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Tariffs are foolish and clearly a gvmt overreach. If the

Posted on: July 25, 2018 at 08:48:55 CT
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current tariffs end up being more than just part of a tactic in a goal to drop tariffs all around, the criticisms will be fully justified and accurate.

Trump has stated and the official whitehouse statements are that this is tactical.

It's fair to question the veracity of those statements; however, I don't see the logic as to what Trump or his administration gains in any sense by implementing tariffs for the long-term simply as a reflection of what they think is "sound policy".

The future will tell us what the game plan is.

I'm not going to debate the morality of a nation state using force against another nations state which is already using force against it if the effort is to get to a standdown.

Trump asked the EU to reduce tariffs. Offered to have a zero tariff agreement and they rejected it.

Other nations have similarly responded.

I don't agree that tariffs on US goods only hurts the country applying the tariffs.
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Trump's Road to Socialism - ummmm MU - 7/25 08:38:05
     This is so typical. The left accuses the right of being - hokie VT - 7/25 09:19:27
          Correct you leftists have NOTHING - JG A - 7/25 12:44:42
          You're an uneducated, uninformed idiot (nm) - pickle MU - 7/25 09:33:07
               Why does this post make you so angry? (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 7/25 11:22:41
          SS is about as socialist a program as you can create. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 7/25 09:26:56
               So only socialists support it? Are you as dumb as the - hokie VT - 7/25 09:29:11
                    no, but anyone supporting it is supporting a socialistic - 90Tiger MU - 7/25 09:30:06
                         I have posted here before that the board idiots, i hadn't - hokie VT - 7/25 09:41:43
                              you don't know anything about capitalism, socialism, - pickle MU - 7/25 09:54:14
                              why is the label important to you?(nm) - cnk ATL - 7/25 09:47:06
                                   Labels are important. Despite what the pansy left and - hokie VT - 7/25 09:52:12
                                        I guess my point is this - cnk ATL - 7/25 09:59:53
                              you need to re-read my post (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 7/25 09:42:09
               Only because of how it started and also what - GA Tiger MU - 7/25 09:29:08
          If you are in favor of social security, then you are in - ummmm MU - 7/25 09:26:12
               I just disputed it.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 7/25 09:29:42
                    You did? (nm) - pickle MU - 7/25 09:36:48
                    Will you allow opt outs with your plan? (nm) - ummmm MU - 7/25 09:31:21
                         Probably. The only reason I would - GA Tiger MU - 7/25 09:36:47
                              What mechanisms would be used when enough people - cnk ATL - 7/25 09:41:03
                                   Shouldn't matter, if the total opting in was - GA Tiger MU - 7/25 12:20:26
                              If you allow opt outs, then it is nothing like social - ummmm MU - 7/25 09:39:47
                                   There is no subsidy as I outlined my solutions. - GA Tiger MU - 7/25 09:43:15
                                        I couldn't tell from your prior post if you were defending - ummmm MU - 7/25 09:48:08
                    He meant to say it can't be disputed rationally. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 7/25 09:30:39
          lol. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 7/25 09:24:34
               i know, right?(nm) - dangertim MU - 7/25 09:26:13
     Trump's handling of this is probably his biggest mistake - GA Tiger MU - 7/25 09:17:01
     NAFTA picked winners and losers - Roberts MU - 7/25 09:08:01
          Your last sentence could be reversed and posed as: - ummmm MU - 7/25 09:13:21
     Oh my. Libtards are so short sighted - TigerFan92 MU - 7/25 09:01:14
          True, they would elect a washed up reality TV star - TheShoe STL - 7/25 09:08:43
               Precisely why I posted this: - 90Tiger MU - 7/25 09:26:14
               Sounds similar to the credentials of many politicians. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 7/25 09:26:02
               That demonstrates what monumental fruitcakes you.have - Mizzou Lou KC - 7/25 09:24:57
               They did, If they would have had a better - tcat UMKC - 7/25 09:17:30
     Tariffs are foolish and clearly a gvmt overreach. If the - 90Tiger MU - 7/25 08:48:55
          RE: Tariffs are foolish and clearly a gvmt overreach. If the - meatiger MU - 7/25 09:39:47
               How are they a Goverment overreach?(nm) - tcat UMKC - 7/25 09:45:48
          I would like to know what EU and Canada tariffs for us are, - GA Tiger MU - 7/25 09:18:27
               Here are Canadian import fees - cnk ATL - 7/25 09:23:28
          The problem with instituting any govt interference with - ummmm MU - 7/25 09:10:34
               Has anyone ever went that far in the red before - tcat UMKC - 7/25 09:26:28
               I doubt you will get little.disagreement there - Mizzou Lou KC - 7/25 09:16:42
                    Why wait for the EU to agree to stop taxing its citizens? - ummmm MU - 7/25 09:23:34
                         I think the thing your missing in all of this is not - tcat UMKC - 7/25 09:33:31
                              I really don't think I'm the one missing that. - ummmm MU - 7/25 09:37:31
                                   Then I stand corrected - tcat UMKC - 7/25 09:44:42
                                        It does not describe the current customary framework of the - ummmm MU - 7/25 09:51:52
                         Perhaps that works, it can.still be attempted, although i - Mizzou Lou KC - 7/25 09:27:31
                              Speaking personally, the president's ego/image is pretty low - ummmm MU - 7/25 09:34:07
                                   I get that, I'm just answering your question. It might work - Mizzou Lou KC - 7/25 09:39:09
               I don't disagree and hence my position. I just don't see - 90Tiger MU - 7/25 09:15:52
                    doing nothing at all - meatiger MU - 7/25 09:43:02
                    I don't like that US goods have tariffs slapped on them - ummmm MU - 7/25 09:24:55
                         It's indefensible, but look at the "conservatives" trying (nm) - pickle MU - 7/25 09:38:23
                         Why do you keep implying that I (or anyone) thinks the - 90Tiger MU - 7/25 09:29:39
                              "Imposed as a tactic" as a move toward free markets - pickle MU - 7/25 09:40:27
                              Because I'm told that the new tariffs are aimed at - ummmm MU - 7/25 09:35:24
                                   I see, you are having trouble grasping the concept of - 90Tiger MU - 7/25 09:44:23
                                        if force is involved, then it's not negotiation (nm) - pickle MU - 7/25 09:55:27
                                        Force in negotiation sounds like an oxymoron to me. - ummmm MU - 7/25 09:49:58
                                             because it is. (nm) - pickle MU - 7/25 09:55:43
                                             well, if you don't think leverage (you call it force) isn't - 90Tiger MU - 7/25 09:54:21
                                                  That's not analogous. - ummmm MU - 7/25 10:05:04
                                                  RE: well, if you don't think leverage (you call it force) isn't - meatiger MU - 7/25 09:56:54
                                                  Not analogous (nm) - pickle MU - 7/25 09:56:13
                                        RE: I see, you are having trouble grasping the concept of - meatiger MU - 7/25 09:49:48
                                   Straw man - Mizzou Lou KC - 7/25 09:41:38
                                        Eliminate or minimize, it doesn't matter. - ummmm MU - 7/25 09:43:07
          the average tariff on US goods - Ferg STL - 7/25 09:00:49
               Then that is NOT worth quibbling over. Trump - GA Tiger MU - 7/25 09:21:21
               Then it still isn't (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 7/25 09:03:03
                    Even at 2% and 3%, we are talking about a whole lot - ummmm MU - 7/25 09:11:38
                         I agree, but would like to know how much higher it is when - 90Tiger MU - 7/25 09:13:48
                    Really? Tariffs are going up on both sides. - Ferg STL - 7/25 09:05:54
                         "Tariffs.are foolish and clearly a govt overreach..." - Mizzou Lou KC - 7/25 09:13:44
                              That's ridiculous and doesn't hold water (nm) - pickle MU - 7/25 09:36:17
                              why is it so simple for folks to simply disregard this when - 90Tiger MU - 7/25 09:14:35
                                   I guess TDS is more virulent than rotavirus - Mizzou Lou KC - 7/25 09:21:47
                         you just told me the average tariff levels are so low as to - 90Tiger MU - 7/25 09:07:19
     nationalism and racism open the door for fascism - pickle MU - 7/25 08:42:09
          From april 2013 - you claim the US was under fascist rule - 90Tiger MU - 7/25 09:10:42
          So America is currently under a fascist dictatorship? - Mizzou Lou KC - 7/25 09:02:06
               I didn't say dictatorship, so no - pickle MU - 7/25 09:34:53
                    lol, ok spanky (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 7/25 09:45:09
          So are we (the US) on the road to - tcat UMKC - 7/25 08:59:44
          such hyperbole (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 7/25 08:49:17
               you've chosen to put your head in the sand - pickle MU - 7/25 08:55:12
                    No, pickle, you've chosen hyperbole and rhetoric at - 90Tiger MU - 7/25 09:03:34




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