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To some extent. I agree that context matters, hence last yr

Posted on: June 26, 2018 at 15:35:01 CT
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being a 20 win season can be looked at as a success. Not counting the Kim years 2007-08 was the last time MU didn't win at least 23 games and several of those 23 win seasons were looked validly at as rather disappointing. In any normal era of MU basketball last year would have been viewed as rather underwhelming and disappointing.

I don't think there is any scenario so disastrous that 9th place could be viewed as good. Both NCAA tourney bid and top half of conference finish are baseline requirements in my opinion, and even then some seasons that meet both those criteria are arguably not good either.
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Random ranking picks MU to finish 9th in SEC - FIJItiger MU - 6/26 12:15:49
     RE: Random ranking picks MU to finish 9th in SEC - Oldertiger22 MU - 6/27 06:46:29
     DISRESPECT!!! - smoke MU - 6/26 22:07:12
     watson would be the only impact recruit - Kazoo MU - 6/26 18:07:56
          I think Santos will be an instant impact - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/27 08:14:44
          THIS year yeah, but I like the look of this squad over time(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 6/26 21:33:42
               same here; I like the new class and roster as a whole (nm) - zounami MU - 6/27 01:56:58
     more fiji - dttiger MU - 6/26 17:05:23
     I wonder what would have been predicted last year - longtimereader MU - 6/26 16:09:35
          I thought about that as well; probably very similar to the - zounami MU - 6/26 18:28:58
     The gap between 3rd-4th place and 9th-10th place in the - zounami MU - 6/26 15:43:06
     RE: Random ranking picks MU to finish 9th in SEC - MUTGR MU - 6/26 15:12:47
     How do they define - alstl MU - 6/26 14:19:30
     RE: Random ranking picks MU to finish 9th in SEC - Big Ray 2 USA - 6/26 12:47:53
          A few years ago we weren't trying - FIJItiger MU - 6/26 12:50:44
               Your obsessive schtick is pitiful. I hope you begin - MNTIGER MU - 6/26 19:21:50
               Where do you think they will finish? - Mizzou_Fanatic12 MU - 6/26 12:57:59
                    Fair thinking here. I tend to agree that we project to - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 6/26 13:40:50
                         9th isn't bottom four - Mizzou_Fanatic12 MU - 6/26 13:58:57
                              Oops - you're right. For some reason, I had in mind that the - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 6/26 15:33:24
                         I don't think anyone would, even the team - Mormad MU - 6/26 13:49:13
                    Don't know, too much turnover - FIJItiger MU - 6/26 13:02:57
                         I guess I don't get how you can - Mizzou_Fanatic12 MU - 6/26 13:05:29
                              To answer, in the history of MU basketball since - FIJItiger MU - 6/26 15:24:16
                                   I mean it is a baseline requirement all things being equal - Mizzou_Fanatic12 MU - 6/26 15:30:19
                                        To some extent. I agree that context matters, hence last yr - FIJItiger MU - 6/26 15:35:01
                                             But last year you could flip one win and loss and - Mizzou_Fanatic12 MU - 6/26 15:36:03
                                                  No, it wouldn't surpass the baseline requirements - FIJItiger MU - 6/26 15:37:42
                                                       But don't see you why your baseline is silly then? - Mizzou_Fanatic12 MU - 6/26 15:40:46
                                                            No, I don't see it. Sounds like to me you are - FIJItiger MU - 6/26 15:55:31
                                                                 I would wager a plurality of Mizzou fans would call last - Mizzou_Fanatic12 MU - 6/26 17:08:53
                                                                      We tied for 4th in SEC and earned an at large NCAA bid - FIJItiger MU - 6/26 17:15:59
                                                                           RE: We tied for 4th in SEC and earned an at large NCAA bid - Mizzou_Fanatic12 MU - 6/26 17:18:53
                                                                                Agree, it wouldn't have been a good year then (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 6/26 17:23:21
                                                                                     That's just silly then(nm) - Mizzou_Fanatic12 MU - 6/26 17:24:50
                                                                                          Losing 1 more game would have only dropped us into - FIJItiger MU - 6/26 17:30:24
                                                                                               Fine flip two games the point remains - Mizzou_Fanatic12 MU - 6/26 18:28:34
                                                                                                    I would hope very few fans would consider that good(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 6/26 19:14:56
                                                                 Since the B12 and even dropping the KA years Mizzou has - sprintcar STL - 6/26 16:00:54
                                                                      Agreed, alot of not good years (which is different than bad) - FIJItiger MU - 6/26 16:11:50
                                        Also say last year - Mizzou_Fanatic12 MU - 6/26 15:32:24
                                             I wouldn't. I agree, that would not have been a good year(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 6/26 15:36:24
                                                  That's just a ridiculous standard then - Mizzou_Fanatic12 MU - 6/26 17:10:40
                                                       Not if the conventional standards being applied are - FIJItiger MU - 6/26 17:13:57
                                                            But the conventional standard for a normal season v. a - Mizzou_Fanatic12 MU - 6/26 17:15:57
                                                                 Like I fully agree with your standard or more expectation - Mizzou_Fanatic12 MU - 6/26 17:17:19
                                                                      I'm not suggesting Cuonzo should be fired or that - FIJItiger MU - 6/26 17:22:22
                                                                 Agree to disagree (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 6/26 17:16:42
                              He's playing word games. (nm) - Uncle John MU - 6/26 14:12:13
                              He seems to believe that Mizzou should finish better - Mormad MU - 6/26 13:10:49
     I agree with his assessment. Right now we have 2 proven - StaleyTiger MU - 6/26 12:34:49
          Without really studying the big picture, I'd guess anywhere - alwaysright MU - 6/26 15:15:55
          Considering Tilmon and Porter will be two of the better - Uncle John MU - 6/26 12:42:20
               It won't do much good if the guards aren't capable - StaleyTiger MU - 6/26 13:01:23
                    Jontay will have the ball in his hands a lot - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/26 14:00:06
                         and two guys on him - catbirdseat MU - 6/26 14:35:14
                              Jontay is too good of a passer to not make the easy - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/26 14:58:41
                    That's a good comparison. Without Kash last year, we would - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 6/26 13:43:26
                    Georgia defense wasn't near as good as what Mizzou will - Uncle John MU - 6/26 13:03:45
                         Did you even watch the SEC last year? Georgia was one of the - NWMizzouFan MU - 6/26 13:37:55
                              Georgia was 7-11 in conference. I saw them play plenty of - Uncle John MU - 6/26 14:18:58
                         Georgia's defense was the 2nd best in the conference last - StaleyTiger MU - 6/26 13:28:55
                              That's right.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 6/26 14:10:45
                              if you adjust for pace of play Georgia was 6th in the - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/26 14:02:33
                                   Well duh.... A huge part of good defense is imposing your - tgr MU - 6/26 14:05:36
                                        so they weren’t really the 2nd best defense in the SEC - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/26 14:20:36
                                        Duh, that's why they weren't that good.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 6/26 14:10:09
                                             So do you think Virginia isn't good at defense? - tgr MU - 6/26 14:16:42
                                                  No Virginia is still top 5 in the country even after - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/26 14:21:57
                                                       But even you have to admit it's pretty silly to adjust - tgr MU - 6/26 14:32:12
                                                            I generally look at points per possession given up - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/26 14:39:43
                                                  Georgia was 7-11 in conference. That's enough to tell me - Uncle John MU - 6/26 14:20:04
                                                       They had an amazing big man and not much else. - tgr MU - 6/26 14:28:23
                                                            He was a decent player, but wasn't drafted and at 6'8" isn't - Uncle John MU - 6/26 15:13:04
     i don't understand this review ... - tmcats KSU - 6/26 12:27:13
          RE: i don't understand this review ... - Phoggy08 KU - 6/26 14:27:55
               RE: i don't understand this review ... - Uncle John MU - 6/26 15:16:19
                    Richards, Montgomery and Washington - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/26 15:31:55
     Better ranked 9th & finish 2nd than ranked 2nd & finish 9th - MU-TULSA MU - 6/26 12:26:17
     whew pretty big indictment of Cuanzo's coaching ability - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 6/26 12:25:20
          It's more embarrassing that a troll like you hasn't been - Cosmo MU - 6/26 18:15:34
          Are you related to Bozo the Clown? I'm guessing yes...(nm) - tigersfan MU - 6/26 14:13:01
          Outside of his first year, Kim was pretty consistent at - BigSlickTiger MU - 6/26 12:36:11
               correct, but he was dealing with a cratered dumpster fire - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 6/26 12:43:49
                    RE: correct, but he was dealing with a cratered dumpster fire - Jmill88 MU - 6/26 13:36:43
                    Your timeline is off - FIJItiger MU - 6/26 12:46:36
          Pump those negative - catbirdseat MU - 6/26 12:27:35
               Well.....a trolls gotta do what a trolls gotta do....(nm) - tigersfan MU - 6/26 14:14:48
     Mizzou is expected to be a bubble team - wu-tangtiger MU - 6/26 12:20:10




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