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Based on Trump's National Security Adviser saying it is??
Posted on: May 10, 2018 at 14:33:48 CT
MrBlueSky
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First few minutes of podcast is a former CIA agent
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TheWildcat
STL
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5/10 13:50:47
If we could get a better deal that would stop them from
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Badird
MU
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5/10 13:54:35
leverage. And groupthink isn't a good barometer for what's
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90Tiger
MU
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5/10 14:01:33
The best interests of the world is a non nuclear Iran
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MrBlueSky
MU
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5/10 14:06:56
you have a massive premise here (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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5/10 14:13:58
Also, Merkel agrees.
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TheWildcat
STL
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5/10 14:08:34
She seems to be discussing two things there.
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StaleyTiger
MU
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5/10 14:23:44
Agreed (nm)
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MrBlueSky
MU
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5/10 14:41:51
I am assuming there will be further negotiations in the
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TheWildcat
STL
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5/10 14:07:56
And adding the sanctions again, as it has shown previously
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MrBlueSky
MU
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5/10 14:10:08
it helped Obama get Iran to the table, per you (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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5/10 14:22:27
Removing sanctions did (nm)
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MrBlueSky
MU
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5/10 14:25:38
Werent the removal of sanctions part of the deal, not
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hefeweizen
MU
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5/10 14:27:53
Excuse me, the offer of removing sanctions
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MrBlueSky
MU
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5/10 14:30:58
oh, so sanctions did indeed bring them to the table. LOL(nm)
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hefeweizen
MU
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5/10 14:32:09
So yeah, by all means, slap harsh and economically
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MrBlueSky
MU
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5/10 14:39:40
It's awesome how you change tack here when
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90Tiger
MU
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5/10 14:52:01
I've been consistent. Sanctions are going to turn a
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MrBlueSky
MU
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5/10 14:56:13
How about a young generation of Russians
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Sal
KC
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5/10 14:59:17
Luckily, the entire developed world isn't sanctioning
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MrBlueSky
MU
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5/10 15:21:25
Is 'the whole world' sanctioning Iran?
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Spanky
KU
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5/10 17:11:28
There are U.S. sanctions on Russia
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Sal
KC
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5/10 15:29:08
BUT FRANCE DIDN'T JOIN IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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5/10 15:42:45
I love that people think other countries
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Sal
KC
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5/10 15:43:53
well the entire developed world sanctioned Iran and it
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90Tiger
MU
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5/10 15:26:12
My point was Sal's question was irrelevant
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MrBlueSky
MU
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5/10 15:27:25
lol, ouch(nm)
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hefeweizen
MU
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5/10 15:13:14
But Trump sucks so nah nah nabooboo(nm)
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hefeweizen
MU
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5/10 14:54:21
turn that around - the existence of sanctions brought Iran
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90Tiger
MU
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5/10 14:27:41
whoops (nm)
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Sal
KC
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5/10 14:28:58
Why don't you apply this same logic with sanctions
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Sal
KC
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5/10 14:27:32
You love sanctions (nm)
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Sal
KC
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5/10 14:20:03
Obama should have gotten it right the first go around,
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TheWildcat
STL
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5/10 14:10:34
Getting Iran to the negotiating table in the first place was
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MrBlueSky
MU
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5/10 14:12:38
translation: Sanctions got Iran to the table
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90Tiger
MU
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5/10 14:14:54
Baker says "high likelihood they are not living up to their
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TheWildcat
STL
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5/10 14:16:12
High likelihood according to a former CIA agent
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MrBlueSky
MU
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5/10 14:19:12
you need to stop equating "compliance" with "no longer
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90Tiger
MU
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5/10 14:21:55
I don't know how anyone could agree to a deal where
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TheWildcat
STL
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5/10 14:23:13
it was a lot of political gain and feel good (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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5/10 14:23:53
Uhh, false. He talks about his relationship with Haspel
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TheWildcat
STL
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5/10 14:20:11
Again, I said I will watch it. I generally like Rogan's pod
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MrBlueSky
MU
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5/10 14:23:44
If Trump starts war with Iran, 75% of his base is gone,
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TheWildcat
STL
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5/10 14:28:03
Nationalist, not isolationist (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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5/10 14:29:01
True, I also shouldn't have said in history...just the last
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TheWildcat
STL
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5/10 14:33:27
that's a massive and utterly unfounded jump you're making
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90Tiger
MU
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5/10 14:25:33
I made no comments about Trump's intentions because
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MrBlueSky
MU
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5/10 14:27:31
what's this sentence mean then?
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90Tiger
MU
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5/10 14:28:27
Prediction.
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MrBlueSky
MU
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5/10 14:29:46
uh....based on??? (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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5/10 14:30:38
Based on Trump's National Security Adviser saying it is??
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MrBlueSky
MU
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5/10 14:33:48
Trump sucks and I hate him--Bluesky(nm)
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hefeweizen
MU
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5/10 14:31:26
No, because, as I've said in this thread
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MrBlueSky
MU
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5/10 14:35:51
As does the whole civilized ****ing world and has for nearly
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hefeweizen
MU
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5/10 14:39:55
And we're to thank for the mess to begin with for 40+
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MrBlueSky
MU
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5/10 14:40:53
I guess you are only intolerant of the crazy religious here
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hefeweizen
MU
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5/10 14:46:39
He would certainly be a disgraced jew if he lived in Israel(nm)
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TheWildcat
STL
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5/10 14:53:20
Hardly, I've been offered to go on birthright several times
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MrBlueSky
MU
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5/10 14:56:36
Israeli's love Trump for this. (nm)
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TheWildcat
STL
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5/10 15:03:02
Well they want to nuke Iran themselves
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MrBlueSky
MU
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5/10 15:05:09
I am?
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MrBlueSky
MU
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5/10 14:50:53
Then you are all for a new deal that demands and
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hefeweizen
MU
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5/10 15:16:18
My point is I believe that is not the end goal for the
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MrBlueSky
MU
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5/10 15:21:57
I think the moon is made of bleu cheese! weeee! (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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5/10 15:28:39
Watch the podcast. The "deal" was not stopping Iran
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TheWildcat
STL
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5/10 14:14:37
I'll watch it this evening, it's bookmarked.
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MrBlueSky
MU
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5/10 14:17:54
You not knowing what the US end game or plan is isn't
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90Tiger
MU
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5/10 14:20:24
They open up at the beginning, then move directly to 31:40
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TheWildcat
STL
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5/10 14:18:27
Per this guy, we were never even allowed to inspect very
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TheWildcat
STL
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5/10 13:56:07
that's in the agreement, correct (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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5/10 14:01:48
It was my understanding that the IAEA was able to inspect
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Badird
MU
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5/10 13:58:26
not true (nm)
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Sal
KC
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5/10 14:15:57
True
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tgr
MU
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5/10 14:09:23
False
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90Tiger
MU
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5/10 14:16:57
Lol so 24 days after the deal? (nm)
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TheWildcat
STL
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5/10 14:11:23
RE: Lol so 24 days after the deal? (nm)
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tgr
MU
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5/10 14:15:28
Start watching at 31:40
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TheWildcat
STL
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5/10 14:19:15
Read the actual document:
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tgr
MU
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5/10 14:34:42
RE: Read the actual document:
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90Tiger
MU
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5/10 15:31:04
false (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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5/10 14:01:59
He gives a specific military site, which he says is the
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TheWildcat
STL
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5/10 14:00:33
Both France and Germany have said they are going to try
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tgr
MU
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5/10 14:05:26
I guess they feel as though it's inadequate, it is better
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TheWildcat
STL
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5/10 14:06:44
BTW, it's all available online.
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TheWildcat
STL
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5/10 14:07:17