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Obama should have gotten it right the first go around,

Posted on: May 10, 2018 at 14:10:34 CT
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I suppose. Of course as this CIA agent says Iran was only going to allow what they wanted to allow in the deal.

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First few minutes of podcast is a former CIA agent - TheWildcat STL - 5/10 13:50:47
     If we could get a better deal that would stop them from - Badird MU - 5/10 13:54:35
          leverage. And groupthink isn't a good barometer for what's - 90Tiger MU - 5/10 14:01:33
               The best interests of the world is a non nuclear Iran - MrBlueSky MU - 5/10 14:06:56
                    you have a massive premise here (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 5/10 14:13:58
                    Also, Merkel agrees. - TheWildcat STL - 5/10 14:08:34
                         She seems to be discussing two things there. - StaleyTiger MU - 5/10 14:23:44
                              Agreed (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 5/10 14:41:51
                    I am assuming there will be further negotiations in the - TheWildcat STL - 5/10 14:07:56
                         And adding the sanctions again, as it has shown previously - MrBlueSky MU - 5/10 14:10:08
                              it helped Obama get Iran to the table, per you (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 5/10 14:22:27
                                   Removing sanctions did (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 5/10 14:25:38
                                        Werent the removal of sanctions part of the deal, not - hefeweizen MU - 5/10 14:27:53
                                             Excuse me, the offer of removing sanctions - MrBlueSky MU - 5/10 14:30:58
                                                  oh, so sanctions did indeed bring them to the table. LOL(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 5/10 14:32:09
                                                       So yeah, by all means, slap harsh and economically - MrBlueSky MU - 5/10 14:39:40
                                                            It's awesome how you change tack here when - 90Tiger MU - 5/10 14:52:01
                                                                 I've been consistent. Sanctions are going to turn a - MrBlueSky MU - 5/10 14:56:13
                                                                      How about a young generation of Russians - Sal KC - 5/10 14:59:17
                                                                           Luckily, the entire developed world isn't sanctioning - MrBlueSky MU - 5/10 15:21:25
                                                                                Is 'the whole world' sanctioning Iran? - Spanky KU - 5/10 17:11:28
                                                                                There are U.S. sanctions on Russia - Sal KC - 5/10 15:29:08
                                                                                     BUT FRANCE DIDN'T JOIN IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 5/10 15:42:45
                                                                                          I love that people think other countries - Sal KC - 5/10 15:43:53
                                                                                well the entire developed world sanctioned Iran and it - 90Tiger MU - 5/10 15:26:12
                                                                                     My point was Sal's question was irrelevant - MrBlueSky MU - 5/10 15:27:25
                                                                           lol, ouch(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 5/10 15:13:14
                                                                 But Trump sucks so nah nah nabooboo(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 5/10 14:54:21
                                        turn that around - the existence of sanctions brought Iran - 90Tiger MU - 5/10 14:27:41
                                             whoops (nm) - Sal KC - 5/10 14:28:58
                                        Why don't you apply this same logic with sanctions - Sal KC - 5/10 14:27:32
                              You love sanctions (nm) - Sal KC - 5/10 14:20:03
                              Obama should have gotten it right the first go around, - TheWildcat STL - 5/10 14:10:34
                                   Getting Iran to the negotiating table in the first place was - MrBlueSky MU - 5/10 14:12:38
                                        translation: Sanctions got Iran to the table - 90Tiger MU - 5/10 14:14:54
                                             Baker says "high likelihood they are not living up to their - TheWildcat STL - 5/10 14:16:12
                                                  High likelihood according to a former CIA agent - MrBlueSky MU - 5/10 14:19:12
                                                       you need to stop equating "compliance" with "no longer - 90Tiger MU - 5/10 14:21:55
                                                            I don't know how anyone could agree to a deal where - TheWildcat STL - 5/10 14:23:13
                                                                 it was a lot of political gain and feel good (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 5/10 14:23:53
                                                       Uhh, false. He talks about his relationship with Haspel - TheWildcat STL - 5/10 14:20:11
                                                            Again, I said I will watch it. I generally like Rogan's pod - MrBlueSky MU - 5/10 14:23:44
                                                                 If Trump starts war with Iran, 75% of his base is gone, - TheWildcat STL - 5/10 14:28:03
                                                                      Nationalist, not isolationist (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 5/10 14:29:01
                                                                           True, I also shouldn't have said in history...just the last - TheWildcat STL - 5/10 14:33:27
                                                                 that's a massive and utterly unfounded jump you're making - 90Tiger MU - 5/10 14:25:33
                                                                      I made no comments about Trump's intentions because - MrBlueSky MU - 5/10 14:27:31
                                                                           what's this sentence mean then? - 90Tiger MU - 5/10 14:28:27
                                                                                Prediction. - MrBlueSky MU - 5/10 14:29:46
                                                                                     uh....based on??? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 5/10 14:30:38
                                                                                          Based on Trump's National Security Adviser saying it is?? - MrBlueSky MU - 5/10 14:33:48
                                                                                          Trump sucks and I hate him--Bluesky(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 5/10 14:31:26
                                                                                               No, because, as I've said in this thread - MrBlueSky MU - 5/10 14:35:51
                                                                                                    As does the whole civilized ****ing world and has for nearly - hefeweizen MU - 5/10 14:39:55
                                                                                                         And we're to thank for the mess to begin with for 40+ - MrBlueSky MU - 5/10 14:40:53
                                                                                                              I guess you are only intolerant of the crazy religious here - hefeweizen MU - 5/10 14:46:39
                                                                                                                   He would certainly be a disgraced jew if he lived in Israel(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 5/10 14:53:20
                                                                                                                        Hardly, I've been offered to go on birthright several times - MrBlueSky MU - 5/10 14:56:36
                                                                                                                             Israeli's love Trump for this. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 5/10 15:03:02
                                                                                                                                  Well they want to nuke Iran themselves - MrBlueSky MU - 5/10 15:05:09
                                                                                                                   I am? - MrBlueSky MU - 5/10 14:50:53
                                                                                                                        Then you are all for a new deal that demands and - hefeweizen MU - 5/10 15:16:18
                                                                                                                             My point is I believe that is not the end goal for the - MrBlueSky MU - 5/10 15:21:57
                                                                                                                                  I think the moon is made of bleu cheese! weeee! (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 5/10 15:28:39
                                        Watch the podcast. The "deal" was not stopping Iran - TheWildcat STL - 5/10 14:14:37
                                             I'll watch it this evening, it's bookmarked. - MrBlueSky MU - 5/10 14:17:54
                                                  You not knowing what the US end game or plan is isn't - 90Tiger MU - 5/10 14:20:24
                                                  They open up at the beginning, then move directly to 31:40 - TheWildcat STL - 5/10 14:18:27
          Per this guy, we were never even allowed to inspect very - TheWildcat STL - 5/10 13:56:07
               that's in the agreement, correct (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 5/10 14:01:48
               It was my understanding that the IAEA was able to inspect - Badird MU - 5/10 13:58:26
                    not true (nm) - Sal KC - 5/10 14:15:57
                    True - tgr MU - 5/10 14:09:23
                         False - 90Tiger MU - 5/10 14:16:57
                         Lol so 24 days after the deal? (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 5/10 14:11:23
                              RE: Lol so 24 days after the deal? (nm) - tgr MU - 5/10 14:15:28
                                   Start watching at 31:40 - TheWildcat STL - 5/10 14:19:15
                                        Read the actual document: - tgr MU - 5/10 14:34:42
                                             RE: Read the actual document: - 90Tiger MU - 5/10 15:31:04
                    false (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 5/10 14:01:59
                    He gives a specific military site, which he says is the - TheWildcat STL - 5/10 14:00:33
                         Both France and Germany have said they are going to try - tgr MU - 5/10 14:05:26
                              I guess they feel as though it's inadequate, it is better - TheWildcat STL - 5/10 14:06:44
                                   BTW, it's all available online. - TheWildcat STL - 5/10 14:07:17




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