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knowing what you know about Cruz, IF he had been charged

Posted on: February 26, 2018 at 11:24:12 CT
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would you have fought a felony conviction with suspended sentence? I think you would see the wisdom in keeping a gun out of someone's hands with THAT history.
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You gun nuts crack me up... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:07:46
     I use my AR-15 for lots of things - Roberts MU - 2/26 11:10:18
          I bet it gets you to the front of the line a lot too(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 11:26:00
          Haven't you ever watched an episode of NYPD Blue? - Tigrrrr! MU - 2/26 11:23:05
               My AR15 isn't touching the door - Roberts MU - 2/26 11:30:35
     RE: You gun nuts crack me up... - MOCO SON MU - 2/26 10:37:37
     The AR-15 is used for target practice almost exclusively - Spanky KU - 2/26 10:31:43
          Good. Get a nintendo - Rabbit Test MU - 2/26 10:37:39
               Why? - Spanky KU - 2/26 10:41:40
               RE: Good. Get a nintendo - MOCO SON MU - 2/26 10:41:14
     Automatic Weapons are highly regulated. - Rabbit Test MU - 2/26 10:30:04
          nm - Spanky KU - 2/26 10:46:07
          RE: Automatic Weapons are highly regulated. - MOCO SON MU - 2/26 10:41:42
          As recently as 14 years ago they were illlegal... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:31:42
               No.. you actually don't have proof that it works - Spanky KU - 2/26 10:49:00
     do you really believe if AR15 weren't available that - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:20:53
          He could have become a bus driver and - Rabbit Test MU - 2/26 10:31:29
               yeah, that banning AR15 would NOT have stopped him - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:51:23
          Okay, so he brings a shotgun and kills 5 people... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:27:51
               or he builds bombs and kills 117(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:50:47
                    Is that a current problem? - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:52:07
                         I've made my point, the gun wasn't the problem - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:55:44
                              Rest assured, you've struggled to make any points... - Gyro MU - 2/26 11:03:56
               so ban shotguns and get it down to 1 or 2, right? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 10:48:13
                    and ban knives to get that to zero! See, problem - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 10:48:43
               and you laugh at calls for banning knives??? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 10:47:54
               but I guess those 5 (or maybe 10) he would have killed - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:33:56
                    How's that exactly?(nm) - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:35:06
                         you just said 5 deaths would have been ok(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:36:27
                              5 dead is better than 17. - Rabbit Test MU - 2/26 10:38:17
                                   LOL, yes(nm) - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:39:12
                                        so ban shotguns to get it to 1 or 2 and then ban knives - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 10:49:18
                                             Who said that? If there's a rash of school shootings... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:50:51
                                                  I'm using your logic, gyro. We should ban anything to reduc - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 10:53:00
                                                       I'm following current and past laws and regulations... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:54:24
                                                            LOL, is the constitution/BOR not current and past law??? - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 11:07:57
          He should not have been able to legally buy a gun - MrBlueSky MU - 2/26 10:23:46
               he was able to because existing laws weren't enforced - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:24:50
                    Which laws were not enforced? - MrBlueSky MU - 2/26 10:34:38
                         assult - terroristic threatening(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:35:58
                              As a minor? - MrBlueSky MU - 2/26 10:36:47
                                   he made threats as an adult(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:49:08
                    Existing laws? Which ones?(nm) - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:28:08
                         if he had been properly charged with assult for - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:30:49
                              Oh really? So young kid recently dealing with the death... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:33:12
                                   I'm sure he would have, but still guilty of a felony - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:34:53
                                        No, not at his age and not based... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:36:27
                                             you don't know that, recent events included over a dozen - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:54:03
                                                  Yeah, again, since you don't really know how things... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:56:27
                                                       nothing "typical" about Cruz, Autistic with a history of - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 11:09:36
                                                            You did all that for nothing... - Gyro MU - 2/26 11:11:53
                                                                 so you have represented a 19 yo autistic adult who had made - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 11:18:20
                                                                      You guys love the absolutes...no I've represented people... - Gyro MU - 2/26 11:20:06
                                                                           knowing what you know about Cruz, IF he had been charged - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 11:24:12
                                                                                His case in reality would not stick out at all... - Gyro MU - 2/26 11:30:29
                                                                                     I would hope that one of those people that had reported - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 11:46:48
                              Not if it occurred when he was a minor (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 2/26 10:32:24
                                   he wasn't(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 11:18:32
               that's a different argument - blake1771 KC - 2/26 10:24:14
                    It's not. That has been my argument all along - MrBlueSky MU - 2/26 10:30:29
     I know this is one of the hardest things for you to do, but - ummmm MU - 2/26 10:18:53
     Well regulated militia - Silas MU - 2/26 10:18:01
          Does not mean what you think it does.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 2/26 10:28:00
     I'm a "rights nut", not a gun nut. "utility" is a red herri - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 10:14:53
          I'm a dictator by calling for the ban of an AR-15? - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:17:05
               any response other than agreement will result in - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 10:41:05
                    Or you could be clearly wrong... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:53:00
               if Trump did it, you'd call him a fascist, without question. - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 10:25:29
                    I'd invite Trump to do it and would support him... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:27:12
                         which proves you are without principle and a hypocrite - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 10:50:32
                              Ha, yeah there's not a wit of logic there... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:51:39
                                   of course there is, you support gvmt infringing on - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 10:53:56
                                        No, and I'll pretend you don't know this but you do... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:58:31
                                             i've brought up a single concept - Rights and the gvmt's - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 11:39:51
                                                  You're a fool...if you think that rights are unlimited... - Gyro MU - 2/26 11:56:47
                                                       rights are unlimited (nm) - pickle MU - 2/26 13:21:00
               you're a totalitarian - pickle MU - 2/26 10:18:20
                    LOL, what a Nancy you are... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:19:33
                         You're the one scared of black plastic.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 2/26 10:21:31
                              You're confusing fear with empathy for people... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:26:53
                                   you have no empathy or sympathy - pickle MU - 2/26 10:32:29
                                        Any reasonable person (so you're not included there)... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:37:57
                                             I defend the individual and his rights and his life - pickle MU - 2/26 10:43:22
                                   Your faux sympathy is noted since you wish to disarm - TigerMatt MU - 2/26 10:28:54
                                        In his OP, he talks up the success of "speeding free zones" - ummmm MU - 2/26 10:47:47
                                        The defend themselves argument.... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:30:13
                         You supposedly dislike guns - pickle MU - 2/26 10:21:26
                              It's actually quite a simple concept even for someone... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:25:45
                                   There is nothing reasonable about your proposal (nm) - pickle MU - 2/26 10:31:42
                                        You're not really suited for weighing reasonableness though(nm) - Gyro MU - 2/26 11:23:05
     well said(nm) - TheShoe STL - 2/26 10:14:51
     "that's not why we have limits on freedom in this country" - pickle MU - 2/26 10:11:22
          No, we are a nation of laws and we have rule of law... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:13:32
               If there are limits on freedom, then it isn't freedom - pickle MU - 2/26 10:17:20
                    Only an American could make such a ridiculous... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:21:03
                         you simply don't think - pickle MU - 2/26 10:24:46
                         So, your mission to ban a piece of property is imaginary?(nm) - ummmm MU - 2/26 10:23:01
                              This is what happens when you have no principles - pickle MU - 2/26 10:28:13
                                   You're the most emotional guy here... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:29:24
                                        Who owns your life, body, and mind? (nm) - pickle MU - 2/26 10:34:23
               why did the BoR specify rights the feds couldn't infring - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 10:16:13
                    You didn't accompish anything in your post... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:22:31
                         where did the rights originate that the BoR is referring to? - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 10:55:04
                    Boom! (nm) - JeffB MU - 2/26 10:17:19
     You're the gun nut...Us gun owners are sensible people... - DoltfromSTL MU - 2/26 10:10:18
          Was Nikolas Cruz a sensible, legal gun owner? - MrBlueSky MU - 2/26 10:19:46
               Those were all just nuts... - DoltfromSTL MU - 2/26 10:28:21
                    Nuts? Why was it so easy for them to all purchase - MrBlueSky MU - 2/26 10:33:21
               legal only because existing laws were not enforced(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:26:01
                    Which laws? There are no laws that prevent people - MrBlueSky MU - 2/26 10:32:06
                         the ones against assult and terroristic threatening - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 11:57:53
          bad arguement - CRUZ was "sensible"?(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:18:23
               For every person like Cruz I can show you 10,000,000... - DoltfromSTL MU - 2/26 10:30:38
          I'll give that reply an F- ....LOL weak(nm) - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:11:23
               Of course you would...An F- from you means I nailed it! (nm) - DoltfromSTL MU - 2/26 10:31:09
     Wrong.. AR-15 is used for hunting.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 2/26 10:09:31
          hunting people is illegal(nm) - TheShoe STL - 2/26 10:14:21
          What does the man who invented - MrBlueSky MU - 2/26 10:11:41
               Stoner is dead (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 2/26 11:22:00
               irrelevant (nm) - pickle MU - 2/26 10:12:08
                    Yes you are...but we still let you hang out(nm) - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:14:02
                    So says you - MrBlueSky MU - 2/26 10:13:59
                         what he says and thinks are irrelevant - pickle MU - 2/26 10:19:51
                              Ha, only in your world pimple... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:34:10
                                   Gyro: "An AR-15, for non-military use, has one utility... - pickle MU - 2/26 10:47:38
                                        what a thinker he is! (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 11:41:16
                                             Tee Tee 90 IQ...nuff said(nm) - Gyro MU - 2/26 11:57:26
          So we all know that's BS, but for the sake of argument... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:10:52
               At least 5 million Americans own AR-15s. What percentage - TigerMatt MU - 2/26 10:15:07
                    You're looking at the wrong percentage - TheShoe STL - 2/26 10:16:52
                         well 68% use handguns. so not most. - blake1771 KC - 2/26 10:23:12
                         Far smaller than handguns.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 2/26 10:19:51




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