Missouri Tigers Athletics :: Mizzou College Sports :: TigerBoard.com :: If there are limits on freedom, then it isn't freedom

You gun nuts crack me up... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:07:46

I use my AR-15 for lots of things - Roberts MU - 2/26 11:10:18

I bet it gets you to the front of the line a lot too(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 11:26:00

Haven't you ever watched an episode of NYPD Blue? - Tigrrrr! MU

- 2/26 11:23:05

My AR15 isn't touching the door - Roberts MU - 2/26 11:30:35

RE: You gun nuts crack me up... - MOCO SON MU - 2/26 10:37:37

The AR-15 is used for target practice almost exclusively - Spanky KU - 2/26 10:31:43

Good. Get a nintendo - Rabbit Test MU - 2/26 10:37:39

Why? - Spanky KU - 2/26 10:41:40

RE: Good. Get a nintendo - MOCO SON MU - 2/26 10:41:14

Automatic Weapons are highly regulated. - Rabbit Test MU - 2/26 10:30:04

nm - Spanky KU - 2/26 10:46:07

RE: Automatic Weapons are highly regulated. - MOCO SON MU - 2/26 10:41:42

As recently as 14 years ago they were illlegal... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:31:42

No.. you actually don't have proof that it works - Spanky KU - 2/26 10:49:00

do you really believe if AR15 weren't available that - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:20:53

He could have become a bus driver and - Rabbit Test MU - 2/26 10:31:29

yeah, that banning AR15 would NOT have stopped him - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:51:23

Okay, so he brings a shotgun and kills 5 people... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:27:51

or he builds bombs and kills 117(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:50:47

Is that a current problem? - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:52:07

I've made my point, the gun wasn't the problem - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:55:44

Rest assured, you've struggled to make any points... - Gyro MU - 2/26 11:03:56

so ban shotguns and get it down to 1 or 2, right? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 10:48:13

and ban knives to get that to zero! See, problem - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 10:48:43

and you laugh at calls for banning knives??? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 10:47:54

but I guess those 5 (or maybe 10) he would have killed - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:33:56

How's that exactly?(nm) - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:35:06

you just said 5 deaths would have been ok(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:36:27

5 dead is better than 17. - Rabbit Test MU - 2/26 10:38:17

LOL, yes(nm) - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:39:12

so ban shotguns to get it to 1 or 2 and then ban knives - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 10:49:18

Who said that? If there's a rash of school shootings... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:50:51

I'm using your logic, gyro. We should ban anything to reduc - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 10:53:00

I'm following current and past laws and regulations... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:54:24

LOL, is the constitution/BOR not current and past law??? - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 11:07:57

He should not have been able to legally buy a gun - MrBlueSky MU - 2/26 10:23:46

he was able to because existing laws weren't enforced - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:24:50

Which laws were not enforced? - MrBlueSky MU - 2/26 10:34:38

assult - terroristic threatening(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:35:58

As a minor? - MrBlueSky MU - 2/26 10:36:47

he made threats as an adult(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:49:08

Existing laws? Which ones?(nm) - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:28:08

if he had been properly charged with assult for - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:30:49

Oh really? So young kid recently dealing with the death... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:33:12

I'm sure he would have, but still guilty of a felony - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:34:53

No, not at his age and not based... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:36:27

you don't know that, recent events included over a dozen - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:54:03

Yeah, again, since you don't really know how things... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:56:27

nothing "typical" about Cruz, Autistic with a history of - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 11:09:36

You did all that for nothing... - Gyro MU - 2/26 11:11:53

so you have represented a 19 yo autistic adult who had made - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 11:18:20

You guys love the absolutes...no I've represented people... - Gyro MU - 2/26 11:20:06

knowing what you know about Cruz, IF he had been charged - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 11:24:12

His case in reality would not stick out at all... - Gyro MU - 2/26 11:30:29

I would hope that one of those people that had reported - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 11:46:48

Not if it occurred when he was a minor (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 2/26 10:32:24

he wasn't(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 11:18:32

that's a different argument - blake1771 KC - 2/26 10:24:14

It's not. That has been my argument all along - MrBlueSky MU - 2/26 10:30:29

I know this is one of the hardest things for you to do, but - ummmm MU - 2/26 10:18:53

Well regulated militia - Silas MU - 2/26 10:18:01

Does not mean what you think it does.(nm) - TigerMatt MU

- 2/26 10:28:00

I'm a "rights nut", not a gun nut. "utility" is a red herri - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 10:14:53

I'm a dictator by calling for the ban of an AR-15? - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:17:05

any response other than agreement will result in - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 10:41:05

Or you could be clearly wrong... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:53:00

if Trump did it, you'd call him a fascist, without question. - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 10:25:29

I'd invite Trump to do it and would support him... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:27:12

which proves you are without principle and a hypocrite - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 10:50:32

Ha, yeah there's not a wit of logic there... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:51:39

of course there is, you support gvmt infringing on - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 10:53:56

No, and I'll pretend you don't know this but you do... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:58:31

i've brought up a single concept - Rights and the gvmt's - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 11:39:51

You're a fool...if you think that rights are unlimited... - Gyro MU - 2/26 11:56:47

rights are unlimited (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/26 13:21:00

you're a totalitarian - pickle MU

- 2/26 10:18:20

LOL, what a Nancy you are... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:19:33

You're the one scared of black plastic.(nm) - TigerMatt MU

- 2/26 10:21:31

You're confusing fear with empathy for people... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:26:53

you have no empathy or sympathy - pickle MU

- 2/26 10:32:29

Any reasonable person (so you're not included there)... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:37:57

I defend the individual and his rights and his life - pickle MU

- 2/26 10:43:22

Your faux sympathy is noted since you wish to disarm - TigerMatt MU

- 2/26 10:28:54

In his OP, he talks up the success of "speeding free zones" - ummmm MU - 2/26 10:47:47

The defend themselves argument.... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:30:13

You supposedly dislike guns - pickle MU

- 2/26 10:21:26

It's actually quite a simple concept even for someone... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:25:45

There is nothing reasonable about your proposal (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/26 10:31:42

You're not really suited for weighing reasonableness though(nm) - Gyro MU - 2/26 11:23:05

well said(nm) - TheShoe STL - 2/26 10:14:51

"that's not why we have limits on freedom in this country" - pickle MU

- 2/26 10:11:22

No, we are a nation of laws and we have rule of law... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:13:32

If there are limits on freedom, then it isn't freedom - pickle MU

- 2/26 10:17:20

Only an American could make such a ridiculous... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:21:03

you simply don't think - pickle MU

- 2/26 10:24:46

So, your mission to ban a piece of property is imaginary?(nm) - ummmm MU - 2/26 10:23:01

This is what happens when you have no principles - pickle MU

- 2/26 10:28:13

You're the most emotional guy here... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:29:24

Who owns your life, body, and mind? (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/26 10:34:23

why did the BoR specify rights the feds couldn't infring - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 10:16:13

You didn't accompish anything in your post... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:22:31

where did the rights originate that the BoR is referring to? - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 10:55:04

Boom! (nm) - JeffB MU

- 2/26 10:17:19

You're the gun nut...Us gun owners are sensible people... - DoltfromSTL MU - 2/26 10:10:18

Was Nikolas Cruz a sensible, legal gun owner? - MrBlueSky MU - 2/26 10:19:46

Those were all just nuts... - DoltfromSTL MU - 2/26 10:28:21

Nuts? Why was it so easy for them to all purchase - MrBlueSky MU - 2/26 10:33:21

legal only because existing laws were not enforced(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:26:01

Which laws? There are no laws that prevent people - MrBlueSky MU - 2/26 10:32:06

the ones against assult and terroristic threatening - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 11:57:53

bad arguement - CRUZ was "sensible"?(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 2/26 10:18:23

For every person like Cruz I can show you 10,000,000... - DoltfromSTL MU - 2/26 10:30:38

I'll give that reply an F- ....LOL weak(nm) - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:11:23

Of course you would...An F- from you means I nailed it! (nm) - DoltfromSTL MU - 2/26 10:31:09

Wrong.. AR-15 is used for hunting.(nm) - TigerMatt MU

- 2/26 10:09:31

hunting people is illegal(nm) - TheShoe STL - 2/26 10:14:21

What does the man who invented - MrBlueSky MU - 2/26 10:11:41

Stoner is dead (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU

- 2/26 11:22:00

irrelevant (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/26 10:12:08

Yes you are...but we still let you hang out(nm) - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:14:02

So says you - MrBlueSky MU - 2/26 10:13:59

what he says and thinks are irrelevant - pickle MU

- 2/26 10:19:51

Ha, only in your world pimple... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:34:10

Gyro: "An AR-15, for non-military use, has one utility... - pickle MU

- 2/26 10:47:38

what a thinker he is! (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/26 11:41:16

Tee Tee 90 IQ...nuff said(nm) - Gyro MU - 2/26 11:57:26

So we all know that's BS, but for the sake of argument... - Gyro MU - 2/26 10:10:52

At least 5 million Americans own AR-15s. What percentage - TigerMatt MU

- 2/26 10:15:07

You're looking at the wrong percentage - TheShoe STL - 2/26 10:16:52

well 68% use handguns. so not most. - blake1771 KC - 2/26 10:23:12

Far smaller than handguns.(nm) - TigerMatt MU

- 2/26 10:19:51

If there are limits on freedom, then it isn't freedom

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