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But it could, if our society wanted that

Posted on: February 15, 2018 at 09:08:55 CT
FIJItiger MU
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The reason it isn't possible is because of the frequency of deranged responses and defenses of the situation being exhibited in this thread. Right now we care more about pacifying those lunatics. But if the pendulum swung towards caring more about solving the problem, steps would be taken to solve them.

There is nothing fundamentally illogical about a ban and confiscation of killing machines that no longer serve any practical purpose in modern society and continually are demonstrated to be used irresponsibly and for mass harm to our society. That is actually a very logical reactive step to discuss.

Edited by FIJItiger at 09:10:10 on 02/15/18
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Guns are the symptom - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/15 08:33:44
     Accessibility to arms needs to be highly regulated - raskolnikov MU - 2/15 09:47:28
          Unfortunately the Second Amendment would disagree with that - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/15 10:41:50
     No (nm) - pickle MU - 2/15 09:08:59
     But gun crime is way down - El-ahrairah BAMA - 2/15 09:04:54
          More thugs are in prison than in - Ferg STL - 2/15 09:10:58
               Yep - El-ahrairah BAMA - 2/15 09:16:49
          "way" down? down in %, but up in volume due to larger - 90Tiger MU - 2/15 09:10:06
               Well out of 1000 people in 1993 - El-ahrairah BAMA - 2/15 09:13:51
                    Bull shlt - Ferg STL - 2/15 09:14:42
                         RE: Bull shlt - El-ahrairah BAMA - 2/15 09:17:23
                              oh fukc!(nm) - Kazoo MU - 2/15 09:21:25
     Yep. Can we charge Zuckerberg with thousands of murders? - Hbombtiger STL - 2/15 08:47:54
     Guns are a vessel for destruction - MrBlueSky MU - 2/15 08:44:11
          If we could magically make guns go away tomorrow do you - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/15 08:57:55
               The problem of gun slaughter - yes would go away if you - raskolnikov MU - 2/15 09:48:39
               I am pretty sure mass shootings would decrease - TigerJackSwartz MU - 2/15 09:12:28
                    But would mass killings? Or would those so inclined simply - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/15 09:34:19
                         All that you listed, require far more planning, expense - MrBlueSky MU - 2/15 09:36:13
                              So the time to gather materials an make a backpack bomb is - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/15 09:45:00
                                   Researching how to make a backpack bomb - MrBlueSky MU - 2/15 09:48:39
                                        You are clueless. I could make a backpack bomb out of - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/15 10:37:09
                    me killing two people at once is a mass shooting - Kazoo MU - 2/15 09:22:22
                         Technically not a mass shooting (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 2/15 09:25:51
               I'm not naive, DH. Someone hell bent on causing harm - MrBlueSky MU - 2/15 09:00:52
                    This was not a spur of the moment decision. It was planned - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/15 09:06:51
                    need? No. But why cant sane people have them? - Kazoo MU - 2/15 09:05:44
          Banning them along with door to door confiscation by - hefeweizen MU - 2/15 08:51:29
               600million guns. - catbirdseat MU - 2/15 09:34:33
               you think those with illegal guns wont - Kazoo MU - 2/15 08:59:09
                    Of course they will. The door to door confiscation by other - hefeweizen MU - 2/15 09:00:12
                         No it won't, its generational - FIJItiger MU - 2/15 09:03:16
                              sounds like it would drag on like the drug war, nm - justwinbaby KC - 2/15 09:20:04
                                   It would make the drug war look like a DUI check point(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/15 09:23:47
                                        Wounded Knee - gun confiscation. - justwinbaby KC - 2/15 09:26:57
                              Your hope goes both ways, you know - pickle MU - 2/15 09:10:35
                                   Right, clearly a lack of rational and logic behind my - FIJItiger MU - 2/15 09:11:34
                                        Yes, you lack rational thought and logic (nm) - pickle MU - 2/15 09:43:13
                                        You think it is logical to summon up an army of armed agents - hefeweizen MU - 2/15 09:12:46
                                             That is the logical approach if you wish to attempt to - FIJItiger MU - 2/15 09:14:08
                                                  We are in agreement. It is the only logical way albeit - hefeweizen MU - 2/15 09:15:28
                                                       Avoiding a problem doesn't solve it (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/15 09:19:28
                                                            theres a bigger force that wants people to have guns - Kazoo MU - 2/15 09:24:08
                                                                 I don't even know what that means, but it sounds rather - FIJItiger MU - 2/15 09:26:07
                                                                      you think politicans arent being controlled by the elite - Kazoo MU - 2/15 09:34:04
                                                            Even if solving that problem causes even more death and - hefeweizen MU - 2/15 09:23:11
                                                                 That is an unfortunate testament to our current society - FIJItiger MU - 2/15 09:25:12
                                                                      It would lead to that. Culturally, Americans are a bit - hefeweizen MU - 2/15 09:27:23
                                                                           There are admittedly some precursor steps - FIJItiger MU - 2/15 09:29:31
                                                                                none of that is ever happening - Kazoo MU - 2/15 09:41:11
                                                                                     Disagree. More normal people that unhinged people - FIJItiger MU - 2/15 09:56:40
                                                                                          really? - Kazoo MU - 2/15 10:01:15
                              Your utopia will not exist here without a ban and - hefeweizen MU - 2/15 09:06:17
                                   But it could, if our society wanted that - FIJItiger MU - 2/15 09:08:55
                                        So you are calling for door to door confiscation of guns by - hefeweizen MU - 2/15 09:11:11
                                             No, I'm engaging in a discussion - FIJItiger MU - 2/15 09:13:20
                                                  And to eliminate a gun problem is to ban them and take them(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/15 09:14:06
                                                       Correct. A child could figure that out (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/15 09:14:26
                                                            Anything short of that is pure dishonesty(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/15 09:16:12
                                        society doesn't have wants (nm) - pickle MU - 2/15 09:10:58
                         so the draft will be brought back? - Kazoo MU - 2/15 09:02:45
                              If guns and the access to them are the problem, a ban and - hefeweizen MU - 2/15 09:04:59
          holy ****. murder is going to happen no matter what - Kazoo MU - 2/15 08:44:55
               Again, this is a very poor argument. - MrBlueSky MU - 2/15 08:45:53
                    no its not. its the only logical argument - Kazoo MU - 2/15 08:47:33
                         Actually I am a caring citizen in that I would - MrBlueSky MU - 2/15 08:48:54
                              you also think theres no way - Kazoo MU - 2/15 08:52:58
                                   At least that many, likely - MrBlueSky MU - 2/15 08:54:27
                                        cool - Kazoo MU - 2/15 08:57:10
     Dude was mentally ill, not morally decayed (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 2/15 08:37:44
          The Dude May have been mentally ill but 4T is also correct. - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/15 08:56:17
          Spent some time in a mental health facility too - MrBlueSky MU - 2/15 08:41:52
               thats not a background check issue thats and adult issue - Kazoo MU - 2/15 08:46:32
                    LOL we have an internet tough guy here - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/15 08:47:35
                         we have an aids baby here - Kazoo MU - 2/15 08:48:08




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