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Counterproductive to what?

Posted on: January 26, 2018 at 18:25:49 CT
RayKinsella1922 SEC
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The basketball program is color blind.

The program will take ANYONE that qualifies and can play ball.

The fans will embrace ANYONE that qualifies and can play ball.

The idea is to win so that the program becomes more successful, can keep recruiting good players, so that the fans have fun, the players have fun, some players go on to professional careers - everyone wins.

That's the potential of the basketball program.

Bringing politics into the basketball program and saying that Mizzou is racist, or has racist fans or has a problem with 'systemic racism' will absolutely not lead to these potentials for the program but instead the opposite.

Cuonzo Martin can totally believe that some systemic racism exists at the institution without making that part of the basketball program in any way whatsoever.

By doing that, he will gain the support of maximum number of fans & players and increase his chances for winning.

By going the other route, claiming or tacitly acknowledging some sort of social justice role, he's going substantially the other route, and the results will not be pretty.
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What CM should have said after the SI article. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 08:29:04
     I don't think most black people would ever say... - thicks - 1/26 18:06:58
          Counterproductive to what? - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 18:25:49
     Get another hobby(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 1/26 16:56:36
          Pumped for the next battle of the social justice warriors - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 17:21:01
     Please shut the f*ck up(nm) - BOILERTIGER MU - 1/26 11:16:42
          Agree -- without the please - sfprman MU - 1/26 13:50:47
          Sorry, no - your idea of suppressing input won't carry - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 11:21:06
     Just read the article for the first time - not surprised - alstl MU - 1/26 10:55:13
     Why do his personal beliefs and experiences matter to you? - tjwheeler UI - 1/26 10:05:35
     did you need him to say that? - bornoncampus MU - 1/26 09:09:39
          By the looks of the anemic fan base in Mizzou Arena, a mater - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 09:11:33
               "I'd like politics out of my sports" Pretty simple if - MNTIGER MU - 1/26 10:34:43
               They aren't, you already said he wasn't a social justice war - Mizzmi27 MU - 1/26 09:27:04
               Attendance was good the other night. You can see - TheWildcat STL - 1/26 09:25:03
                    And we were great too - right up to the point where the - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 09:27:16
     Well they are millionaires thanks to the University - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/26 08:54:24
     But what if he HAS experienced systemic racism? What then?(nm) - LimerNick MU - 1/26 08:45:59
          Then he says the same thing: Let's fight politics and handle - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 08:50:36
          Maybe he's been reading Tigerboard - Mormad MU - 1/26 08:49:47
     You are really stuck on this(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 1/26 08:38:55
          No, I'm not. But the team is. And that's what's important. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 08:42:25
               So you're sure this team didn't win a couple games - Civil-E-Tiger MU - 1/26 08:45:03
                    I didn't say 'only', I'm saying this is a material element - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 08:49:04
                         I was irritated with the whole 2015 ordeal, but it's 2018 - Civil-E-Tiger MU - 1/26 09:02:40
                         You use Social Justice Warrior as a perjorative - Mormad MU - 1/26 08:53:48
                         FYI, there are racist Missouri fans.(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 1/26 08:51:27
                              As there are at every SEC institution. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 08:54:17
                                   No one sees the coach here as a social justice warrior. - Mizzmi27 MU - 1/26 09:12:13
                                        I don't see him as a social justice warrior - I see some - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 09:14:13
                                             Read your post again and make up your mind. - Mizzmi27 MU - 1/26 09:16:06
                                                  Going negative - you're out.(nm) - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 09:20:20
                                                       Going idiot - you're out.(nm) - Gary P. MU - 1/26 12:27:04
                                                            Ah Gary, have you identified the 'good' people.(nm) - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 12:32:36
                                                       It is getting difficult to defend your position. - Mizzmi27 MU - 1/26 09:29:29
                                                            The energy is what it is - disagreeing with won't make it - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 09:31:30
                                                                 The "energy" or lack thereof - Mormad MU - 1/26 09:34:06
                                                                      We won at home the day after the article. - Mizzmi27 MU - 1/26 09:35:40
                                                                           No one knew about the article the day it was posted. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 10:53:59
                                                                                Yeah, this was the day after. - Mizzmi27 MU - 1/26 12:40:36
                                                                                     Regardless of timing the energy is what it is. It takes time - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 13:21:29
                                                                           It was good for a nice long thread - Mormad MU - 1/26 09:38:14
                                                                 Correct, disagreeing won't make it go away - Mizzmi27 MU - 1/26 09:33:10
                                   At every institution in the world. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 1/26 09:02:48
               No, just you bud.(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 1/26 08:44:39
               Link? (nm) - TigerTerror STL - 1/26 08:43:32
                    0-2 the last two games - you need a link to that?(nm) - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 08:44:34
                         Actually 1-2 w/ the win at home. - Mizzmi27 MU - 1/26 09:25:41
                         That's correlation. You got causation? (nm) - TigerTerror STL - 1/26 08:55:50
                              How can the fans go all in when the coach thinks they - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 08:57:20
                                   Wait, so now the team lost because the fans aren't "all in" - Mizzmi27 MU - 1/26 09:13:57
                                        Oh they aren't. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 09:14:49
                                             And that's why the team lost... because of the fans?(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 1/26 09:16:42
                                                  Sorry, no time to bring you up to speed on fan effect. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 09:19:58
                                                       You claimed we were 0-2 because of this article, 1 of those - Mizzmi27 MU - 1/26 09:25:00
                                                            Sorry, you're out due to negativity. Bye - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 09:26:20
                                                                 Lol. - Mizzmi27 MU - 1/26 09:28:48
                                   Simple, I get into a time machine - Mormad MU - 1/26 08:58:33
                         The team isn't playing well because SI released an article? - TheWildcat STL - 1/26 08:46:55
                         Well, you've got the results right - Mormad MU - 1/26 08:45:24
                              I have been bad for drinking soda over the past week - TheWildcat STL - 1/26 08:50:20
     No offense to anyone, but the program needs to - FIJItiger MU - 1/26 08:32:57
          Nice to hear you change your tune.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 1/26 10:06:36
          Lol. Since the turn of the century we've had 2 white - TheWildcat STL - 1/26 08:35:43
               No, because 5 of 6 makes the point more distinctly - FIJItiger MU - 1/26 08:38:48
                    Melvin Watkins was only the head coach because - TheWildcat STL - 1/26 08:40:33
                         Agree, as I said 5 of our last 6 people to be head coach(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 1/26 08:41:20
                              They were never head coach. They filled in when the head - TheWildcat STL - 1/26 08:42:07
                                   What a weird distinction. I can't even tell if you are - FIJItiger MU - 1/26 08:45:43
                                        It's a normal distinction. - Mizzmi27 MU - 1/26 08:46:45
                                        What is worse? Being retarded or acting retarded on purpose? - TheWildcat STL - 1/26 08:46:21
                                             Ha, now Mizzmi27 is agreeing with you. Told you I was right(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 1/26 08:48:14
                                                  I seriously am not sure if you are unintelligent or do it - TheWildcat STL - 1/26 08:49:03
                                                       Could you imagine working for him. Lol (nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/26 10:26:58
                                                       Right, its a really hard concept to grasp - FIJItiger MU - 1/26 08:50:10
                                                            I might even give you Melvin as he was named "interim - TheWildcat STL - 1/26 08:51:32
                                                                 Here is the sentence you are disagreeing with: - FIJItiger MU - 1/26 08:53:50
                                                                      Fuller was not the head coach in the games he was coaching. - TheWildcat STL - 1/26 08:55:59
                                                                           Cool, sorry you were wrong this time. Better luck next time(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 1/26 08:57:56
                                                                                Negative. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 1/26 08:58:17
                                                                                     Ok, wrong and negative. I didn't feel you needed to be - FIJItiger MU - 1/26 08:58:54
                                                                                          Tim Fuller was never the head coach at MU. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 1/26 09:00:10
                                                                                               Condolences on your coma. FYI, MU went 5-0 in those games(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 1/26 09:00:41
                                                                                                    You arguing that he was is as bad as Ragnar arguing that - TheWildcat STL - 1/26 09:02:05
                                                                                                    Since you're all about being "technical", Feej - Mormad MU - 1/26 09:01:57
                                                                                                         I refuse to acknowledge that technicality, I do not - FIJItiger MU - 1/26 09:54:35
                                                                                                              So you'll pick and choose your "facts" - Mormad MU - 1/26 09:56:06
                                                                                                                   Yes (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 1/26 09:56:59
                                                                                                         Haha exactly. He is a total moran. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 1/26 09:02:19
          Yep, the heads of Cuonzo's family members apparently.(nm) - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 08:33:36
               People are allowed to have opinions and perspectives - FIJItiger MU - 1/26 08:37:41
                    Either learn the lesson or suffer the consequences. I could - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 08:41:06
                         And all I'm suggesting is that - FIJItiger MU - 1/26 08:43:52
                              Saban is right on this one: Never let them drag politics - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 08:46:02
                                   If its more than 2%, that is a troubling statement towards - FIJItiger MU - 1/26 08:47:18
                                        Actually far more than 50% are 'conservatives' if you take - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 08:53:27
                                             So you consider the term conservative to = racist? - FIJItiger MU - 1/26 08:56:15
                                                  You can do thought experiments all day long, the bottom line - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 08:59:01
                                                       The ONLY one and I mean the ONLY one - Mormad MU - 1/26 09:00:30
                                                       All I am saying is ideally the program starts to ignore the - FIJItiger MU - 1/26 09:00:17
                                                            Sorry, ignoring doesn't work. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 09:01:39
                                                                 Which game would that be? - Mormad MU - 1/26 09:03:19
                                                                      Mississippi State, should be easy win.(nm) - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 09:05:46
                                                                           Which Ken Pomeroy, who does this for a living - Mormad MU - 1/26 09:07:45
                                                                                44 vs 79 here? - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 09:19:13
                                                                                     That's their ratings - Mormad MU - 1/26 09:25:43
                                                                                          Hey I'm giving you 20 points - so no worries - we're - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 10:48:34
                                                                                The energy is what it is. If this team loses big, say - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 09:10:32
                                                                                     Respectfully, Ray - Mormad MU - 1/26 09:22:52
                                                                                          Oh my heavens, a sports statistic site requires 'reverance' - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 09:24:37
                                                                                               Respect is not reverence, acknowledgement is not - Mormad MU - 1/26 09:29:55
     why? is anyone talking negatively about this article other - ajpe53 MU - 1/26 08:30:43
          It's a well-written comment, Ray - Mormad MU - 1/26 08:34:29
          Because Mizzou and the fan base were made out, in that - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 08:32:56
               No we weren't.(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 1/26 08:39:39
               other than here when the article came out i have literally - ajpe53 MU - 1/26 08:34:35
                    You missed the last couple games apparently. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 08:37:35
                         Waaaaaay overestimating the impact of the article though - Mormad MU - 1/26 08:41:05
                         Curse you SI, you have ruined our young frontcourt (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 1/26 08:40:15
                              That's the point, SI didn't do anything. They cast a light - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 08:44:15
                                   I'm pretty confident he will do the opposite (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 1/26 08:46:15
                                        Me too.(nm) - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 08:55:06
                                             Good for MU, sounds like the program is in good hands(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 1/26 08:57:18
                                                  Losing, but advancing the social justice warrior cause. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/26 09:00:21
                         haha(nm) - ajpe53 MU - 1/26 08:38:16




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