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I've read that fasting could be counter productive for

Posted on: December 24, 2017 at 16:33:26 CT
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people wanting to lose weight. Supposedly the body reacts by slowing down its metabolism, presumably as an adaptation for survival when food is scarce. They say that makes it more difficult to lose weight.

But someone one here posted something on here with a link to a youtube video that had some doctor that allegedly specializes in type 2 diabetes reversal. I think one of the side videos showed something on fasting. Perhaps this one:

Dr. Jason Fung - 'Therapeutic Fasting - Solving the Two-Compartment Problem'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIuj-oMN-Fk

I haven't watched it, but might.

I remember reading that fasting was becoming something of a fad in Europe. People felt that it cleansed the body of toxins or something. I think some of them fasted for a week or more. It sounded kind of gross though, in that they had to give themselves enemas at the end of the fast for some reason to complete the cleansing. That certainly wouldn't appeal to me.

I also remember reading a book (Adrift?)years ago of some guy who was sailing across the ocean solo & one night something smashed his sailboat, he speculated that maybe it was a whale that just happened to come up where he was. He ended up in a little rubber raft & spent weeks, I believe, drifting until he finally made it to the Americas... he had started his journey from Europe.

But the point was that when they found him there was some special procedure they were going to have to do because they thought he had not eaten so long. They wouldn't just give him food because it might make him very sick or kill him. He was able to convince them that he had been able to eat a little bit here and there periodically while adrift. He caught a couple of birds one time. He had also caught & speared a fish here and there, so though he was emaciated they could just go ahead and feed him. Apparently your digestive system shuts down if you go for a very long time without eating. More than just a few days, though, I'm sure.
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Coming offa 45 hr Fast that salad tasted good - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/24 15:47:30
     Be healthy and safe friend!! Merry Christmas!(nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/24 19:51:42
     Best wishes and good health my friend - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/24 19:43:45
          Thanx guys and Merry Christmas to you and yours ! - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/24 19:55:04
     Fasting for your gout?(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 12/24 17:16:30
          Fester's a big fat boy, I need to lose about 75 lbs - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/24 16:16:09
               better lay off thr gange - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/24 19:11:26
               I have read that fasting doesn't work well and in fact - GA Tiger MU - 12/24 17:32:51
                    It is carbs and sugar that leads to weight gain gat, Not fat - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/24 17:46:27
                         'Now you certainly dont want to take in too much fat' - JeffB MU - 12/24 19:03:28
                              I mean if yer trying to lose weight JeffB - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/24 19:07:27
                                   Too much protein will damage your kidneys. 'Too much' fat - JeffB MU - 12/24 19:53:46
                         I don't worry about carbs but avoid sugar like a poison. - GA Tiger MU - 12/24 18:35:53
                              Even worse than sugar is high fructose corn syrup. It is - JeffB MU - 12/24 19:05:10
                                   Yeah, Sweets are my downfall. Cake, Cookies, Sweet rolls - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/24 19:09:11
                                        I used to eat them all the time and had no issues with them. - JeffB MU - 12/24 20:02:00
                    Well ill take a look gat but i already know they are wrong - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/24 17:37:54
                         I'd say you can't miss by eating the right food and - GA Tiger MU - 12/24 18:34:02
               Drop the carbs to about 25-50 grams per day - Spanky KU - 12/24 17:08:00
                    Im trying not to do ANY carbs Spank - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/24 17:11:22
                         You couldn’t have picked worse carbs, - Emoji Man MSU - 12/25 07:43:11
                         ' a couple of muffins and some flour tortillas with Mex food - JeffB MU - 12/24 20:05:37
                         do Whole wheat type carbs... nothing processed. brown rice - Spanky KU - 12/24 17:20:52
                         Well, Im still doin protein shakes with bananas and fruit - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/24 17:18:09
               I've read that fasting could be counter productive for - JeffB MU - 12/24 16:33:26
                    Yeah, That was me JeffB and ive fasted for a week before - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/24 16:38:56
                         So what is the short version of why he recommends fasting vs - JeffB MU - 12/24 16:43:26
                              Because eating often produces an insulin response for one - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/24 16:48:49
                                   But people can easily go into ketosis by eating no carbs & - JeffB MU - 12/24 18:55:32
                                        Yes JeffB, Eating anything produces an insulin response - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/24 19:03:10
                                             Some years ago I fasted for a day or two for the hell of it. - JeffB MU - 12/24 19:13:07
                                   Fes, whats your exercise routine?(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/24 17:35:31
                                        Here lately just walking a couple of miles - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/24 17:40:51
                                             Whatever you do, set a routine. Otherwise its - GA Tiger MU - 12/24 18:30:36
                                             RE: Here lately just walking a couple of miles - sarasotatiger MU - 12/24 18:10:05
                         I watched the video you posted & Dr. Fung seems like a - JeffB MU - 12/24 16:41:42
               Pro tip, Fester. - Evenflow MU - 12/24 16:31:52
                    terrible advice - SwampTiger MU - 12/24 18:16:31
                    Yeah i know - Uncle Fester USMC - 12/24 16:35:10




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