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Maybe it's just defending a kid who's down?

Posted on: December 11, 2017 at 13:42:45 CT
Mormad MU
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CVL gets kicked around here pretty good on an almost daily basis.

He's not a horrible player, but he's got some ugly stat lines.
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Progress for CVL.... - GapDaddy MU - 12/11 13:07:29
     This has gotten so old - BOILERTIGER MU - 12/11 15:35:38
          People are going to discuss players on the team Period! - longtimereader MU - 12/11 20:00:24
               There is a difference between discussing the problems and - MizzouTigerz MU - 12/11 21:14:00
          I agree and Tigerboard is pathetic for allowing it.(nm) - Tiger_1995 MU - 12/11 19:43:27
          He is a harder fighting Tiger than the punks after him - raskolnikov MU - 12/11 18:49:39
          I just find it fascinating that people think he's good at - Mizzmi27 MU - 12/11 17:12:38
               So you think CM is a lousy - MNTIGER MU - 12/11 19:16:07
                    ^^^What I'm talking about. - Mizzmi27 MU - 12/11 19:52:35
                         Not only that - longtimereader MU - 12/11 20:26:14
          It's really a Kim Anderson issue - for some reason, Kim gave - tigerdb MU - 12/11 16:46:35
               that makes no sense - dttiger MU - 12/11 21:43:17
               CVL is really the 9th man or so, at this point and there - MizzouTigerz MU - 12/11 21:25:34
                    The problem is these people that are constantly being this - Uncle John MU - 12/17 00:15:53
               Kim isn't here anymore. If you have an issue with CVLs - MNTIGER MU - 12/11 19:30:33
                    Incorrect...at this point, CM is not over-using CVL - tigerdb MU - 12/11 20:47:19
                         Incorrect...at this point, His PT is only a discussion t - MizzouTigerz MU - 12/11 21:31:15
                    Correct! - longtimereader MU - 12/11 20:29:06
                         Take it to the relationship board (nm) - Uncle John MU - 12/11 20:32:58
          Give it up. - WildCard MU - 12/11 16:33:43
          Apparently Cuonzo wants him in the game less and less.... - GapDaddy MU - 12/11 16:01:25
               His minutes decrease has coincided with Phillips getting - BOILERTIGER MU - 12/11 16:09:00
          amen. just a few points to add: - phrejd MU - 12/11 15:47:58
               You make some good points. - MizzouTigerz MU - 12/11 21:47:26
               You are wrong - Mutiger MU - 12/11 18:29:21
                    Which is why he's getting few minutes lately(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 12/11 19:53:01
               you nailed it (nm) - myself MU - 12/11 16:43:44
               ha, spot on(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 12/11 16:42:00
               Don't follow that "sparse bench". Without him we got - GA Tiger MU - 12/11 16:37:21
                    Phillips, Robertson, Geist, Harris = 4. We are not - MNTIGER MU - 12/11 19:00:28
               He's not a bad defender - Mormad MU - 12/11 16:15:16
                    i agree. it's not that he's a bad defender, it's just that - phrejd MU - 12/11 16:22:30
                         The 'ol "he knows where to be, he just can't get there" - Mizzmi27 MU - 12/11 16:38:43
                         Well, your posts are entertaining - Mormad MU - 12/11 16:24:39
               Lol(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 12/11 15:53:01
          He doesn't really stretch the floor if he doesn't make shots - zodiac6 JC - 12/11 15:42:32
               People still need to guard him - BOILERTIGER MU - 12/11 15:48:51
                    Literally anyone on the roster could fill that role. - zodiac6 JC - 12/11 18:10:42
                         That wasn’t the only thing - WildCard MU - 12/11 18:41:00
                              In the post he responded to it was. - Mizzmi27 MU - 12/11 19:56:16
                    "the fact teams need to guard him" - Mizzmi27 MU - 12/11 16:37:03
          agree. the obsession on him is strange(nm) - ajpe53 MU - 12/11 15:39:45
               I don't think anyone is obsessed. Everyone just thinks - TheWildcat STL - 12/11 15:46:12
                    It's not on Kim at this point. CM is the one - MNTIGER MU - 12/11 19:10:56
     Most of the posts in this thread would suggest - MNTIGER MU - 12/11 13:38:41
          Besides the great points others have made in response to you - longtimereader MU - 12/11 14:14:26
               Before the WGB game I watched CVL and Phillips hit 5 or 6... - BandG MU - 12/11 14:44:31
               The three point specialist myth again. - Evenflow MU - 12/11 14:29:44
                    The key word you may have missed is "supposed" - longtimereader MU - 12/11 14:37:45
                         whoa now. wait a minute. you mean we're talking about the - phrejd MU - 12/11 14:42:28
               RE: Besides the great points others have made in response to you - MNTIGER MU - 12/11 14:24:37
                    not sure what you're missing. "a few very solid minutes" - phrejd MU - 12/11 14:29:14
                         But here's the obvious - longtimereader MU - 12/11 20:14:54
                              This post should have gone to the response below (nm) - longtimereader MU - 12/11 20:22:07
               i can count on one hand the number of "critical" 3s - phrejd MU - 12/11 14:22:57
                    You missed his games in Italy - Downstate UI - 12/11 15:35:36
                         Well, if anyone considers those games critical - Downstate UI - 12/11 15:35:56
                    He was until he got killed on The Walking Dead - Mormad MU - 12/11 14:27:46
               there are at least 6 guys who are better 3-pt shooters. - GapDaddy MU - 12/11 14:17:59
               I have news for some - his disappearing into the corner - Mormad MU - 12/11 14:17:46
                    I think when unathletic people have poor body control... - GapDaddy MU - 12/11 14:23:09
                         If he were un-athletic, he wouldn't be playing D1 basketball - Mormad MU - 12/11 14:26:19
                              "you can't be serious" -ryan rosburg (nm) - phrejd MU - 12/11 14:30:09
                                   Somehow I had almost forgotten about him!(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 12/11 14:31:39
                                        if you're playing pickup ball and you can choose 1 player: - phrejd MU - 12/11 14:37:40
                                             Are we sharing a dressing room and team shower?(nm) - Mormad MU - 12/11 14:38:27
                                                  no - phrejd MU - 12/11 14:39:49
                                                       I'm going full monte!(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 12/11 14:41:55
                                                            me + cunningham vs. you + the sheriff - phrejd MU - 12/11 14:44:31
                                                                 Monte been workin on his jumper, watch out(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 12/11 14:48:30
                                                                      "monte" and "jump" have no business in the same sentence (nm) - phrejd MU - 12/11 14:57:53
                                                                           I'll admit, it's more of a stander(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 12/11 15:06:11
                                                       If I can choose from that group, and you have to choose - Mormad MU - 12/11 14:41:44
                                                            ok now pretend you're choosing from a group of - phrejd MU - 12/11 14:43:45
                                                                 Then I'd take Bagley(nm) - Mormad MU - 12/11 14:45:33
                                        Another guy that took an unwarranted daily flogging - Mormad MU - 12/11 14:37:20
                                             i have no problem with the balding or the white - phrejd MU - 12/11 14:38:51
                              He has D1 size, but not athleticism(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 12/11 14:29:31
          He's on the team and we don't have a ton of depth. - Mizzmi27 MU - 12/11 13:56:19
          13 minutes per game is not a lot of playing time. - GapDaddy MU - 12/11 13:44:12
          Not at all. CVL has gotten most of his minutes against bad - tgr MU - 12/11 13:43:34
          My guess is CVL practices with a lot of effort. Starting - TheWildcat STL - 12/11 13:40:24
     He's last in FG%, FT%, and only ahead of Harris in 3FG% - Mizzmi27 MU - 12/11 13:17:54
          Kim Anderson, the gift that keeps on giving(nm) - NWMizzouFan MU - 12/11 13:28:34
               Kim isn't the one putting CVL on the court. If you are - MNTIGER MU - 12/11 19:14:28
               other offers: Evansville, Lehigh, Missouri State, Southeast - Mizzmi27 MU - 12/11 13:31:29
                    I'd really really really like him to get his degree - TheWildcat STL - 12/11 13:34:15
                         We'd probably schedule them non-con and he would explode - FIJItiger MU - 12/11 13:38:18
                              If only he'd leave, then you could say nice things - Mormad MU - 12/11 13:48:42
          He'd be a decent 6th man at Columbia College.(nm) - GapDaddy MU - 12/11 13:21:13
               To be fair, he'd be a stud at Columbia College. - StaleyTiger MU - 12/11 13:23:47
                    I think you misjudge how much lower level teams... - GapDaddy MU - 12/11 13:28:09
                         He could shoot at the NAIA level and would be one of the - StaleyTiger MU - 12/11 13:37:25
                              No way he is faster. Taller and much stronger. NM - Downstate UI - 12/11 15:37:20
                              the basket is the same size in NAIA as it is in the NCAA(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 12/11 14:00:57
                                   The players aren't though. CVL would have some 6'2" kid - tgr MU - 12/11 14:03:10
                                        I watched Columbia College play (hard to explain) - Downstate UI - 12/11 15:39:11
                                        true, but the only shots he takes here are wide open ones - MizzouAstro MU - 12/11 14:05:08
                              friendly suggestion to get out and see more NAIA and D3... - GapDaddy MU - 12/11 13:41:37
                                   You're crazy. Look at our players who struggled and went to - tgr MU - 12/11 13:52:25
                                        DII Maryville lost to DIII Westminster last season. Suck! - Downstate UI - 12/11 17:19:07
                                        All 3 of those guys are significantly more athletic than CVL - GapDaddy MU - 12/11 13:55:21
                                             Glen Dandridge and Barton were definitely not more athletic - tgr MU - 12/11 14:01:47
                                                  Dandridge was an athletic freak(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 12/11 14:06:11
                                                       Are you confusing him for Marshall Brown? Dandridge was - tgr MU - 12/11 14:08:45
                                                            lol, no - MizzouAstro MU - 12/11 14:09:36
                                                                 And the funny thing is I have seen Kroenke in practice do - tgr MU - 12/11 14:13:21
                                                                      My goodness you have some reading comprehension problems. - GapDaddy MU - 12/11 14:24:47
                                                                           And I disagree. He would be a fine mid to low - tgr MU - 12/11 14:31:29
                                                  CVL never shot 40% in HS from3. It was simply a myth that he - TheWildcat STL - 12/11 14:05:13
                                                       According to this he shot 40% his senior year. - tgr MU - 12/11 14:06:58
                                                            39.8% (nm) - phrejd MU - 12/11 14:18:27
                                                                 39.8% = 40%. That’s basic math (nm) - WildCard MU - 12/11 14:41:01
                                                                 He had one rim out that I'm counting to get to 40%.(nm) - tgr MU - 12/11 14:32:19
                                                       he had a good mid-range game in HS - MizzouAstro MU - 12/11 14:06:53
                                   No offense to those players, but I found the last 3 seasons - FIJItiger MU - 12/11 13:44:39
                                        Well, living in Columbia, the last 3 years.... - GapDaddy MU - 12/11 13:46:43
     If you combine ISU, Utah, UCF, Miami, Green Bay games - FIJItiger MU - 12/11 13:16:11
          this is going to be a bat signal for mutiger(nm) - NWMizzouFan MU - 12/11 13:27:09
               mutiger is suddenly a huge proponent of the +/- stat - Mizzmi27 MU - 12/11 13:29:02
                    he has to be a family member. there is no reason that anyone - NWMizzouFan MU - 12/11 13:30:36
                         Maybe it's just defending a kid who's down? - Mormad MU - 12/11 13:42:45
                              After 11+ years on this board you should - MNTIGER MU - 12/11 13:50:47
                                   Whoa, Mister, you are toeing the "uncivil behavior" line - Mormad MU - 12/11 13:53:32
                                        RE: Whoa, Mister, you are toeing the "uncivil behavior" line - MNTIGER MU - 12/11 13:59:39
                                             I prefer to think of it as they just need a whipping boy - Mormad MU - 12/11 14:04:06
          It's difficult to disappear inside a game. - GapDaddy MU - 12/11 13:20:30
               Shane Rector was a master at that in his brief time here - FIJItiger MU - 12/11 13:22:50




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