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Posted on: June 17, 2017 at 15:25:57 CT

tmcats KSU

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their whole network adventure has been an abortion and utah/cu additions added nothing, obviously. the league has to take steps to protect its place or they'll be subject to big 12 expansion efforts when the gor's expire.

the acc is a basketball conference first. so weight has to be given to their additions, plus the fact they are adding a network, which is yet to be determined as to value. presently, the league's financials are not good.

so, i'd say sec, big, big12, acc and pac.

Edited by tmcats at 15:26:24 on 06/17/17

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Rutgers got hosed in their move - VirginiaGator UF - 6/16 22:29:46

B10 is scum. Hurts their own brand(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 6/19 07:38:30

They're stil doing better than they would in the AAC - Grasslands MU - 6/18 08:35:32

RE: Rutgers didn't get hosed - C2 USA - 6/17 17:36:13

They should be paying the BIG to be a part of it - samclemens MU

- 6/18 06:55:39

Maryland was a good add, IMO, unlike RU. (nm) - zounami MU - 6/18 12:28:32

Beggers can't be choosers - StlOx MU - 6/17 15:31:28

Extortion is wrong. - Supreme Tiger - 6/17 16:28:16

Rutgers didn't have to accept the offer from the B1G... - zounami MU - 6/17 16:30:14

hard to name a worse p5 athletic program than ru(nm) - tmcats KSU - 6/18 09:01:47

Nebraska and Maryland were both good additions, but... - zounami MU - 6/18 12:25:12

Rutgers was mid-major-conference bound (like UConn) until - zounami MU - 6/17 14:44:52

amen!(nm) - tmcats KSU - 6/17 15:11:37

So did Nebraska and Maryland. - AllThingsKC KC - 6/16 23:40:51

RE: So did Nebraska and Maryland. - 19powerback58 USA - 6/18 09:08:40

Yes, yes, and yes. - AllThingsKC KC - 6/18 14:26:55

We've won two SEC division titles in FB so far, and just... - zounami MU - 6/18 12:21:19

sec needed sweet deal to get aTm and missouri(nm) - tmcats KSU - 6/17 15:12:51

Texas A&M flat out divorced Texas. Didn't need a deal from - ozland LSU - 6/17 22:40:10

I'm not sure the SEC "needed" a sweet deal to get A&M. - AllThingsKC KC - 6/17 15:44:46

One more thing that many people don't know about A&M.... - zounami MU - 6/17 16:03:48

Recurring vrs onetime revenue - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 6/17 19:32:37

That was A&M's revenue in 2014. I don't think there's been - zounami MU - 6/17 19:38:21

those financials have to be looked at over time ... - tmcats KSU - 6/17 16:06:05

One more thing: A&M's brand (and revenue) will continue to - zounami MU - 6/17 16:21:05

Yes, but the problem with UT is that they're absolutely... - zounami MU - 6/17 16:19:12

z, you know as well as i that this is a people issue ... - tmcats KSU - 6/17 16:22:05

UT is different, I truly believe that. They are... - zounami MU - 6/17 16:27:28

I tend to agree with tmcats on this, especially with A&M... - zounami MU - 6/17 15:58:37

Missouri was not a "filler" - JimD MU - 6/18 09:24:12

You misinterpreted that post..... - zounami MU - 6/18 12:20:06

No, I didn't. It's your condescending trolling - JimD MU - 6/18 14:47:39

Yes, you did (and you still are). You're letting your grudge - zounami MU - 6/18 18:41:16

It was your language and I'm holding you to it - JimD MU - 6/18 22:22:51

Oh, I'm not denying that A&M was a huge get for the SEC. - AllThingsKC KC - 6/17 16:02:33

The gist of Slive's quote was that you don't take an - zounami MU - 6/17 16:05:22

Agreed, but wouldn't that be the SEC's policy in - AllThingsKC KC - 6/17 16:07:50

every other league teams had to buy their way in ... - tmcats KSU - 6/17 16:09:39

Right. But zounami said - AllThingsKC KC - 6/17 16:14:17

i get your point ... - tmcats KSU - 6/17 16:16:00

You got that right. For once, Mizzou had luck on its side. (nm) - zounami MU - 6/17 16:22:27

That's what I'm wondering: I just assumed - AllThingsKC KC - 6/17 16:19:33

Mike Slive also addressed that. He said something along the - zounami MU - 6/17 16:25:39

suspect the policy is written for the moment. ha(nm) - tmcats KSU - 6/17 16:23:11

Could be. That's pretty "forward-thinking" of them.(nm) - AllThingsKC KC - 6/17 16:25:42

IMO, the SEC did better than any other conference in the - zounami MU - 6/17 15:19:56

i'd put the pac on the bottom ... - tmcats KSU - 6/17 15:25:57

The Pac screwed up. When Texas balked, the Pac should - alwaysright MU - 6/21 07:48:53

some good points, in fact I revised the grades a bit... - zounami MU - 6/17 15:34:05

we're a long ways apart on the pac 12 ... - tmcats KSU - 6/17 16:04:17

I think a Pac-12 / Big-12 television partnership is the way - zounami MU - 6/17 16:12:04

agree with all of that ... - tmcats KSU - 6/17 16:19:05

I hope they don't. Selfishly, I like the SEC having the - zounami MU - 6/17 16:32:55

Wouldn't them Pac-12 renewing their GORs be an - AllThingsKC KC - 6/17 16:10:44

Partnering with the Big12 (as a TV network partner) would - zounami MU - 6/17 16:14:51

Interesting. But how would the schools benefit from that? - AllThingsKC KC - 6/17 16:17:37

the big 12 already is prosperous without a network ... - tmcats KSU - 6/17 16:25:33

So... 2 conferences, 1 network... - AllThingsKC KC - 6/17 16:29:05

As far as your question about air-time, the network can - zounami MU - 6/17 16:45:13

Yes, the SECN does have multiple channels. - AllThingsKC KC - 6/17 16:54:33

That's the biggest challenge. Getting UT on board, which... - zounami MU - 6/17 16:38:59

So basically the only benefit is that - AllThingsKC KC - 6/17 16:47:49

As I said, there would be "alternate channels" offered to - zounami MU - 6/17 16:53:18

I get that. So everyone gets equal air time. - AllThingsKC KC - 6/17 16:56:38

All of that would have to be negotiated. (nm) - zounami MU - 6/17 17:00:13

Right. - AllThingsKC KC - 6/17 17:01:56

this is not a merger but a tv alliance for football and ... - tmcats KSU - 6/17 16:31:58

I don't know, tmcats. - AllThingsKC KC - 6/17 16:41:08

It would be complicated. Imagine the SEC and ACC trying... - zounami MU - 6/17 16:50:31

not enough eyeballs in the big 12 to carry a network ... - tmcats KSU - 6/17 16:47:52

...which is where conference expansion comes in. - AllThingsKC KC - 6/17 16:51:06

:-)(nm) - tmcats KSU - 6/17 16:55:39

The Big 12 is completely capable of - AllThingsKC KC - 6/17 16:59:58

There's no way any PAC school is leaving for the Big12.... - zounami MU - 6/17 17:04:08

I agree. But tmcats said he could see the Pac-12 - AllThingsKC KC - 6/17 17:09:57

Yeah, if that's what he meant (i.e. Big12 raiding Pac12)... - zounami MU - 6/17 17:15:39

arizona schools have long been thought of as ... - tmcats KSU - 6/18 08:54:48

Sorry, but there's absolutely zero chance of it. (nm) - zounami MU - 6/18 12:16:53

this may or may not be the final outcome(nm) - tmcats KSU - 6/17 17:00:46

I'm not trolling here, but I am - AllThingsKC KC - 6/17 17:07:06

Without question, and tmcats knows it. Even KU fans would - zounami MU - 6/17 17:10:17

i've never denied it(nm) - tmcats KSU - 6/18 08:51:47

Just casting a line out? - XRob MU - 6/17 16:07:57

absolutely believe it will happen one way or the other(nm) - tmcats KSU - 6/17 16:08:43

The irony is if Dr. Tom had acted and supported - greendoor MU - 6/17 09:18:10

100 year decisions - MakeShift MU - 6/17 08:20:25

Agreed. (nm) - zounami MU - 6/17 14:47:25

Colorado did well. - Emoji Man MSU - 6/16 23:50:24

where's your satire button?(nm) - tmcats KSU - 6/17 15:13:43

Ah yes. As did Utah.(nm) - AllThingsKC KC - 6/17 01:23:13

We dodged a bullet not accepting junior status in the BIG. - DHighlander NWMSU - 6/16 23:32:55

RE: We dodged a bullet not accepting junior status in the BIG. - SantaBarbaraSker NU - 6/19 12:40:02

We would have been fine after the 6 year buy-in period - Zamboni STL - 6/17 15:09:34

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