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You pays your money and you picks your court decision.

Posted on: February 12, 2017 at 20:12:47 CT

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...a federal judge ruled today that a metro Detroit funeral home did not discriminate against an employee when it fired her (sic) for transitioning from a man into a woman.
That's because transgender individuals are not a protected class under federal employment laws, the judge ruled, and the funeral home can't be forced to make employment decisions that go against its sincerely held religious beliefs.

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2016/08/18/federal-firing-transgender-funeral-director/88949892/

Yet, they do have the same rights as I do. Trannies born male have the same right to the men's room that I, also born male, have. And they don't have any rights I don't have like using the ladies' room.

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Be careful what you wish for, liberals - MIZ45 MU - 2/12 18:37:58

Seattle. Lol(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 2/13 02:37:11

liberals are stupid and short-sighted. They don't look at - tigerNkc KC - 2/12 19:27:02

The stupidity is breathtaking - Uncle Fester USMC - 2/12 19:33:06

Maybe if you cuss a lot it'll refute the facts(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:32:00

The fact is yer a moron - Uncle Fester USMC - 2/12 19:33:56

yor obviously a pole raiser. keep it to yourself - yy4u MU - 2/12 19:33:42

Nope. Straight. Just not a fan of the hypocritical christian - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:40:42

So, to enable ONE trans you throw away general decency - tigerNkc KC - 2/12 19:50:47

Exactly how are their rights being taken away? - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:51:43

Neither is bathroom usage - redngray MU - 2/12 19:55:22

I changed it. Didn't sound right.(nm) - tigerNkc KC - 2/12 19:53:26

General decency is taken away? Edit it back. This is worse(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:54:54

Yes, decency. What the hell is wrong with you? You want a - tigerNkc KC - 2/12 19:57:05

No, of course I don't. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:59:15

Punish a thousand because of ONE sick individual. smh(nm) - tigerNkc KC - 2/12 20:00:10

The transgendered isn't the sick one. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:03:13

Say Christian a few more times - redngray MU - 2/12 20:04:21

Well, that and history(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:04:49

Gonna bring up the crusades too? - redngray MU - 2/12 20:06:41

No, we'll keep it to this country. You can't ignore it(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:07:28

Ignore what? - redngray MU - 2/12 20:10:23

You want to pretend conservative christians haven't used the - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:16:10

And you are incapable of reading posts - redngray MU - 2/12 20:22:11

I said "if it was on my property" - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:32:54

Talking generally about groups of people in history - redngray MU - 2/12 20:43:52

American history is full of the law used to discriminate. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:45:52

Irrelevant nm - redngray MU - 2/12 20:51:18

Then put your head in the sand and pretend otherwise(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:53:54

"Transgendered" People are mentally ill - Uncle Fester USMC - 2/12 19:47:27

Well said.(nm) - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 19:57:23

Um, ok(nm) - tigerNkc KC - 2/12 19:32:30

And to think there were never - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 18:40:43

As you've found out, you're arguing with - GA Tiger MU - 2/12 20:54:13

Plenty of narrow minded liberals too, that's for sure.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:03:03

You do know that's been the right's point of contention, yes - MIZ45 MU - 2/12 18:43:15

White men are far bigger perverts than transgendered - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 18:49:48

Racist^^^^^^(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 2/13 02:52:31

and the ones from illannoy are the biggest - yy4u MU - 2/12 19:24:49

Pandering to the mentally ill. - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 19:17:12

Using the law to restrict people based on sexual orientation - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:19:32

So what? - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 19:44:03

Not all discrimination is bad? Huh? - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:47:26

If that's the law, the law is an ass. - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 19:56:40

RE: If that's the law, the law is an ass. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:01:05

You pays your money and you picks your court decision. - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 20:12:47

And the federal courts are continuing to settle it. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:17:41

That constitutional right to use whatever bathroom I want? - redngray MU - 2/12 19:50:24

No, to use the one aligned with your gender orientation. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:54:25

So where, in the Constitution are the words - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 19:59:24

Same place where is says women can vote?(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:05:48

Nope. Not there. 19th Amendment - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 20:22:15

Oh you mean something added to the constitution to protect - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:34:01

You deliberately misrepresent what the amendment says. - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 20:40:38

The point is the constitution is continually interpreted to - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:45:20

In other words, rather than use the constitutional process - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 20:54:48

Yes, those "leftist judges" have also given rights to women - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:58:29

What rights not covered by the Constitution do you mean? - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 21:10:05

Are you ****ing serious dude? Tell me you aren't asking this - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:11:04

RE: Are you ****ing serious dude? Tell me you aren't asking this - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 21:22:41

And where does case law ultimately get resolved? - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:27:51

In other words, the SC gets to repeal the Constitution by - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 22:13:16

No, it's about interpreting what - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 22:40:30

What a made-up term - redngray MU - 2/12 19:57:19

Yes, Yer "gender orientation" is whatever yer DNA sez it is - Uncle Fester USMC - 2/12 20:06:13

Keeping men out of ladies rooms is not discrimination - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:22:00

Actually, it's both. - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 19:45:38

Good point - we all discriminate every day in many ways - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:55:45

Says the white man(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:05:01

You discriminate every day, from almost the moment you - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:20:19

But not "under the law" dude. Goodness you're slow tonight(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:34:28

I never brought up any aspect of the law - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:36:08

We're talking about discrimination under the law, dude. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:38:56

You were the one who threw "discrimination" around like - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 20:59:19

The entire thread is about discrimination under the law. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:04:30

Then you admit discrimination isn't inherently evil. - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 21:29:08

No, discrimination under the law is unacceptable. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:40:25

I was responding to someone else who did not mention the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:40:27

This is only about discrimination under the law. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:43:14

I was not responding to you on that, and then you get racial - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:44:22

So you were bringing up unrelated points and then - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:46:45

I was responding to another poster - and you jumped in - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:48:23

Oh so reporting unrelated information about discrimination - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:49:09

I was responding to his post, and you worked to bring race - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:51:48

Where is this awful post of mine? - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:54:23

I am responding to another poster who says not all - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:56:33

Who the hell cares how you discriminate outside the law? - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:01:31

Again, it was not directed at you but to a poster who made - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 21:05:17

So neither of you know what discrimination "under the law" - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:07:40

Zero instances of transgendered sexually assaulting. Zero.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:22:53

That's beside the point. - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 19:50:48

So, the perverted white heterosexual men are the issue? - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:52:36

Any race fitting the description. - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 20:04:15

Any race fits. True. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:06:58

Trannies already have "equal protection" under laws - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 20:30:06

Court law says otherwise(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:35:23

Court decision confirms. - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 20:37:50

Court decision confirms there is a right. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:39:30

Another court decision confirms there is no such right. - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 20:43:31

Do you not realize federal appeals are currently figuring - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:48:06

You're the one who threw out one case in which some - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 21:18:30

At no time did I say the SC had already heard the case(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:28:26

How are they figuring it out? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:50:50

REad any of the 15 posts in this thread, dude. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:53:20

I do, but you seemed to indicate there was case law - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:59:39

Oh good ****ing grief. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:05:02

Just trying to follow your "logic" - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 21:08:15

heterosexual men commit far more sexual assault. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:12:21

If form holds, he will tell you he knows that isn't really a - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:45:18

No, you're wrong again. It's being appealed.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:48:29

Because science can conclusively tell us if we are male - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:22:26

And that doesn't mean we can discriminate w the law. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:34:58

It's not discrimination as long as the men and women - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:38:28

Courts disagree. Sorry(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:39:56

Disagree with each other. Too bad. - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 20:46:00

Dumb ass court decision? Let's just say... - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:51:25

The courts did not institute women's suffrage. - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 21:49:53

Leser v. Garnett Feb 1922 - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 22:44:12

So that makes it OK? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:34:21

Yes, zero instances refutes the fear mongering. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:37:45

Not one. Not two. But 5 reported instances listed here. - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 20:36:32

Told you - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:43:04

That was my point in the first place. - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 21:41:00

Transgendered people are not to blame for the crimes of - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 22:45:16

The article proved my point. It's not my fault you were - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:55:40

Becasuse you claim it to be so - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 21:02:02

Finally, you get it. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:10:10

Way to post the article with straight perverted men - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:40:40

Strap on your seatbelt - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:39:07

Is this where you cite due process? - redngray MU - 2/12 19:41:44

Due process? The law shouldn't be used to discriminate. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:45:02

I agee with you that Affirmative Action laws are abhorrant - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:47:06

And there you go - redngray MU - 2/12 19:46:42

He can tell when people are really transgender - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:47:46

Not my fault your article supported my argument. (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:48:36

First, it does not. It is your assumption that is the case - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:51:49

Your article gives examples of straight men being arrested. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:53:26

Why do you assume they are straight? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:54:19

Way to defend the straight sexaul assaulters. Geesh(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:57:15

It is easy to quote statistics that back up your position - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:59:53

And you've yet to supply any stats that refute the studies I - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:04:23

I supplied an article showing that the only way your - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:21:21

You really do bend over backwards to avoiding admitting - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:35:55

I admire your gift - can you get me lottery numbers? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:46:06

Doesn't take much effort to expose your flaws(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:56:04

Like my being a white man, which appears to be a flaw - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 21:00:45

Being white isn't a flaw. I'm white. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:06:18

Oops this was supposed to be under the Constitution one - redngray MU - 2/12 19:42:53

So nothing of a moral nature is off limits - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:41:22

Of course. Sexual assault is wrong. Do you not realize - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:43:58

They claimed to be transgender - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:46:18

No ****. They were perverted straight men, dude.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:47:45

No white supremacists have ever harmed a black - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:50:10

Just read the article before you post it next time(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:51:06

I did read it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:53:27

"claimed" "exploited" - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:08:30

Yes - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:18:33

Goodness, dude. None of those people were - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:37:55

The article does not say that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:47:24

Is that a fact? - redngray MU - 2/12 19:24:32

Yes, see the links I provided(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:25:03

Racist. - redngray MU - 2/12 19:10:19

I'm fine with you practicing whatever twisted sexual or - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:13:11

Likewise you - redngray MU - 2/12 19:16:39

So you advocate using the law to prevent access to public - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:17:57

Completely typical liberal strawman - redngray MU - 2/12 19:22:41

Why must you use the law to discriminate? - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:23:48

RE: Why must you use the law to discriminate? - redngray MU - 2/12 19:26:44

So you should use the law to discriminate against the boogey - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:31:02

Is there a constitutional right to use whatever bathroom - redngray MU - 2/12 19:36:01

Are you really this oblivious to the constitution? (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:38:02

False analogy. They are not equivalent. - Alferd Packer MU

- 2/12 19:20:38

How is it a false analogy? Use of the law to restrict - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:21:58

How do you know white men are 'far more' perverted? - tiger4real MU - 2/12 19:02:25

And that is a very good question - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:06:45

They are far and away the victims of sexual assault (link) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:06:31

That is sad, but that doesn't support your statement - tiger4real MU - 2/12 19:09:49

Here you go: - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:16:33

Here is some fake news (I guess) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:38:52

LOL Way to prove my point. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:42:23

So when they commit crimes, your response is to - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:45:16

They CLAIMED to be until they were arrested. (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:49:14

So they are transgender until they commit a crime - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:55:09

Not at all. Police said they "exploited" the law. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:09:19

Exploiting the law does not mean they are not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:24:16

You truly are hopeless. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:41:26

Again, you're drifting off into another argument. - tiger4real MU - 2/12 19:27:04

Zero instances. Period. Now, want to discuss the sexual - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:31:42

so black men are more perverted than transgenders too? - tiger4real MU - 2/12 19:34:54

yes, they are. I see you've retreated to the... - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:39:01

I haven't retreated to anything. You said perversion - tiger4real MU - 2/12 19:43:36

as you defy all research and crime stats. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:49:57

Give it time. - tiger4real MU - 2/12 19:59:22

So, now the argument is based on the mythical future.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:09:46

Yes because you can't prove otherwise. - tiger4real MU - 2/12 20:14:27

Mine are based on current crime rates and research. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:18:16

No, mine is based on common sense. - tiger4real MU - 2/12 20:25:33

Mine is based on facts and yours on the mythical future - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:42:01

But as far as random posts go - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:12:00

Perversion by anyone will be judged according... - Logan BAMA - 2/12 19:02:21

Don't touch your penis after dark. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:07:54

You're not thinking. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 2/12 19:23:17

And don't look took long at the Golden Girls at halftime. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:24:36

Ashame you're not seeing clearly. - Logan BAMA - 2/12 19:40:49

Amen(nm) - Danny Whizzbang USA - 2/12 18:53:49

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