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RE: If that's the law, the law is an ass.

Posted on: February 12, 2017 at 20:01:05 CT
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Federal courts have ruled that the Constitution’s guarantee of equal protection under the law bars the government from discriminating against people based on their transgender status or gender transition. For example, a federal appeals court in 2011 ruled in favor of a transgender woman whose boss fired her from her state government job because he was uncomfortable with her gender transition. The court ruled that “discrimination against a transgender individual because of her gender nonconformity is sex discrimination, whether it’s described as being on the basis of sex or gender.”

Yes, they have the same rights you do.
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Be careful what you wish for, liberals - MIZ45 MU - 2/12 18:37:58
     Seattle. Lol(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 2/13 02:37:11
     liberals are stupid and short-sighted. They don't look at - tigerNkc KC - 2/12 19:27:02
          The stupidity is breathtaking - Uncle Fester USMC - 2/12 19:33:06
          Maybe if you cuss a lot it'll refute the facts(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:32:00
               The fact is yer a moron - Uncle Fester USMC - 2/12 19:33:56
               yor obviously a pole raiser. keep it to yourself - yy4u MU - 2/12 19:33:42
                    Nope. Straight. Just not a fan of the hypocritical christian - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:40:42
                         So, to enable ONE trans you throw away general decency - tigerNkc KC - 2/12 19:50:47
                              Exactly how are their rights being taken away? - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:51:43
                                   Neither is bathroom usage - redngray MU - 2/12 19:55:22
                                   I changed it. Didn't sound right.(nm) - tigerNkc KC - 2/12 19:53:26
                                        General decency is taken away? Edit it back. This is worse(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:54:54
                                             Yes, decency. What the hell is wrong with you? You want a - tigerNkc KC - 2/12 19:57:05
                                                  No, of course I don't. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:59:15
                                                       Punish a thousand because of ONE sick individual. smh(nm) - tigerNkc KC - 2/12 20:00:10
                                                            The transgendered isn't the sick one. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:03:13
                                                                 Say Christian a few more times - redngray MU - 2/12 20:04:21
                                                                      Well, that and history(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:04:49
                                                                           Gonna bring up the crusades too? - redngray MU - 2/12 20:06:41
                                                                                No, we'll keep it to this country. You can't ignore it(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:07:28
                                                                                     Ignore what? - redngray MU - 2/12 20:10:23
                                                                                          You want to pretend conservative christians haven't used the - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:16:10
                                                                                               And you are incapable of reading posts - redngray MU - 2/12 20:22:11
                                                                                                    I said "if it was on my property" - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:32:54
                                                                                                         Talking generally about groups of people in history - redngray MU - 2/12 20:43:52
                                                                                                              American history is full of the law used to discriminate. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:45:52
                                                                                                                   Irrelevant nm - redngray MU - 2/12 20:51:18
                                                                                                                        Then put your head in the sand and pretend otherwise(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:53:54
                         "Transgendered" People are mentally ill - Uncle Fester USMC - 2/12 19:47:27
                              Well said.(nm) - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 19:57:23
               Um, ok(nm) - tigerNkc KC - 2/12 19:32:30
     And to think there were never - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 18:40:43
          As you've found out, you're arguing with - GA Tiger MU - 2/12 20:54:13
               Plenty of narrow minded liberals too, that's for sure.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:03:03
          You do know that's been the right's point of contention, yes - MIZ45 MU - 2/12 18:43:15
               White men are far bigger perverts than transgendered - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 18:49:48
                    Racist^^^^^^(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 2/13 02:52:31
                    and the ones from illannoy are the biggest - yy4u MU - 2/12 19:24:49
                    Pandering to the mentally ill. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 19:17:12
                         Using the law to restrict people based on sexual orientation - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:19:32
                              So what? - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 19:44:03
                                   Not all discrimination is bad? Huh? - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:47:26
                                        If that's the law, the law is an ass. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 19:56:40
                                             RE: If that's the law, the law is an ass. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:01:05
                                                  You pays your money and you picks your court decision. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 20:12:47
                                                       And the federal courts are continuing to settle it. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:17:41
                                        That constitutional right to use whatever bathroom I want? - redngray MU - 2/12 19:50:24
                                             No, to use the one aligned with your gender orientation. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:54:25
                                                  So where, in the Constitution are the words - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 19:59:24
                                                       Same place where is says women can vote?(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:05:48
                                                            Nope. Not there. 19th Amendment - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 20:22:15
                                                                 Oh you mean something added to the constitution to protect - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:34:01
                                                                      You deliberately misrepresent what the amendment says. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 20:40:38
                                                                           The point is the constitution is continually interpreted to - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:45:20
                                                                                In other words, rather than use the constitutional process - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 20:54:48
                                                                                     Yes, those "leftist judges" have also given rights to women - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:58:29
                                                                                          What rights not covered by the Constitution do you mean? - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 21:10:05
                                                                                               Are you ****ing serious dude? Tell me you aren't asking this - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:11:04
                                                                                                    RE: Are you ****ing serious dude? Tell me you aren't asking this - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 21:22:41
                                                                                                         And where does case law ultimately get resolved? - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:27:51
                                                                                                              In other words, the SC gets to repeal the Constitution by - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 22:13:16
                                                                                                                   No, it's about interpreting what - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 22:40:30
                                                  What a made-up term - redngray MU - 2/12 19:57:19
                                                       Yes, Yer "gender orientation" is whatever yer DNA sez it is - Uncle Fester USMC - 2/12 20:06:13
                              Keeping men out of ladies rooms is not discrimination - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:22:00
                                   Actually, it's both. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 19:45:38
                                        Good point - we all discriminate every day in many ways - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:55:45
                                             Says the white man(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:05:01
                                                  You discriminate every day, from almost the moment you - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:20:19
                                                       But not "under the law" dude. Goodness you're slow tonight(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:34:28
                                                            I never brought up any aspect of the law - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:36:08
                                                                 We're talking about discrimination under the law, dude. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:38:56
                                                                      You were the one who threw "discrimination" around like - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 20:59:19
                                                                           The entire thread is about discrimination under the law. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:04:30
                                                                                Then you admit discrimination isn't inherently evil. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 21:29:08
                                                                                     No, discrimination under the law is unacceptable. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:40:25
                                                                      I was responding to someone else who did not mention the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:40:27
                                                                           This is only about discrimination under the law. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:43:14
                                                                                I was not responding to you on that, and then you get racial - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:44:22
                                                                                     So you were bringing up unrelated points and then - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:46:45
                                                                                          I was responding to another poster - and you jumped in - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:48:23
                                                                                               Oh so reporting unrelated information about discrimination - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:49:09
                                                                                                    I was responding to his post, and you worked to bring race - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:51:48
                                                                                                         Where is this awful post of mine? - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:54:23
                                                                                                              I am responding to another poster who says not all - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:56:33
                                                                                                                   Who the hell cares how you discriminate outside the law? - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:01:31
                                                                                                                        Again, it was not directed at you but to a poster who made - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 21:05:17
                                                                                                                             So neither of you know what discrimination "under the law" - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:07:40
                                   Zero instances of transgendered sexually assaulting. Zero.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:22:53
                                        That's beside the point. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 19:50:48
                                             So, the perverted white heterosexual men are the issue? - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:52:36
                                                  Any race fitting the description. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 20:04:15
                                                       Any race fits. True. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:06:58
                                                            Trannies already have "equal protection" under laws - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 20:30:06
                                                                 Court law says otherwise(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:35:23
                                                                      Court decision confirms. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 20:37:50
                                                                           Court decision confirms there is a right. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:39:30
                                                                                Another court decision confirms there is no such right. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 20:43:31
                                                                                     Do you not realize federal appeals are currently figuring - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:48:06
                                                                                          You're the one who threw out one case in which some - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 21:18:30
                                                                                               At no time did I say the SC had already heard the case(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:28:26
                                                                                          How are they figuring it out? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:50:50
                                                                                               REad any of the 15 posts in this thread, dude. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:53:20
                                                                                                    I do, but you seemed to indicate there was case law - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:59:39
                                                                                                         Oh good ****ing grief. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:05:02
                                                                                                              Just trying to follow your "logic" - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 21:08:15
                                                                                                                   heterosexual men commit far more sexual assault. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:12:21
                                                                                     If form holds, he will tell you he knows that isn't really a - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:45:18
                                                                                          No, you're wrong again. It's being appealed.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:48:29
                                                            Because science can conclusively tell us if we are male - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:22:26
                                                                 And that doesn't mean we can discriminate w the law. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:34:58
                                                                      It's not discrimination as long as the men and women - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:38:28
                                                                           Courts disagree. Sorry(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:39:56
                                                                                Disagree with each other. Too bad. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 20:46:00
                                                                                     Dumb ass court decision? Let's just say... - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:51:25
                                                                                          The courts did not institute women's suffrage. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 21:49:53
                                                                                               Leser v. Garnett Feb 1922 - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 22:44:12
                                        So that makes it OK? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:34:21
                                             Yes, zero instances refutes the fear mongering. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:37:45
                                                  Not one. Not two. But 5 reported instances listed here. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 20:36:32
                                                       Told you - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:43:04
                                                            That was my point in the first place. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 21:41:00
                                                                 Transgendered people are not to blame for the crimes of - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 22:45:16
                                                            The article proved my point. It's not my fault you were - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:55:40
                                                                 Becasuse you claim it to be so - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 21:02:02
                                                                      Finally, you get it. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:10:10
                                                       Way to post the article with straight perverted men - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:40:40
                                                       Strap on your seatbelt - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:39:07
                                                  Is this where you cite due process? - redngray MU - 2/12 19:41:44
                                                       Due process? The law shouldn't be used to discriminate. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:45:02
                                                            I agee with you that Affirmative Action laws are abhorrant - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:47:06
                                                            And there you go - redngray MU - 2/12 19:46:42
                                                                 He can tell when people are really transgender - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:47:46
                                                                      Not my fault your article supported my argument. (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:48:36
                                                                           First, it does not. It is your assumption that is the case - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:51:49
                                                                                Your article gives examples of straight men being arrested. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:53:26
                                                                                     Why do you assume they are straight? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:54:19
                                                                                          Way to defend the straight sexaul assaulters. Geesh(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:57:15
                                                                                               It is easy to quote statistics that back up your position - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:59:53
                                                                                                    And you've yet to supply any stats that refute the studies I - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:04:23
                                                                                                         I supplied an article showing that the only way your - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:21:21
                                                                                                              You really do bend over backwards to avoiding admitting - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:35:55
                                                                                                                   I admire your gift - can you get me lottery numbers? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:46:06
                                                                                                                        Doesn't take much effort to expose your flaws(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:56:04
                                                                                                                             Like my being a white man, which appears to be a flaw - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 21:00:45
                                                                                                                                  Being white isn't a flaw. I'm white. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:06:18
                                                       Oops this was supposed to be under the Constitution one - redngray MU - 2/12 19:42:53
                                                  So nothing of a moral nature is off limits - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:41:22
                                                       Of course. Sexual assault is wrong. Do you not realize - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:43:58
                                                            They claimed to be transgender - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:46:18
                                                                 No ****. They were perverted straight men, dude.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:47:45
                                                                      No white supremacists have ever harmed a black - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:50:10
                                                                           Just read the article before you post it next time(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:51:06
                                                                                I did read it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:53:27
                                                                                     "claimed" "exploited" - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:08:30
                                                                                          Yes - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:18:33
                                                                                               Goodness, dude. None of those people were - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:37:55
                                                                                                    The article does not say that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:47:24
                                        Is that a fact? - redngray MU - 2/12 19:24:32
                                             Yes, see the links I provided(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:25:03
                    Racist. - redngray MU - 2/12 19:10:19
                         I'm fine with you practicing whatever twisted sexual or - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:13:11
                              Likewise you - redngray MU - 2/12 19:16:39
                                   So you advocate using the law to prevent access to public - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:17:57
                                        Completely typical liberal strawman - redngray MU - 2/12 19:22:41
                                             Why must you use the law to discriminate? - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:23:48
                                                  RE: Why must you use the law to discriminate? - redngray MU - 2/12 19:26:44
                                                       So you should use the law to discriminate against the boogey - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:31:02
                                                            Is there a constitutional right to use whatever bathroom - redngray MU - 2/12 19:36:01
                                                                 Are you really this oblivious to the constitution? (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:38:02
                                        False analogy. They are not equivalent. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 19:20:38
                                             How is it a false analogy? Use of the law to restrict - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:21:58
                    How do you know white men are 'far more' perverted? - tiger4real MU - 2/12 19:02:25
                         And that is a very good question - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:06:45
                         They are far and away the victims of sexual assault (link) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:06:31
                              That is sad, but that doesn't support your statement - tiger4real MU - 2/12 19:09:49
                                   Here you go: - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:16:33
                                        Here is some fake news (I guess) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:38:52
                                             LOL Way to prove my point. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:42:23
                                                  So when they commit crimes, your response is to - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:45:16
                                                       They CLAIMED to be until they were arrested. (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:49:14
                                                            So they are transgender until they commit a crime - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:55:09
                                                                 Not at all. Police said they "exploited" the law. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:09:19
                                                                      Exploiting the law does not mean they are not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:24:16
                                                                           You truly are hopeless. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:41:26
                                        Again, you're drifting off into another argument. - tiger4real MU - 2/12 19:27:04
                                             Zero instances. Period. Now, want to discuss the sexual - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:31:42
                                                  so black men are more perverted than transgenders too? - tiger4real MU - 2/12 19:34:54
                                                       yes, they are. I see you've retreated to the... - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:39:01
                                                            I haven't retreated to anything. You said perversion - tiger4real MU - 2/12 19:43:36
                                                                 as you defy all research and crime stats. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:49:57
                                                                      Give it time. - tiger4real MU - 2/12 19:59:22
                                                                           So, now the argument is based on the mythical future.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:09:46
                                                                                Yes because you can't prove otherwise. - tiger4real MU - 2/12 20:14:27
                                                                                     Mine are based on current crime rates and research. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:18:16
                                                                                          No, mine is based on common sense. - tiger4real MU - 2/12 20:25:33
                                                                                               Mine is based on facts and yours on the mythical future - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:42:01
                                   But as far as random posts go - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:12:00
                    Perversion by anyone will be judged according... - Logan BAMA - 2/12 19:02:21
                         Don't touch your penis after dark. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:07:54
                              You're not thinking. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 2/12 19:23:17
                                   And don't look took long at the Golden Girls at halftime. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:24:36
                                        Ashame you're not seeing clearly. - Logan BAMA - 2/12 19:40:49
                    Amen(nm) - Danny Whizzbang USA - 2/12 18:53:49




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