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Posted on: February 12, 2017 at 19:59:15 CT
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A man who thinks he is really a woman is vastly different than someone going through the process or who has completed the process of becoming a woman.

I'm not a fan of using the law to impose the moral (hypocritically moral) positions of the conservative right.
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Be careful what you wish for, liberals - MIZ45 MU - 2/12 18:37:58
     Seattle. Lol(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 2/13 02:37:11
     liberals are stupid and short-sighted. They don't look at - tigerNkc KC - 2/12 19:27:02
          The stupidity is breathtaking - Uncle Fester USMC - 2/12 19:33:06
          Maybe if you cuss a lot it'll refute the facts(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:32:00
               The fact is yer a moron - Uncle Fester USMC - 2/12 19:33:56
               yor obviously a pole raiser. keep it to yourself - yy4u MU - 2/12 19:33:42
                    Nope. Straight. Just not a fan of the hypocritical christian - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:40:42
                         So, to enable ONE trans you throw away general decency - tigerNkc KC - 2/12 19:50:47
                              Exactly how are their rights being taken away? - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:51:43
                                   Neither is bathroom usage - redngray MU - 2/12 19:55:22
                                   I changed it. Didn't sound right.(nm) - tigerNkc KC - 2/12 19:53:26
                                        General decency is taken away? Edit it back. This is worse(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:54:54
                                             Yes, decency. What the hell is wrong with you? You want a - tigerNkc KC - 2/12 19:57:05
                                                  No, of course I don't. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:59:15
                                                       Punish a thousand because of ONE sick individual. smh(nm) - tigerNkc KC - 2/12 20:00:10
                                                            The transgendered isn't the sick one. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:03:13
                                                                 Say Christian a few more times - redngray MU - 2/12 20:04:21
                                                                      Well, that and history(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:04:49
                                                                           Gonna bring up the crusades too? - redngray MU - 2/12 20:06:41
                                                                                No, we'll keep it to this country. You can't ignore it(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:07:28
                                                                                     Ignore what? - redngray MU - 2/12 20:10:23
                                                                                          You want to pretend conservative christians haven't used the - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:16:10
                                                                                               And you are incapable of reading posts - redngray MU - 2/12 20:22:11
                                                                                                    I said "if it was on my property" - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:32:54
                                                                                                         Talking generally about groups of people in history - redngray MU - 2/12 20:43:52
                                                                                                              American history is full of the law used to discriminate. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:45:52
                                                                                                                   Irrelevant nm - redngray MU - 2/12 20:51:18
                                                                                                                        Then put your head in the sand and pretend otherwise(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:53:54
                         "Transgendered" People are mentally ill - Uncle Fester USMC - 2/12 19:47:27
                              Well said.(nm) - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 19:57:23
               Um, ok(nm) - tigerNkc KC - 2/12 19:32:30
     And to think there were never - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 18:40:43
          As you've found out, you're arguing with - GA Tiger MU - 2/12 20:54:13
               Plenty of narrow minded liberals too, that's for sure.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:03:03
          You do know that's been the right's point of contention, yes - MIZ45 MU - 2/12 18:43:15
               White men are far bigger perverts than transgendered - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 18:49:48
                    Racist^^^^^^(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 2/13 02:52:31
                    and the ones from illannoy are the biggest - yy4u MU - 2/12 19:24:49
                    Pandering to the mentally ill. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 19:17:12
                         Using the law to restrict people based on sexual orientation - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:19:32
                              So what? - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 19:44:03
                                   Not all discrimination is bad? Huh? - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:47:26
                                        If that's the law, the law is an ass. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 19:56:40
                                             RE: If that's the law, the law is an ass. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:01:05
                                                  You pays your money and you picks your court decision. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 20:12:47
                                                       And the federal courts are continuing to settle it. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:17:41
                                        That constitutional right to use whatever bathroom I want? - redngray MU - 2/12 19:50:24
                                             No, to use the one aligned with your gender orientation. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:54:25
                                                  So where, in the Constitution are the words - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 19:59:24
                                                       Same place where is says women can vote?(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:05:48
                                                            Nope. Not there. 19th Amendment - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 20:22:15
                                                                 Oh you mean something added to the constitution to protect - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:34:01
                                                                      You deliberately misrepresent what the amendment says. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 20:40:38
                                                                           The point is the constitution is continually interpreted to - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:45:20
                                                                                In other words, rather than use the constitutional process - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 20:54:48
                                                                                     Yes, those "leftist judges" have also given rights to women - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:58:29
                                                                                          What rights not covered by the Constitution do you mean? - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 21:10:05
                                                                                               Are you ****ing serious dude? Tell me you aren't asking this - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:11:04
                                                                                                    RE: Are you ****ing serious dude? Tell me you aren't asking this - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 21:22:41
                                                                                                         And where does case law ultimately get resolved? - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:27:51
                                                                                                              In other words, the SC gets to repeal the Constitution by - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 22:13:16
                                                                                                                   No, it's about interpreting what - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 22:40:30
                                                  What a made-up term - redngray MU - 2/12 19:57:19
                                                       Yes, Yer "gender orientation" is whatever yer DNA sez it is - Uncle Fester USMC - 2/12 20:06:13
                              Keeping men out of ladies rooms is not discrimination - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:22:00
                                   Actually, it's both. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 19:45:38
                                        Good point - we all discriminate every day in many ways - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:55:45
                                             Says the white man(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:05:01
                                                  You discriminate every day, from almost the moment you - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:20:19
                                                       But not "under the law" dude. Goodness you're slow tonight(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:34:28
                                                            I never brought up any aspect of the law - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:36:08
                                                                 We're talking about discrimination under the law, dude. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:38:56
                                                                      You were the one who threw "discrimination" around like - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 20:59:19
                                                                           The entire thread is about discrimination under the law. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:04:30
                                                                                Then you admit discrimination isn't inherently evil. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 21:29:08
                                                                                     No, discrimination under the law is unacceptable. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:40:25
                                                                      I was responding to someone else who did not mention the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:40:27
                                                                           This is only about discrimination under the law. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:43:14
                                                                                I was not responding to you on that, and then you get racial - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:44:22
                                                                                     So you were bringing up unrelated points and then - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:46:45
                                                                                          I was responding to another poster - and you jumped in - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:48:23
                                                                                               Oh so reporting unrelated information about discrimination - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:49:09
                                                                                                    I was responding to his post, and you worked to bring race - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:51:48
                                                                                                         Where is this awful post of mine? - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:54:23
                                                                                                              I am responding to another poster who says not all - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:56:33
                                                                                                                   Who the hell cares how you discriminate outside the law? - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:01:31
                                                                                                                        Again, it was not directed at you but to a poster who made - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 21:05:17
                                                                                                                             So neither of you know what discrimination "under the law" - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:07:40
                                   Zero instances of transgendered sexually assaulting. Zero.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:22:53
                                        That's beside the point. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 19:50:48
                                             So, the perverted white heterosexual men are the issue? - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:52:36
                                                  Any race fitting the description. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 20:04:15
                                                       Any race fits. True. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:06:58
                                                            Trannies already have "equal protection" under laws - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 20:30:06
                                                                 Court law says otherwise(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:35:23
                                                                      Court decision confirms. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 20:37:50
                                                                           Court decision confirms there is a right. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:39:30
                                                                                Another court decision confirms there is no such right. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 20:43:31
                                                                                     Do you not realize federal appeals are currently figuring - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:48:06
                                                                                          You're the one who threw out one case in which some - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 21:18:30
                                                                                               At no time did I say the SC had already heard the case(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:28:26
                                                                                          How are they figuring it out? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:50:50
                                                                                               REad any of the 15 posts in this thread, dude. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:53:20
                                                                                                    I do, but you seemed to indicate there was case law - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:59:39
                                                                                                         Oh good ****ing grief. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:05:02
                                                                                                              Just trying to follow your "logic" - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 21:08:15
                                                                                                                   heterosexual men commit far more sexual assault. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:12:21
                                                                                     If form holds, he will tell you he knows that isn't really a - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:45:18
                                                                                          No, you're wrong again. It's being appealed.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:48:29
                                                            Because science can conclusively tell us if we are male - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:22:26
                                                                 And that doesn't mean we can discriminate w the law. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:34:58
                                                                      It's not discrimination as long as the men and women - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:38:28
                                                                           Courts disagree. Sorry(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:39:56
                                                                                Disagree with each other. Too bad. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 20:46:00
                                                                                     Dumb ass court decision? Let's just say... - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:51:25
                                                                                          The courts did not institute women's suffrage. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 21:49:53
                                                                                               Leser v. Garnett Feb 1922 - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 22:44:12
                                        So that makes it OK? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:34:21
                                             Yes, zero instances refutes the fear mongering. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:37:45
                                                  Not one. Not two. But 5 reported instances listed here. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 20:36:32
                                                       Told you - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:43:04
                                                            That was my point in the first place. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 21:41:00
                                                                 Transgendered people are not to blame for the crimes of - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 22:45:16
                                                            The article proved my point. It's not my fault you were - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:55:40
                                                                 Becasuse you claim it to be so - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 21:02:02
                                                                      Finally, you get it. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:10:10
                                                       Way to post the article with straight perverted men - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:40:40
                                                       Strap on your seatbelt - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:39:07
                                                  Is this where you cite due process? - redngray MU - 2/12 19:41:44
                                                       Due process? The law shouldn't be used to discriminate. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:45:02
                                                            I agee with you that Affirmative Action laws are abhorrant - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:47:06
                                                            And there you go - redngray MU - 2/12 19:46:42
                                                                 He can tell when people are really transgender - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:47:46
                                                                      Not my fault your article supported my argument. (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:48:36
                                                                           First, it does not. It is your assumption that is the case - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:51:49
                                                                                Your article gives examples of straight men being arrested. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:53:26
                                                                                     Why do you assume they are straight? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:54:19
                                                                                          Way to defend the straight sexaul assaulters. Geesh(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:57:15
                                                                                               It is easy to quote statistics that back up your position - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:59:53
                                                                                                    And you've yet to supply any stats that refute the studies I - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:04:23
                                                                                                         I supplied an article showing that the only way your - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:21:21
                                                                                                              You really do bend over backwards to avoiding admitting - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:35:55
                                                                                                                   I admire your gift - can you get me lottery numbers? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:46:06
                                                                                                                        Doesn't take much effort to expose your flaws(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:56:04
                                                                                                                             Like my being a white man, which appears to be a flaw - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 21:00:45
                                                                                                                                  Being white isn't a flaw. I'm white. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 21:06:18
                                                       Oops this was supposed to be under the Constitution one - redngray MU - 2/12 19:42:53
                                                  So nothing of a moral nature is off limits - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:41:22
                                                       Of course. Sexual assault is wrong. Do you not realize - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:43:58
                                                            They claimed to be transgender - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:46:18
                                                                 No ****. They were perverted straight men, dude.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:47:45
                                                                      No white supremacists have ever harmed a black - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:50:10
                                                                           Just read the article before you post it next time(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:51:06
                                                                                I did read it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:53:27
                                                                                     "claimed" "exploited" - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:08:30
                                                                                          Yes - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:18:33
                                                                                               Goodness, dude. None of those people were - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:37:55
                                                                                                    The article does not say that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:47:24
                                        Is that a fact? - redngray MU - 2/12 19:24:32
                                             Yes, see the links I provided(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:25:03
                    Racist. - redngray MU - 2/12 19:10:19
                         I'm fine with you practicing whatever twisted sexual or - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:13:11
                              Likewise you - redngray MU - 2/12 19:16:39
                                   So you advocate using the law to prevent access to public - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:17:57
                                        Completely typical liberal strawman - redngray MU - 2/12 19:22:41
                                             Why must you use the law to discriminate? - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:23:48
                                                  RE: Why must you use the law to discriminate? - redngray MU - 2/12 19:26:44
                                                       So you should use the law to discriminate against the boogey - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:31:02
                                                            Is there a constitutional right to use whatever bathroom - redngray MU - 2/12 19:36:01
                                                                 Are you really this oblivious to the constitution? (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:38:02
                                        False analogy. They are not equivalent. - Alferd Packer MU - 2/12 19:20:38
                                             How is it a false analogy? Use of the law to restrict - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:21:58
                    How do you know white men are 'far more' perverted? - tiger4real MU - 2/12 19:02:25
                         And that is a very good question - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:06:45
                         They are far and away the victims of sexual assault (link) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:06:31
                              That is sad, but that doesn't support your statement - tiger4real MU - 2/12 19:09:49
                                   Here you go: - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:16:33
                                        Here is some fake news (I guess) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:38:52
                                             LOL Way to prove my point. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:42:23
                                                  So when they commit crimes, your response is to - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:45:16
                                                       They CLAIMED to be until they were arrested. (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:49:14
                                                            So they are transgender until they commit a crime - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:55:09
                                                                 Not at all. Police said they "exploited" the law. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:09:19
                                                                      Exploiting the law does not mean they are not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 20:24:16
                                                                           You truly are hopeless. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:41:26
                                        Again, you're drifting off into another argument. - tiger4real MU - 2/12 19:27:04
                                             Zero instances. Period. Now, want to discuss the sexual - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:31:42
                                                  so black men are more perverted than transgenders too? - tiger4real MU - 2/12 19:34:54
                                                       yes, they are. I see you've retreated to the... - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:39:01
                                                            I haven't retreated to anything. You said perversion - tiger4real MU - 2/12 19:43:36
                                                                 as you defy all research and crime stats. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:49:57
                                                                      Give it time. - tiger4real MU - 2/12 19:59:22
                                                                           So, now the argument is based on the mythical future.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:09:46
                                                                                Yes because you can't prove otherwise. - tiger4real MU - 2/12 20:14:27
                                                                                     Mine are based on current crime rates and research. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:18:16
                                                                                          No, mine is based on common sense. - tiger4real MU - 2/12 20:25:33
                                                                                               Mine is based on facts and yours on the mythical future - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 20:42:01
                                   But as far as random posts go - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/12 19:12:00
                    Perversion by anyone will be judged according... - Logan BAMA - 2/12 19:02:21
                         Don't touch your penis after dark. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:07:54
                              You're not thinking. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 2/12 19:23:17
                                   And don't look took long at the Golden Girls at halftime. - tjwheeler UI - 2/12 19:24:36
                                        Ashame you're not seeing clearly. - Logan BAMA - 2/12 19:40:49
                    Amen(nm) - Danny Whizzbang USA - 2/12 18:53:49




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