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that's not the right question, matt, don't be dishonest. Th

Posted on: January 3, 2017 at 16:08:00 CT
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ere is nothing wrong with any of it.

What's wrong with vetting that person and having them do so via the US' immigratio policy and laws?

Nothing is preventing people from working in the US legally.

Secondly, how do you plan to demonstrate that everyone being allowed into the US through your magical open door will actually take ajob, buy their own house or rent v. working off the books (unfair to all of us paying payroll taxes and living under the law), live on the streets or worse yet, take property from others?

If you don't track and identify people, you have zero ability to manage any of those things.

The US States manage to ensure everyone who drives a car has a license - it can manage anyone working here to have a valid US work permit.

Quit being disingenuous and creating false dichotomies.
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Would any of you have a problem with Mexicans "illegally" - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 15:07:18
     so they won't use roads, law enforcement or mil protection, - BurgTiger MU - 1/3 18:21:16
          They would pay for them the same way you do. - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 19:19:32
     why the quotations ? - tigerfans3 MSSU - 1/3 17:08:22
          Quotations are needed as without them it makes assumption - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 17:12:16
     Then they wouldn't come here......case solved............nm - tigertix MU - 1/3 16:21:33
          Which leaves immigration problems as government created - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 16:42:08
     Of course - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/3 15:39:46
          Not analogous (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 16:20:21
          Private property has nothing to do with this. - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 16:02:40
               Has something to do with the homeowners on the border - GA Tiger MU - 1/3 16:28:33
                    Restricting the labor pool results in higher costs - pickle MU - 1/3 16:35:34
                    So artificially prop up wages by placing restrictions - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 16:33:29
                         the only artificial element here is adding extra labor from - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 18:33:58
               that's not the right question, matt, don't be dishonest. Th - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 16:08:00
                    It is the right question - pickle MU - 1/3 16:37:27
                         Oh, we changed the context to something Not involving a - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 18:35:02
                              it wasn't disingenuous - pickle MU - 1/3 18:48:02
                         RE: It is the right question - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 16:43:18
                              The NDAA says the government can detain you without - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 16:47:28
                                   RE: The NDAA says the government can detain you without - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 16:49:14
                                        It is sad people allow without question others thousands of - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 16:52:02
                                             RE: It is sad people allow without question others thousands of - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 16:58:50
                                                  Horse**** (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 17:16:48
                                                       RE: Horse**** (nm) - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 17:20:29
                                                            You have no duty, no obligations put upon you - pickle MU - 1/3 17:36:32
                                                                 RE: You have no duty, no obligations put upon you - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 17:37:47
                                                            It won't sorry. (nm) - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 17:31:27
                                                                 RE: It won't sorry. (nm) - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 17:34:24
                                                                      I did. And not for the Dem-GOP status quo.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 17:38:08
                                                                           RE: I did. And not for the Dem-GOP status quo.(nm) - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 17:39:48
                                                                      It's fact, not opinion (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 17:37:36
                                                  So government has free reign to do whatever they want and - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 17:01:08
                                                       RE: So government has free reign to do whatever they want and - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 17:05:37
                                                            Our current government is so far removed from the founding - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 17:13:19
                                                                 RE: Our current government is so far removed from the founding - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 17:18:14
                                                                      Government is illegitimate and immoral - pickle MU - 1/3 17:34:44
                                                                           RE: Government is illegitimate and immoral - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 17:40:15
                    What great ideas - meatiger MU - 1/3 16:19:45
                    People live on the streets now. Working off the books is - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 16:14:53
               RE: Private property has nothing to do with this. - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 16:05:36
                    So is it just because a law says so? If free handouts - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 16:10:52
                         why do people need to come here illegally to find work, - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 16:13:25
                              Eliminate welfare and people would not come here - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 16:18:24
                                   RE: Eliminate welfare and people would not come here - sarasotatiger MU - 1/3 20:25:59
                         RE: So is it just because a law says so? If free handouts - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 16:11:46
                              That is a B.S. argument. Laws don't go away just because a - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 16:16:04
                                   RE: That is a B.S. argument. Laws don't go away just because a - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 16:29:47
     I love how the right goes after the social benefits - meatiger MU - 1/3 15:38:38
          RE: I love how the right goes after the social benefits - sarasotatiger MU - 1/3 18:18:36
          now THAT's a straw man - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/3 15:50:44
               Meatiger spends 60% of his home budget on charity but - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 15:58:44
          you love a lot of things. what do you think is the "biggest - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 15:45:29
               Well...defense - meatiger MU - 1/3 15:47:25
                    In the near future it could be interest payments on debt - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 16:01:44
                         right...so why are you spending time on illegal immigration - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/3 16:23:15
                              Why is coming here for employment illegal? Government - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 16:26:48
                                   false premise - not everyone is coming here for employment - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 18:36:37
                         Very true - meatiger MU - 1/3 16:15:40
                         just don't pay it (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 16:08:50
                         RE: In the near future it could be interest payments on debt - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 16:03:32
                    when did entitlement spending stop being "discretionary" - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 15:53:36
                    RE: Well...defense - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 15:50:49
                    why are you isolating "discretionary"? It's ALL discreionar - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 15:50:26
                         RE: why are you isolating "discretionary"? It's ALL discreionar - meatiger MU - 1/3 16:00:03
                              good lord (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 16:08:30
                                   yeah - meatiger MU - 1/3 16:17:09
     RE: Would any of you have a problem with Mexicans "illegally" - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 15:36:08
          Why would their entry be illegal? What is the purpose - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 15:37:22
               jesus man, just let pickle do this - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/3 15:54:18
                    Mind your own business (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 17:38:29
               What is the purpose of the US restricting the number of - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 15:48:09
               RE: Why would their entry be illegal? What is the purpose - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 15:42:40
                    People coming here to work has no bearing on laws that - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 16:00:31
                         RE: People coming here to work has no bearing on laws that - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 16:09:43
                         matt, are all people coming here illegally now working? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 16:09:29
                         RE: People coming here to work has no bearing on laws that - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 16:08:58
                              As are "illegal" immigrants.(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 16:19:33
                                   RE: As are "illegal" immigrants.(nm) - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 16:34:02
     can an "illegal" become legal by marriage to a citizen? - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/3 15:29:39
     No, i'm tired of them taking up all the roofing jobs - playhard NWMSU - 1/3 15:27:30
          Goats = no lawn, or pretty much anything below the reach - HandBanana MU - 1/3 15:29:23
               Thats why you get double duty sheep if you get my drift - JG A - 1/3 15:39:02
                    Ewwwwwwwwwww (nm) - HandBanana MU - 1/3 15:56:25
                         a ram or two also - JG A - 1/3 16:14:35
     how is that possible? - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/3 15:26:22
          Who pays the tab now for the tens of millions of - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 15:31:01
               that's silliness - Mizzou Lou KC - 1/3 15:48:55
               the anchor baby law needs to go.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/3 15:36:46
                    Yes. (nm) - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 15:37:51
     They should stay in Mexico or immigrate legally. nm. - MUTGR MU - 1/3 15:24:41
     I'd still have a problem with it.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/3 15:19:36
     That is impossible.... - Spanky KU - 1/3 15:18:04
          Don't forget the cost of having said baby at the taxpayer - HandBanana MU - 1/3 15:24:48
               295K babies were born to illegal immigrant parents in 2013 - Spanky KU - 1/3 15:55:17
                    RE: 295K babies were born to illegal immigrant parents in 2013 - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 16:40:22
     I wouldn't, if they cost us nothing but - GA Tiger MU - 1/3 15:12:52
          The drivers license one is ridiculous. No way these folks - HandBanana MU - 1/3 15:26:43
          "but healthcare for life-saving procedures" - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 15:19:49
     would you mind people sneaking into your home if they - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 15:12:26
          Not analogous (nm) - pickle MU - 1/3 16:22:25
          My home is private property. I do not own all the land that - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 15:15:58
               RE: My home is private property. I do not own all the land that - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 16:47:02
                    Who says I have some responsibility? When did I agree to - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 16:48:55
                         RE: Who says I have some responsibility? When did I agree to - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 16:52:58
                              What kind of bull**** is this?(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 16:55:46
               Ok, I rent from you and you and I have a contract that you a - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 15:17:29
                    I can't recall the last time the military was used for - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 15:35:55
                         You didn't answer the question, you deflected. Who is talki - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 15:49:29
                              Don't ignore these people would be paying taxes on - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 16:05:24
                                   RE: Don't ignore these people would be paying taxes on - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 16:56:07
                                        That is an employer issue, not an "illegal" immigrant issue. - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 16:58:50
                                             RE: That is an employer issue, not an "illegal" immigrant issue. - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 17:03:54
                                                  Why are they "illegal"? What is the true purpose to restrict - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 17:15:00
                                                       RE: Why are they "illegal"? What is the true purpose to restrict - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 17:24:08
                                                            You keep parroting the nation of laws line. That does not - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 17:33:47
                                                                 RE: You keep parroting the nation of laws line. That does not - MOCO SON MU - 1/3 17:36:39
                                   on what income? many don't work and many work - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 16:14:48
     yes. why have immigration laws or policy at all if you - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 15:11:49
          But would you care about immigration if it didnt cost - TigerMatt MU - 1/3 15:17:01
               Yes. what is one constitutionally assigned responsibility o - 90Tiger MU - 1/3 15:18:26
     Come in legally, or don't come in. nm - hokie VT - 1/3 15:09:59




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