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I wouldn't be posting about this at all

Posted on: August 25, 2016 at 06:34:52 CT

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if there weren't some here who refuse to acknowledge the truth of the matter.

I don't enjoy discussing the warts on the Mizzou program. But I believe it was a serious matter, and caused a huge black eye for Mizzou (at a time when the University was already bruised and abused).

The NCAA investigation and sanctions are part of the reason the program is where it is today. Perhaps a small part, but they did play a role in the results of the last two seasons. Just like the Miami investigation played a role in Haith's failure to recruit at a level he probably could have otherwise.

My intent in this is not to defend CKA - it's to make sure that we stick to the facts and not deflect and minimize.

Your posts in this thread remind me of the Eleanor Roosevelt quote: "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people."

Thanks for bringing your thoughts to the discussion.

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Mark Tuley - haeffb MU - 8/24 16:45:27

If you were a head bb coach and were doing this, I would - tigerdb MU - 8/25 06:09:55

If you ran MU hoops, we'd be worse than DII (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/24 19:37:02

Solid take, there, Danny (nm) - haeffb MU - 8/24 20:22:38

I have a hard time believing anything that guy said. I - SabertoothTiger MU - 8/24 17:08:26

RE: I have a hard time believing anything that guy said. I - Da_Haze KC - 8/24 20:48:21

if they supported Haith they were probably willing to - SabertoothTiger MU - 8/24 22:44:20

You are so out of touch. - Da_Haze KC - 8/25 07:31:56

nope. I don't like any of it. Cheating is a slap in the - SabertoothTiger MU - 8/25 07:53:24

how do you feel about student athletes "unofficially - tigerdb MU - 8/25 09:12:42

You have to do what you have to do to compete, if you don't - Da_Haze KC - 8/25 09:07:00

There is no doubt in my mind - haeffb MU - 8/24 17:12:03

That's 100% the case. - zodiac6 JC - 8/24 17:33:29

RE: That's 100% the case. - Da_Haze KC - 8/24 20:49:19

For exactly the reason I stated. - zodiac6 JC - 8/24 21:20:31

if I remember correctly there were articles stating - SabertoothTiger MU - 8/24 22:42:03

This is the main reason I support just ending the NCAA rules - zodiac6 JC - 8/25 00:56:36

the beaker investigator paid a lawyer who was - Bobk MU - 8/24 23:49:05

This. Beaker investigator is scum but what it said to me - SabertoothTiger MU - 8/25 07:00:08

RE: Mark Tuley - FIJItiger MU

- 8/24 16:48:42

RE: Mark Tuley - BuckTurgidson KU - 8/24 22:37:04

Cheating is cheating, ku is just much more willing - FIJItiger MU

- 8/25 09:16:46

RE: Cheating is cheating, ku is just much more willing - BuckTurgidson KU - 8/25 09:21:18

ku has been outside the bounds of Lack of Institutional - FIJItiger MU

- 8/25 09:25:23

RE: ku has been outside the bounds of Lack of Institutional - BuckTurgidson KU - 8/25 09:48:47

Seems like a waste of time to try and explain it to you(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 8/25 09:52:18

RE: Seems like a waste of time to try and explain it to you(nm) - BuckTurgidson KU - 8/25 10:10:03

Thanks for the confirmation (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 8/25 10:17:23

RE: Thanks for the confirmation (nm) - BuckTurgidson KU - 8/25 10:28:42

Rather than waste a bunch of time, you can address - FIJItiger MU

- 8/25 10:34:16

RE: Rather than waste a bunch of time, you can address - BuckTurgidson KU - 8/25 10:48:10

RE: Rather than waste a bunch of time, you can address - BuckTurgidson KU - 8/25 12:29:24

Exactly. He is a two faced dbag.(nm) - SabertoothTiger MU - 8/24 22:46:16

Tuley accidentally gave Gant $520 cash? (nm) - haeffb MU - 8/24 16:55:50

again, not Gant (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 8/24 16:59:43

According to the NCAA report, it was. - haeffb MU - 8/24 17:09:33

Between May 25 and 31, 2014 - quicksand MU - 8/24 20:14:57

Great point. - haeffb MU - 8/24 20:17:08

You struggle to avoid being obvious in your desperation - 90Tiger MU - 8/24 22:27:36

I wouldn't be posting about this at all - haeffb MU - 8/25 06:34:52

And the new staff allowed it to continue - quicksand MU - 8/24 22:04:23

Another great question - haeffb MU - 8/25 06:41:47

And thus put an end to MU being D1 - FIJItiger MU

- 8/25 09:21:21

Yes, Fuller helped ruin our program, - nerdmachine KC - 8/25 13:11:22

leaving his comfort zone in Warrensburg was KA's biggest - tigerdb MU - 8/25 06:55:06

he thinks haith masterminded it but KA didn't know about it - 90Tiger MU - 8/24 22:28:29

That isn't correct - FIJItiger MU

- 8/24 17:14:54

No, the newspaper article on Tuley implies - haeffb MU - 8/24 17:25:16

Most programs aren't dumb enough to get caught.(nm) - zodiac6 JC - 8/24 16:53:24

That is what MU is terrible at (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 8/24 16:57:37

No. It's what Haith is terrible at. - zodiac6 JC - 8/24 17:31:39

But you have to give Haith credit - haeffb MU - 8/24 18:37:13

It takes a really brazen and/or stupid head coach to get - zodiac6 JC - 8/24 19:53:28

The NCAA picks and chose universities to make an example - Da_Haze KC - 8/24 20:54:03

RE: The NCAA picks and chose universities to make an example - BuckTurgidson KU - 8/24 22:43:02

same thing happened to Norm, Quin, and Haith(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 8/24 17:41:21

I assume you did not read my post. - zodiac6 JC - 8/24 17:44:42

This (nm) - haeffb MU - 8/24 16:56:08

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