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What is a Western Sufi? Are they their own religion, or a

Posted on: April 26, 2025 at 15:12:55 CT
JeffB MU
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sub group of some larger religious group?

If not, they are a spinoff (no pun intended for our Whirling Dervish board member) of some other group?
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Democracy vs authoritarian. Socialism vs capitalism. Woke vs - KCT-BoneTiger MU - 4/25 19:58:39
     Bye - Calca STL - 4/25 20:42:17
     Judeo-Christianity vs relativism - MU Diaspora MU - 4/25 20:01:35
          RE: Judeo-Christianity vs relativism - sarasotatiger MU - 4/25 21:35:53
               A lot of Christian 'believers' are also relativists, - JeffB MU - 4/25 21:54:09
                    If I am not misunderstanding you, I do not believe it is - TigerMatt STL - 4/25 22:14:35
                         No, a 'relativist' says that there is no objective truth. - JeffB MU - 4/25 22:19:04
                              WHAT ?? - raskolnikov MU - 4/26 08:43:50
                                   THAT is what I'm talkin' about! Thank you rask. You are - JeffB MU - 4/26 15:05:56
                              Objective truth isn’t accessible to humans. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/26 01:13:35
                                   Wrong. But as far as I can tell, living out that belief of - JeffB MU - 4/26 15:09:24
                    RE: A lot of Christian 'believers' are also relativists, - sarasotatiger MU - 4/25 22:10:53
          Christianity doesn’t need a hyphen - El-ahrairah BAMA - 4/25 20:12:32
               There is Christian Mysticism too but I know zero about it.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/25 21:47:47
                    Seems the closest one gets to Christian mystics are either - raskolnikov MU - 4/26 08:22:00
                         There are many Catholic saints who were mystics and there - JeffB MU - 4/26 15:10:53
               RE: Christianity doesn’t need a hyphen - sarasotatiger MU - 4/25 21:26:49
               You're wrong about the Founders and I would just LOVE to see - raskolnikov MU - 4/25 20:32:49
                    Me too - El-ahrairah BAMA - 4/25 22:06:25
                         People haven't seemed to learn a lot from the Babylonian - JeffB MU - 4/25 22:10:02
                    So you're an edge case, eh rask? Who'da thunk it? (nm) - JeffB MU - 4/25 21:09:27
                         No. I am not a Muslim Sufi, just setting setting the poster' - raskolnikov MU - 4/26 07:39:00
                              What is a Western Sufi? Are they their own religion, or a - JeffB MU - 4/26 15:12:55
                              It’s all the same - El-ahrairah BAMA - 4/26 07:52:03
                                   What do you mean by Heathen and the word "all"? - raskolnikov MU - 4/26 08:12:02
                                        Trying to mix all of those is mumbo jumbo - Seagull MU - 4/26 08:54:51
                         lol (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/25 21:44:24
               RE: Christianity doesn’t need a hyphen - MUTGR MU - 4/25 20:30:24
                    Most of the founders were not Christian bud, but you guys - raskolnikov MU - 4/25 20:34:00
                         RE: Most of the founders were not Christian bud, but you guys - sarasotatiger MU - 4/25 21:40:30
                              Gee friend, I would assume a Christian is one subscribes to - raskolnikov MU - 4/26 08:20:07
                         For some historical resources, check out: - JeffB MU - 4/25 21:10:55
                              Work of apologists is not impressive sorry - raskolnikov MU - 4/26 08:33:17
                              Seems like a solid source lol…. : - noodle MU - 4/25 21:19:06
                                   I'm not sure about your source, especially given their - JeffB MU - 4/25 21:46:53
                                        Yeah, who fact checks the fact checkers.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/25 21:51:41
                              Rask does memes and narratives, not facts. But he - MUTGR MU - 4/25 21:18:50
     Go - Tigrrrr! MU - 4/25 20:01:34
     you & yer kind are commies & marxists & are treasonous(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 4/25 20:01:17
          cYou don't know much about Marxism or commies, huh - raskolnikov MU - 4/25 20:39:22
               A lot of people throw out claims about Marxism but have - TigerMatt STL - 4/25 20:52:15
          Would you say you are aware of and actively attentive to - KCT-BoneTiger MU - 4/25 20:09:14
               lol you mean am I indoctrinated by liberal media? (nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 4/25 20:11:17
                    Yes.. you are.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/25 21:00:38
                    So you’re not aware of and attentive to important societal - KCT-BoneTiger MU - 4/25 20:12:21
                         Your world view is rooted in atheism so you don't have facts - TigerFan92 STL - 4/25 20:15:17
                              Who then has "facts" as you say(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 4/26 08:39:44
                              Sounds like your primary source of knowledge is Tucker - TigerMatt STL - 4/25 20:56:59
                              Your world view is rooted in spite and hatred - *M* KC - 4/25 20:40:51
                                   you are an evil commie & with your son advocated killing kid - TigerFan92 STL - 4/25 20:44:23
                                        Isn’t that what you support when you cheer on bombing Gaza?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/25 20:57:53
                                        Like I said - *M* KC - 4/25 20:48:01
                                             He's a Christian In Name Only (nm) - Seagull MU - 4/26 02:06:22
                              Issues are issues. Facts are facts. I’m not asking opinions - KCT-BoneTiger MU - 4/25 20:18:48
                                   Relativity without absolutes lead to temporary facts - TigerFan92 STL - 4/25 20:28:24
                                        What absolutes? There are none. Even in the time of Luther - TigerMatt STL - 4/25 20:59:24
                                        So you are attentive to societal issues? You are not asleep - KCT-BoneTiger MU - 4/25 20:31:57
                                             How do you reconcile believing Hillary's dossier for years? - TigerFan92 STL - 4/25 20:52:22
     Rugged individualism vs radical individualism. - MU Diaspora MU - 4/25 20:01:03




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