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RE: I would like to hear legit arguments against the following

Posted on: January 29, 2025 at 08:46:18 CT
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1. all for it
2. No, work through a budget process. That money has been budgeted.
3. Spending and the role of government power needs to be fixed first. for a consumption tax to be revenue neutral, it would absolutely kill the lower and middle classes. There would likely be a lot of cheating on this just like with income tax, so you would still need the same IRS type agency.

the next 6 months should be intense negotiation around roles of government, getting rid of departments. I am fine even with a 1-3 year plan to allow states to pickup the slacks, or maybe you just do block grants for 1-2 years.

All we have now is noise, and government once again picking winners and losers. without fundamental change, we will go no where.
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I would like to hear legit arguments against the following - Bosalphus KC - 1/29 07:33:27
     Never understood why we tax people who work... - Lerxst MU - 1/29 09:43:33
          RE: Never understood why we tax people who work... - sks MU - 1/29 10:12:07
               that's what makes you a socialist (nm) - Seagull MU - 1/29 10:21:58
                    You obviously have no idea what Socialism is. - sks MU - 1/29 11:26:51
                         it's a redistribution of wealth - Seagull MU - 1/29 11:43:47
     RE: I would like to hear legit arguments against the following - meatiger MU - 1/29 08:46:18
          3 - the easiest way to fix spending by govt - Seagull MU - 1/29 08:49:53
               Until they can stop printing money - meatiger MU - 1/29 08:50:31
                    that's not true - Seagull MU - 1/29 08:53:01
                         Government sets the interest rates - meatiger MU - 1/29 08:53:42
                              false - Seagull MU - 1/29 08:55:49
                                   To pretent the Fed - meatiger MU - 1/29 08:57:50
                                        it isn't government. it's a private entity - Seagull MU - 1/29 09:06:06
                                             RE: it isn't government. it's a private entity - meatiger MU - 1/29 09:17:34
                                                  like a private/public partnership? - Seagull MU - 1/29 09:21:46
                                        So your proposal is to keep the income tax - Bosalphus KC - 1/29 08:59:19
                                             RE: So your proposal is to keep the income tax - meatiger MU - 1/29 09:01:32
                                                  why not force the issue? (nm) - Seagull MU - 1/29 09:06:26
                                                  They can cut spending and get their piggybank - Bosalphus KC - 1/29 09:03:09
                    Another bad take meat (nm) - Bosalphus KC - 1/29 08:50:49
                         RE: Another bad take meat (nm) - meatiger MU - 1/29 08:52:57
                              RE: Another bad take meat (nm) - sks MU - 1/29 09:13:48
                                   just by coincidence - meatiger MU - 1/29 09:16:56
          You're going to have to explain #3 way better - Bosalphus KC - 1/29 08:47:53
               RE: You're going to have to explain #3 way better - meatiger MU - 1/29 08:52:18
                    Are cash payments exempt from the tax? - Bosalphus KC - 1/29 08:53:39
                         they shouldn't be - meatiger MU - 1/29 08:57:12
                              I guess but I'm not really sure how much that - Bosalphus KC - 1/29 08:58:45
                                   why wouldn't it apply - meatiger MU - 1/29 09:01:11
     better off to end payroll tax and replace with consumption - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/29 08:33:02
     Call it what it is. Consumption (highly regressive) tax(nm) - playhard KC - 1/29 08:11:06
          It isn't "highly regressive" (nm) - Bosalphus KC - 1/29 08:12:31
               Are you really that brainwashed to think that?(nm) - playhard KC - 1/29 08:13:55
                    That's ironic coming from you - Bosalphus KC - 1/29 08:15:31
                         By definition it is regressive. - sks MU - 1/29 08:30:53
                         It's a basic understanding of how a consumption tax - playhard KC - 1/29 08:19:37
                              I know exactly what the fair tax is - Bosalphus KC - 1/29 08:26:44
                                   What's are you going to set as a sales tax percetage? - playhard KC - 1/29 08:50:47
                                        0% (nm) - Seagull MU - 1/29 08:56:23
     You are seeing the deep state/establishment under serious - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/29 08:06:57
     someone who loves the government and thinks the role - Seagull MU - 1/29 08:00:37
     Response - sks MU - 1/29 07:59:15
          Why wouldn't a complete freeze make sense? - Bosalphus KC - 1/29 08:13:11
               RE: Why wouldn't a complete freeze make sense? - sks MU - 1/29 09:15:46
     Ok. - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/29 07:58:00
          What about the current freeze destroys the things - Bosalphus KC - 1/29 08:14:24
     rask believes the fed gvmt drives the economy, bro (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/29 07:55:34
     I think I'm not for your point 3, or - GA Tiger MU - 1/29 07:51:56
     The answer, not a good one, to that is all three of those - DHighlander NWMSU - 1/29 07:45:31




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