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Posted on: September 16, 2024 at 13:34:00 CT
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The Supreme Court said present-day laws need to be “relevantly similar” to regulations in place when the Second Amendment was ratified in 1791, or at the latest, by the time the 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868. Which period is most applicable is up for debate.

Judges are also divided over exactly how similar the historical analogs need to be. For some judges, Founding Era laws that disarmed “distrusted” groups — like “Loyalists, Native Americans, Quakers, Catholics, and Blacks” — justify modern-day gun prohibitions on people who use illegal drugs or have committed nonviolent felonies.

But other judges have reached different conclusions, ruling that current laws are too substantially different in “how” and “why” they limit gun rights, or for whom, to be constitutional.

The burden of proving that a law is rooted in tradition falls to the government. If it can’t show that a regulation has a historical counterpart, that regulation is presumed to be unconstitutional. While most of the claims have been unsuccessful, challengers have succeeded in dozens of cases — far more often than before Bruen. This legal onslaught is pushing the boundaries of the new test and raising questions about the future of gun regulation in the United States.
https://www.thetrace.org/2024/09/bruen-ruling-scotus-second-amendment-gun/
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What was routh charged with? - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/16 12:16:34
     More to follow... those were the 'easy' charges - Spanky KU - 9/16 12:20:11
          'The Agent fired his/her service weapon in the direction of - JeffB MU - 9/16 12:48:38
               Suppressive fire - Spanky KU - 9/16 13:05:33
          They are digging trying to find a crime - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/16 12:35:41
               They found the 2 easiest crimes - Spanky KU - 9/16 12:38:44
                    Shall not be infringed - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/16 12:39:52
                         You is still dumb - Spanky KU - 9/16 12:41:46
                              You missed - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/16 12:43:29
                                   I didn't miss that one - Spanky KU - 9/16 12:46:20
                                        Who said anything about selling? - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/16 12:47:40
                                             You is so very stupid(nm) - Spanky KU - 9/16 13:03:22
                                                  Children can have guns - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/16 13:04:04
                                                       You is dumb(nm) - Spanky KU - 9/16 13:06:43
                                                            Be a man - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/16 13:17:28
                                                                 Be a man - Spanky KU - 9/16 13:28:49
     Yes - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/16 12:18:03
          neither one are crimes (nm) - pickle MU - 9/16 12:30:38
               Wrong again. Some things never change.... - Spanky KU - 9/16 12:39:42
                    he isn't arguing that they aren't "illegal", he's stating - 90Tiger STL - 9/16 13:03:37
                         Something that violates a criminal statute is a crime(nm) - Spanky KU - 9/16 13:14:37
                              That's one definition and not the only one, so why not - 90Tiger STL - 9/16 13:22:40
                                   That is not the definition of "crime" - Spanky KU - 9/16 13:31:06
                                        Spanky.. your autistic level of adherence to dictionaries - TigerMatt MISS - 9/16 14:18:09
                                             And I use "infringed" and "crime" in context(nm) - Spanky KU - 9/16 14:30:12
                                                  no, you're not worth discussing anything with, that's your - 90Tiger STL - 9/16 14:35:46
                                                       My reality is understanding English(nm) - Spanky KU - 9/16 15:10:13
                                        have a great day, Spanky! (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 9/16 13:48:48
                                             You too! (nm) - Spanky KU - 9/16 14:08:19
                    RE: Wrong again. Some things never change.... - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/16 12:40:36
                         You remain dumb - Spanky KU - 9/16 12:42:15
                              Infringe was used for a reason. - kmawv8 KC - 9/16 13:21:10
                                   SCOTUS ruled on that - Spanky KU - 9/16 13:34:00
                              why do you think your list of 2nd amendment infringements - 90Tiger STL - 9/16 12:48:30
                                   because it would be "beyond the usual or proper limits" - Spanky KU - 9/16 13:09:21
                                        You're ignoring what is the usual or proper limits. - kmawv8 KC - 9/16 13:21:43
                                             blurry... yet not absent - Spanky KU - 9/16 13:34:44
                                             wherever spanky sees it, or his gvmt sets it at (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 9/16 13:23:16
                                                  It's a convenient position to take. You don't have to - kmawv8 KC - 9/16 13:29:06
                                                       Nope.. when I disagree with the gummint I say "this - Spanky KU - 9/16 13:41:25
                                        wtf is "beyond the usual and proper limits" relative to - 90Tiger STL - 9/16 13:21:38
                                             So you agree that I disagree with SCOTUS. - Spanky KU - 9/16 13:35:52
                                                  I think you disagree without principles upon which to do so, - 90Tiger STL - 9/16 13:51:43
                                                       No.. I am not the one contorting here. There have ALWAYS - Spanky KU - 9/16 14:23:43
          Yeah, I assume those are to guarantee his incarceration and - North co-co champs MU - 9/16 12:21:56
               Most know this is how this is often done - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/16 12:26:00
                    You GOPers hate the 2nd amendment - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/16 12:36:20
                         You remain ignorant on the 2nd Amendment(nm) - Spanky KU - 9/16 12:40:25
                              No, he's right about the 2A, but using horrific logic - 90Tiger STL - 9/16 12:50:06
                                   No.. he is wrong about the 2A and the courts have shown - Spanky KU - 9/16 13:42:36
                                        i dont give F what the courts have said. That's an appeal to - 90Tiger STL - 9/16 13:53:55
                                             I appeal to the definition of words. If you think Hoax is - Spanky KU - 9/16 14:09:45
                              RE: You remain ignorant on the 2nd Amendment(nm) - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/16 12:40:42
               If they know then why not charge him? - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/16 12:22:47
                    Not sure that should matter… he pointed his gun in Trump’s… - North co-co champs MU - 9/16 12:27:56
                         did he? - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/16 12:32:00
                         Which is odd because with the PA shooting they said they - Tigrrrr! MU - 9/16 12:31:43
                              Good question (nm) - North co-co champs MU - 9/16 12:38:45
                    Right now it appears it was only the SS - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 9/16 12:27:47
          RE: Yes - JayHoaxH8r MU - 9/16 12:19:07
               agreed, it doesn't (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 9/16 12:26:03




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