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you can argue ulterior motives and all the other bull****

Posted on: February 23, 2024 at 10:47:20 CT
Fire Marshall Bill STL
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you want, I'm not interested in that

but to act like it was an act of "aggression" (which is what pickle and I are discussing) is just some America hating nonsense

Edited by Fire Marshall Bill at 10:51:03 on 02/23/24
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On this day in 1945, Marines raised the American flag over - Fourth and Long MU - 2/23 08:57:41
     I just don't understand why all the haters don't move - tman MU - 2/23 09:20:38
          RE: I just don't understand why all the haters don't move - BH O'bonga MU - 2/23 10:47:32
          the problem is people want perfection - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 09:58:57
               Perfectionism is a disease, for sure, my friend. It should - Diamond Dave MU - 2/23 10:05:26
               Um, no. People are being actively brainwashed - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 2/23 10:02:11
          The answer is: because YOU'RE HERE Sugar Daddy, - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 2/23 09:57:48
          You can hate our government and should, while still - Diamond Dave MU - 2/23 09:55:54
               You can't get those advantages anywhere else? - tman MU - 2/23 10:03:40
                    Haven't studied where yet, but that's the conundrum right? - Diamond Dave MU - 2/23 10:09:20
                         spot on - meatiger MU - 2/23 10:27:00
                         Fair. It hasn't crossed the threshold for you where - tman MU - 2/23 10:13:49
                              No and it may not. Pay my taxes, do my thing, and one - Diamond Dave MU - 2/23 10:18:46
                    people also have good jobs - meatiger MU - 2/23 10:05:21
          The OP had nothing to do with protests or as you say haters(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 2/23 09:53:17
               It is in the thread, not the original Op(nm) - tman MU - 2/23 10:05:01
          Why do you live in Minnesota - meatiger MU - 2/23 09:31:26
               Because I like it here. Otherwise I would move - tman MU - 2/23 10:06:50
                    exactly - meatiger MU - 2/23 10:25:02
               They're definitely brainwashed death-cult members who - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 2/23 09:55:41
     Another bankster war that gained or solved nothing - Diamond Dave MU - 2/23 09:18:01
          agree, except for that whole genocide thing(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 09:22:53
               again, a cartoonish understanding (nm) - pickle MU - 2/23 09:31:40
                    anything that isn't anti-America="cartoonish understanding"(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 09:37:12
                         no and that’s a lazy reply (nm) - pickle MU - 2/23 09:40:40
                              as are your claims of a "cartoonish understanding"(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 09:42:13
                                   not at all - pickle MU - 2/23 09:43:28
                                        and you have an anti-American view of it - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 09:48:58
                                             “anti-American” is just as cartoonish (nm) - pickle MU - 2/23 09:57:05
               lol the bankers did that (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/23 09:23:24
                    They sure did. Tried to force Germany to accept - Diamond Dave MU - 2/23 09:31:17
                         and what he did from there is not easily determined - ashtray UF - 2/23 09:34:00
                              so what really happened? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/23 09:36:28
                                   we will never know - ashtray UF - 2/23 10:12:13
                                        What do you think really happened? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/23 10:16:09
                                             I think there were a lot of Jews killed - ashtray UF - 2/23 10:18:30
                                                  that number pales in comparison to the gypsies and - CulturedDan MU - 2/23 11:17:44
                                                       Every time I read gypsie now - Sal CMSU - 2/23 11:23:28
                                                            RE: Every time I read gypsie now - CulturedDan MU - 2/23 11:32:40
                                                  JFC you’re a nut job(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 10:33:25
                                                       because? - ashtray UF - 2/23 10:35:27
                                                            I'm not defending the numbers - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 10:41:49
                                                                 America is only assisting one - ashtray UF - 2/23 10:46:40
                                                                      so the Jews are the ones that came up with the numbers? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 10:49:05
                                                                           where did they come from? (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/23 10:53:27
                                                                                perhaps the governments that were established - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 11:00:05
                                                                                I'm sure the armed forces who came across the camps - Sal CMSU - 2/23 10:58:32
                                                                                     I bet it wasn't Germany (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/23 11:01:08
                                                                                          I honestly have no idea (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/23 11:01:35
                                                                                     like pickle - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 11:01:05
                                                                                          lol what??? (nm) - pickle MU - 2/23 11:23:06
                                                                                               your "sources" are nothing other than you repeating - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 11:30:23
                                                                                                    Here, read a book - CulturedDan MU - 2/23 11:37:37
                                                                                                         Hiroshima is exactly what we're debating below - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 11:39:12
                                                                                                              Did you not read my post?(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 2/23 11:39:56
                                                                                                                   "even if you want to debate Hiroshima" - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 11:42:44
                                                                                                                        I think the attitude regarding bombing Nagasaki speaks - CulturedDan MU - 2/23 11:45:00
                                                                                                                             okay, I'm waiting for any sort of evidence that Japan was - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 11:48:37
                                                                                                                                  read. the. book.(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 2/23 11:56:00
                                                                                                                                       LOL- this is what we're doing now? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 11:58:24
                                                                                                                   * - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 11:41:53
                                                                                          no, that's more like you and Sal here (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/23 11:01:22
                                                                                               remind me - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 11:06:25
                                                                                                    you are (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/23 11:06:54
                                                                                               I flat out said I don't know (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/23 11:01:59
                                                                                                    and neither do I - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 11:05:56
                                                                                                         and I'm not the one accusing Germany - ashtray UF - 2/23 11:06:41
                                                                                                              feel free to provide a link of me saying that(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 11:11:22
                                                                                                                   You're defending a claim - ashtray UF - 2/23 11:43:18
                                                                                                                        and you're attacking a claim - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 11:45:02
                                                                                                                             i'm attacking it based on the lack of evidence - ashtray UF - 2/23 13:33:44
                                                                                                                                  what "evidence" can be provided for millions of deaths - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 14:03:39
                                                                                                                                       why does the truth matter? - ashtray UF - 2/23 14:24:05
                                                                                                                                            are you this interested in the accuracy of casualty figures - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 14:27:10
                                                                                                                                                 Why wouldn't I be? - ashtray UF - 2/23 14:28:56
                                                                                                                                                      I too am interested when the govt. is lying - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 14:34:28
                                                                                                                                                           that's a very naive perspective - ashtray UF - 2/23 15:12:04
                                                                 He's suggesting Israel is exaggerating the numbers - Sal CMSU - 2/23 10:43:43
                                                                      is Israel the official treasurer of the holocaust?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 10:50:23
                                                  lmfao (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/23 10:19:17
                                                       not sure why that's funny - ashtray UF - 2/23 10:20:09
                         Hitler told them to f*** off - Sal CMSU - 2/23 09:32:15
                              History would say Hitler hated Jews because they controlled - Diamond Dave MU - 2/23 09:37:23
                                   also the alleged undermining of Germany during WWI - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 09:41:15
                                        Khazarian Jews, ironically from modern Ukraine, are - Diamond Dave MU - 2/23 09:54:08
                                   he sure showed those bankers (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/23 09:38:45
                                        For a time, he sure did. And then the war machine, financed - Diamond Dave MU - 2/23 09:42:40
                                             Do you wish he wasn't stopped? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/23 09:44:38
                                                  Hitler re-built Germany from a war-ravaged, imporverished - Diamond Dave MU - 2/23 10:01:48
                                                       your last sentence has much truth - the Stalin point is - 90Tiger STL - 2/23 10:50:18
                                                       yeah, if only Truman would have given the Japs a heads up - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 10:04:30
                                                            Japan was trying to surrender - pickle MU - 2/23 10:08:56
                                                                 uh no - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 10:10:06
                                                                      uh, yes (nm) - pickle MU - 2/23 10:10:46
                                                                           because you say so, got it! - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 10:25:36
                                                                                no, not because I say so - pickle MU - 2/23 11:24:31
                                                            Getting close in this thread - Sal CMSU - 2/23 10:05:50
                                                                 i don't see anything near that, you're projecting (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 2/23 10:50:59
                                                                      lol no (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/23 10:51:18
                                                                           no what? you're inferring a ton in this thread and - 90Tiger STL - 2/23 10:52:35
                                                                                What am I projecting, exactly? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/23 10:53:45
                                                                                     RE: What am I projecting, exactly? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 2/23 10:59:18
                                                                                          lol you think I'm projecting - Sal CMSU - 2/23 11:00:07
                                                       Maybe he didn't do it in his early years - Sal CMSU - 2/23 10:04:01
                                                            straw - 90Tiger STL - 2/23 10:51:19
                                                            I don't have any emotion either way toward the Jews - Diamond Dave MU - 2/23 10:13:15
                                                                 Let me know how the US caused the holocaust - Sal CMSU - 2/23 10:16:52
                                                                      you're doing a Spanky level job of reading comprehension - 90Tiger STL - 2/23 10:52:04
                                                                      I never insinuated that. Never said Hitler didn't ultimately - Diamond Dave MU - 2/23 10:28:31
                                                            the takes on this board are amazing man - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 10:05:10
                                                                 America funds or is involved in almost every conflict - ashtray UF - 2/23 10:17:19
                                                                      That won't cause peace in the world (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/23 10:18:08
                                                                           can't have peace in the world as long as America - ashtray UF - 2/23 10:19:30
                                                                                Even without that - Sal CMSU - 2/23 10:19:59
                                                                                     not sure if you read my post or not - ashtray UF - 2/23 10:21:06
                                                                                          your assumptions are adorable (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/23 10:21:47
                                                                                               your view of America, the peacemaker is naive (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/23 10:22:50
                                                                                                    I never claimed that (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/23 10:23:33
                                                                                                         you implied it (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/23 10:24:01
                                                                                                              No I didn't ... it's not an either / or thing (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/23 10:26:56
                                                                                                                   if America disappeared - ashtray UF - 2/23 10:27:55
                                                                                                                        probably about the same - Sal CMSU - 2/23 10:36:05
                                                                                                                             lol.. ok - ashtray UF - 2/23 10:45:55
                                                                                                                                  I'm sure the UK's SAS is linked up and working - Sal CMSU - 2/23 10:53:31
                                                                                                                                       they wouldn't be without the USA - ashtray UF - 2/23 10:54:48
                                                                                                                                            How do you know that? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/23 10:55:27
                                                                                                                                                 because their empire fell a hundred years ago - ashtray UF - 2/23 11:04:56
                                                                                                                                                      that's fair (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/23 11:07:54
                                                                 there are a few posters who feel this way - Sal CMSU - 2/23 10:06:22
                                                                      That's fine. Enjoy life Sal. That's ultimately the key - Diamond Dave MU - 2/23 10:17:49
                                                                           Pretty odd statement - Sal CMSU - 2/23 10:18:40
                                                                                I have no idea. You seem to. Hope that continues - Diamond Dave MU - 2/23 10:31:18
                              the conditions imposed by the US and allies - pickle MU - 2/23 09:34:04
                                   Well, no shyte Sherlock! Did you beiieve this was ground - BH O'bonga MU - 2/23 10:44:11
                                        lol None**** - pickle MU - 2/23 11:26:54
                                   I don't think Sal was asking about that(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 09:40:08
                                        the topic is “another bankster war” (nm) - pickle MU - 2/23 09:44:07
     2 months later the Soviets raised their flag over Berlin - El-ahrairah BAMA - 2/23 09:08:38
          RE: 2 months later the Soviets raised their flag over Berlin - sarasotatiger MU - 2/23 09:25:22
          I knew when American heroism was the topic, an America hater - hokie VT - 2/23 09:12:24
               and here you are!(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 2/23 09:32:22
               heroism? - ashtray UF - 2/23 09:15:24
                    RE: heroism? - sarasotatiger MU - 2/23 09:29:49
               you aren’t going to find heroism in the military (nm) - pickle MU - 2/23 09:13:14
          weren't there two theaters going on at the same time? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/23 09:12:00
               European Theater ended in early May, Pacific Theater in - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 09:21:17
                    gotcha (nm) - Sal CMSU - 2/23 09:22:43
     and because of the bravery and sacrifice - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 09:02:36
          Sacrifice, yes, if you were drafted. If voluntary service, - Diamond Dave MU - 2/23 09:39:35
          RE: and because of the bravery and sacrifice - sarasotatiger MU - 2/23 09:36:04
          I don't think that matters. - CulturedDan MU - 2/23 09:33:43
          Dumb(nm) - Panthera MU - 2/23 09:10:43
               how so? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 09:20:28
                    if the US didn't provoke them to attack - ashtray UF - 2/23 09:30:11
                         so an oil embargo is provoking a military attack? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 09:35:30
                              FDR aided England and China militarily - pickle MU - 2/23 09:42:40
                                   why is providing aid an act of war? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 09:44:31
                                        i didn’t say it was an act of war - pickle MU - 2/23 09:47:51
                                             why is providing weapons to another country - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 09:50:22
                                                  H OL Y **** man (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 2/23 10:55:10
                                                  Are you serious? (nm) - pickle MU - 2/23 09:58:26
                                                       I am, there is no act of aggression in just providing the - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 10:00:41
                                                            it was - pickle MU - 2/23 10:11:43
                                                                 again, because you say so - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 10:45:05
                                                                      no, not because I say so (nm) - pickle MU - 2/23 11:27:23
          people could do that anyway - ashtray UF - 2/23 09:04:35
               yes, you could absolutely talk mad **** on the govt. and - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 09:06:16
                    you just moved the goalpost. you said “our” - pickle MU - 2/23 09:08:10
                         I misunderstood his post - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 09:17:26
                              they never threatened the US to begin with (nm) - pickle MU - 2/23 09:19:10
                                   LOL - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 09:19:45
                                        when and why did Japan decide to attack the US, Bill? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 2/23 10:56:12
                                             after we made a free market decision to not trade with - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 11:35:03
                                                  no (nm) - pickle MU - 2/23 12:03:32
                                             because they hate our freedom! (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/23 11:05:22
                                        you have a cartoonish understanding of history - pickle MU - 2/23 09:30:53
                                             what "military" action justified an attack on PH?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 09:36:05
                                                  none. this is a straw man - pickle MU - 2/23 09:41:56
                                                       why is providing military aid to another nation and refusing - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 09:55:45
                                                            you do know that there was a military conflict - pickle MU - 2/23 10:00:09
                                                                 I know all of that, yes - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 10:02:17
                                                                      to provide the "means of defense"? clever wording there - - 90Tiger STL - 2/23 10:58:16
                                                                      it absolutely was - pickle MU - 2/23 10:09:44
                                                                      you think the gov't was merely giving money for "defense" - meatiger MU - 2/23 10:06:54
                                                                           you think the govt. would have given aid for China to invade - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 10:09:16
                                                                                My point is that it was not merely defense - meatiger MU - 2/23 10:19:30
                                                                                     you can argue ulterior motives and all the other bull**** - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 10:47:20
                                                                                          If the US is at war against Iraq and Russia supplies weapons - 90Tiger STL - 2/23 11:00:48
                                                                                               I think the why is important here - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 11:04:52
     the bad guys won (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/23 09:01:43
          those japs would have had you taking a dirt nap years ago - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/23 09:03:11




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