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At the D1 level, does coaching really matter? I'm guessing

Posted on: February 2, 2024 at 14:44:26 CT
Yosa125 TAMU
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there's very little separation in terms of "coaching abilities" between the top 100 programs.

Every coach basically knows all the same stuff, they just might employ it slightly differently...so it seems like at the end of the day, talent trumps all.
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If Gates goes 0-18 this season. - haeffb MU - 2/2 12:20:34
     Go to Vegas and bet on Missouri being 18-0 next season - alstl MU - 2/2 14:03:59
          Well, make it 12-6 then (nm) - haeffb MU - 2/2 14:13:42
     "if Kim Anderson had gone 18-0 in a hypothetical 4th season - zounami MU - 2/2 13:39:40
          KA was a good coach. Just not a good D1 - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 13:53:53
               is Gates a good SEC coach? (nm) - zounami MU - 2/2 14:17:36
                    TBD. He needs more than 2 seasons - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 14:33:00
                         At one school or total? This was mentioned yesterday, - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/2 14:46:59
                              I would say at 1 school. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 14:51:23
                                   4-5 years is 2 recruiting cycles these days. *(nm) - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/2 15:00:00
                                        That gives the coach a chance for his first recruits - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 15:07:59
               Why doesn't it translate? The actual sport is the same - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/2 13:58:40
                    Jimmies and Joes (nm) - haeffb MU - 2/2 13:59:36
                         So it's not about coaching? *(nm) - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/2 14:01:36
                              That’s part of coaching. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 14:26:32
                                   At the D1 level, does coaching really matter? I'm guessing - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/2 14:44:26
                                        It matters. It’s just not the only factor. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 14:48:38
                                             I actually think we might've been the 4th most talented - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/2 14:55:07
                                                  With the injuries plus the ruling allow - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 15:10:39
                                   Gotta be a combination of X&O, talent, culture. - haeffb MU - 2/2 14:31:10
     Who knows. If he's bad with bad players and good with - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/2 13:36:18
     Gates a good or bad coach? - stl 83-93 MU - 2/2 12:35:15
          He’s a good coach in the middle of a bad year(nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 12:47:15
               This year is a little bit below bad in my book *(nm) - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/2 13:48:04
               Hope so(nm) - Panthera MU - 2/2 12:59:22
               RE: He’s a good coach in the middle of a bad year(nm) - tigrito MU - 2/2 12:58:30
                    IF HE GOES 18-0 NEXT YEAR - haeffb MU - 2/2 13:15:11
                         you could ask that same question about any shіtty coach (nm) - zounami MU - 2/2 13:44:46
                              IF ZOUNAMI POSTS 1000 GOOD POSTS IN A ROW - haeffb MU - 2/2 13:55:47
                    Sorry to hurt your feelings (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 13:02:54
                    you think its clear Gates is a bad coach?(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/2 13:00:20
               With a data set of 2 at the HM level(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 12:47:58
     Average - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 12:29:06
          "a good coach doesn't go 0-18" - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 12:56:19
               It’s almost impossible to go 0-18 in conf, any conference - FIJItiger MU - 2/2 13:35:32
               So Bryce Drew is the one example you found? - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:01:12
                    Scott Drew 1-15 (nm) - haeffb MU - 2/2 13:10:52
                         And the total sample size of seasons for "good coaches"? - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:12:53
                              Winless conf seasons are rare. - haeffb MU - 2/2 13:54:37
                              as are winless conference seasons - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:13:59
                                   I didn't start the thread. - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:16:02
                                        what's stupid about the point you're making is you're - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:18:09
                                             If 0-18 in yr 2, I think he's average after 2 yrs not good - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:20:35
                                                  read harder - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:21:25
                    what is "HM"? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:07:29
                         high major - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:10:03
                              there are very few examples, period - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:12:41
                                   Sure. I own it. And, why is Bryce Drew at Grand Canyon? - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:13:50
                                        are you new to following CBB? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:15:43
                                             But if he's a good coach why did he get fired at Vandy? - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:17:14
                                                  so now, no good coaches ever get fired? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:19:28
                         i assume "high major". it is a way he can discount he - TigerA MU - 2/2 13:09:47
                              Are we not a high major and do we not want to be successful - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:11:46
                                   It didn’t translate to Vandy - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 13:15:28
                                        That's putting it lightly(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:17:28
                                             he went to a NCAAT - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:29:26
                              gotcha, thank you - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:11:23
                                   Is Gates a HM coach or not?(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:14:18
                                        yes but being a HM coach doesn't make you good just - TigerA MU - 2/2 13:19:15
                                             You are missing the point man(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:21:25
                                                  the points you're moving all over the place?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:22:20
                                                       No I'm consistent: He'd be average and not good - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:25:09
                                                            that's not a controversial take at all - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:27:49
                                   lol(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/2 13:12:00
                    RE: So Bryce Drew is the one example you found? - tigrito MU - 2/2 13:02:13
                         I'm not sure, DOC(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:08:21
               RE: "a good coach doesn't go 0-18" - tigrito MU - 2/2 13:00:27




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