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Winless conf seasons are rare.

Posted on: February 2, 2024 at 13:54:37 CT

haeffb MU

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Poor seasons from a good coach are not.

One poor, even horrible, even atrocious, even winless season does not define a coach. Nor does one good season.

I think you agree that it’s too soon to tell on Gates…which was the point of this exercise.

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If Gates goes 0-18 this season. - haeffb MU - 2/2 12:20:34

Go to Vegas and bet on Missouri being 18-0 next season - alstl MU - 2/2 14:03:59

Well, make it 12-6 then (nm) - haeffb MU - 2/2 14:13:42

"if Kim Anderson had gone 18-0 in a hypothetical 4th season - zounami MU - 2/2 13:39:40

KA was a good coach. Just not a good D1 - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 13:53:53

is Gates a good SEC coach? (nm) - zounami MU - 2/2 14:17:36

TBD. He needs more than 2 seasons - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 14:33:00

At one school or total? This was mentioned yesterday, - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/2 14:46:59

I would say at 1 school. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 14:51:23

4-5 years is 2 recruiting cycles these days. *(nm) - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/2 15:00:00

That gives the coach a chance for his first recruits - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 15:07:59

Why doesn't it translate? The actual sport is the same - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/2 13:58:40

Jimmies and Joes (nm) - haeffb MU - 2/2 13:59:36

So it's not about coaching? *(nm) - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/2 14:01:36

That’s part of coaching. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 14:26:32

At the D1 level, does coaching really matter? I'm guessing - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/2 14:44:26

It matters. It’s just not the only factor. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 14:48:38

I actually think we might've been the 4th most talented - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/2 14:55:07

With the injuries plus the ruling allow - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 15:10:39

Gotta be a combination of X&O, talent, culture. - haeffb MU - 2/2 14:31:10

Who knows. If he's bad with bad players and good with - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/2 13:36:18

Gates a good or bad coach? - stl 83-93 MU - 2/2 12:35:15

He’s a good coach in the middle of a bad year(nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 12:47:15

This year is a little bit below bad in my book *(nm) - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/2 13:48:04

Hope so(nm) - Panthera MU - 2/2 12:59:22

RE: He’s a good coach in the middle of a bad year(nm) - tigrito MU - 2/2 12:58:30

IF HE GOES 18-0 NEXT YEAR - haeffb MU - 2/2 13:15:11

you could ask that same question about any shіtty coach (nm) - zounami MU - 2/2 13:44:46

IF ZOUNAMI POSTS 1000 GOOD POSTS IN A ROW - haeffb MU - 2/2 13:55:47

Sorry to hurt your feelings (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 13:02:54

you think its clear Gates is a bad coach?(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/2 13:00:20

With a data set of 2 at the HM level(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 12:47:58

Average - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 12:29:06

"a good coach doesn't go 0-18" - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 12:56:19

It’s almost impossible to go 0-18 in conf, any conference - FIJItiger MU

- 2/2 13:35:32

So Bryce Drew is the one example you found? - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:01:12

Scott Drew 1-15 (nm) - haeffb MU - 2/2 13:10:52

And the total sample size of seasons for "good coaches"? - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:12:53

Winless conf seasons are rare. - haeffb MU - 2/2 13:54:37

as are winless conference seasons - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:13:59

I didn't start the thread. - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:16:02

what's stupid about the point you're making is you're - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:18:09

If 0-18 in yr 2, I think he's average after 2 yrs not good - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:20:35

read harder - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:21:25

what is "HM"? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:07:29

high major - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:10:03

there are very few examples, period - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:12:41

Sure. I own it. And, why is Bryce Drew at Grand Canyon? - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:13:50

are you new to following CBB? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:15:43

But if he's a good coach why did he get fired at Vandy? - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:17:14

so now, no good coaches ever get fired? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:19:28

i assume "high major". it is a way he can discount he - TigerA MU - 2/2 13:09:47

Are we not a high major and do we not want to be successful - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:11:46

It didn’t translate to Vandy - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 13:15:28

That's putting it lightly(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:17:28

he went to a NCAAT - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:29:26

gotcha, thank you - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:11:23

Is Gates a HM coach or not?(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:14:18

yes but being a HM coach doesn't make you good just - TigerA MU - 2/2 13:19:15

You are missing the point man(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:21:25

the points you're moving all over the place?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:22:20

No I'm consistent: He'd be average and not good - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:25:09

that's not a controversial take at all - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:27:49

lol(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/2 13:12:00

RE: So Bryce Drew is the one example you found? - tigrito MU - 2/2 13:02:13

I'm not sure, DOC(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:08:21

RE: "a good coach doesn't go 0-18" - tigrito MU - 2/2 13:00:27