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Are we not a high major and do we not want to be successful

Posted on: February 2, 2024 at 13:11:46 CT
LamarFrazier MU
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as a high major?

I'm not discounting Bryce Drew's Valpo years or his Grand Canyon this year but saying I'm not sure I'd say he's a lock to be a "good coach" and success at Valpo/Grand Canyon doesn't necessarily translate to the SEC.

And this is about Gates and not Drew.
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If Gates goes 0-18 this season. - haeffb MU - 2/2 12:20:34
     Go to Vegas and bet on Missouri being 18-0 next season - alstl MU - 2/2 14:03:59
          Well, make it 12-6 then (nm) - haeffb MU - 2/2 14:13:42
     "if Kim Anderson had gone 18-0 in a hypothetical 4th season - zounami MU - 2/2 13:39:40
          KA was a good coach. Just not a good D1 - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 13:53:53
               is Gates a good SEC coach? (nm) - zounami MU - 2/2 14:17:36
                    TBD. He needs more than 2 seasons - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 14:33:00
                         At one school or total? This was mentioned yesterday, - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/2 14:46:59
                              I would say at 1 school. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 14:51:23
                                   4-5 years is 2 recruiting cycles these days. *(nm) - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/2 15:00:00
                                        That gives the coach a chance for his first recruits - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 15:07:59
               Why doesn't it translate? The actual sport is the same - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/2 13:58:40
                    Jimmies and Joes (nm) - haeffb MU - 2/2 13:59:36
                         So it's not about coaching? *(nm) - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/2 14:01:36
                              That’s part of coaching. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 14:26:32
                                   At the D1 level, does coaching really matter? I'm guessing - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/2 14:44:26
                                        It matters. It’s just not the only factor. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 14:48:38
                                             I actually think we might've been the 4th most talented - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/2 14:55:07
                                                  With the injuries plus the ruling allow - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 15:10:39
                                   Gotta be a combination of X&O, talent, culture. - haeffb MU - 2/2 14:31:10
     Who knows. If he's bad with bad players and good with - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/2 13:36:18
     Gates a good or bad coach? - stl 83-93 MU - 2/2 12:35:15
          He’s a good coach in the middle of a bad year(nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 12:47:15
               This year is a little bit below bad in my book *(nm) - Yosa125 TAMU - 2/2 13:48:04
               Hope so(nm) - Panthera MU - 2/2 12:59:22
               RE: He’s a good coach in the middle of a bad year(nm) - tigrito MU - 2/2 12:58:30
                    IF HE GOES 18-0 NEXT YEAR - haeffb MU - 2/2 13:15:11
                         you could ask that same question about any shіtty coach (nm) - zounami MU - 2/2 13:44:46
                              IF ZOUNAMI POSTS 1000 GOOD POSTS IN A ROW - haeffb MU - 2/2 13:55:47
                    Sorry to hurt your feelings (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 13:02:54
                    you think its clear Gates is a bad coach?(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/2 13:00:20
               With a data set of 2 at the HM level(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 12:47:58
     Average - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 12:29:06
          "a good coach doesn't go 0-18" - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 12:56:19
               It’s almost impossible to go 0-18 in conf, any conference - FIJItiger MU - 2/2 13:35:32
               So Bryce Drew is the one example you found? - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:01:12
                    Scott Drew 1-15 (nm) - haeffb MU - 2/2 13:10:52
                         And the total sample size of seasons for "good coaches"? - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:12:53
                              Winless conf seasons are rare. - haeffb MU - 2/2 13:54:37
                              as are winless conference seasons - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:13:59
                                   I didn't start the thread. - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:16:02
                                        what's stupid about the point you're making is you're - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:18:09
                                             If 0-18 in yr 2, I think he's average after 2 yrs not good - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:20:35
                                                  read harder - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:21:25
                    what is "HM"? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:07:29
                         high major - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:10:03
                              there are very few examples, period - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:12:41
                                   Sure. I own it. And, why is Bryce Drew at Grand Canyon? - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:13:50
                                        are you new to following CBB? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:15:43
                                             But if he's a good coach why did he get fired at Vandy? - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:17:14
                                                  so now, no good coaches ever get fired? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:19:28
                         i assume "high major". it is a way he can discount he - TigerA MU - 2/2 13:09:47
                              Are we not a high major and do we not want to be successful - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:11:46
                                   It didn’t translate to Vandy - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/2 13:15:28
                                        That's putting it lightly(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:17:28
                                             he went to a NCAAT - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:29:26
                              gotcha, thank you - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:11:23
                                   Is Gates a HM coach or not?(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:14:18
                                        yes but being a HM coach doesn't make you good just - TigerA MU - 2/2 13:19:15
                                             You are missing the point man(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:21:25
                                                  the points you're moving all over the place?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:22:20
                                                       No I'm consistent: He'd be average and not good - LamarFrazier MU - 2/2 13:25:09
                                                            that's not a controversial take at all - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:27:49
                                   lol(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/2 13:12:00
                    RE: So Bryce Drew is the one example you found? - tigrito MU - 2/2 13:02:13
                         I'm not sure, DOC(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/2 13:08:21
               RE: "a good coach doesn't go 0-18" - tigrito MU - 2/2 13:00:27




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