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On this you and I agree rask

Posted on: December 28, 2023 at 12:00:29 CT

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Honoring certain achievements are not endorsements of every aspect of a person's life. And when dealing with decades if not centuries past, using today's standards to judge those past actions can be a very foolish endeavor.

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Nikki Haley - profile in cowardice - diaclone ISU - 12/28 10:08:39

She started the trend of tearing down confederate history(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 12/28 11:07:58

It is US History, should not be erased(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 11:23:29

South Carolina wasn’t part of the us during the civil war(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 12/28 12:01:46

Gosh Beav, neither were any number of states(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 12:26:29

Agree. Quit tearing down monuments - GODZILLA MU - 12/28 11:29:27

Agreed if they are put in context(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 11:31:13

Elaborate - GODZILLA MU - 12/28 11:31:53

RE: Elaborate - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 11:58:22

RE: Elaborate - MUTGR MU - 12/28 13:12:50

I agree with you here. Attempting to erase - GODZILLA MU - 12/28 12:06:43

I stated that erasing history WAS a terrible thing(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 12:27:16

On this you and I agree rask - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/28 12:00:29

Well put 4Tigs - Happy New Year for you also brother as '24 - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 12:28:30

Happy New Year rask - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/28 12:41:54

As ummmm states, the cause of the war was - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 11:00:57

RE: As ummmm states, the cause of the war was - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:03:18

another hot take (nm) - Sal CMSU - 12/28 11:33:26

Its always racism or abortion for a democrat - RHAYWORTH MU - 12/28 11:08:39

RE: Its always racism or abortion for a democrat - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:20:08

lol no (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/28 11:06:45

At the decision of 9 superior beings............ - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 11:06:20

Welcome to 160 years ago - Spanky KU - 12/28 11:00:44

And republicans are the party of the draft - El-ahrairah BAMA - 12/28 11:14:19

You is dumb - Spanky KU - 12/28 11:39:49

RE: Welcome to 160 years ago - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:03:55

Nothing in my post was incorrect. Nothing!(nm) - Spanky KU - 12/28 11:07:54

RE: Nothing in my post was incorrect. Nothing!(nm) - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:11:16

The party that keeps the Black man in chains has not changed - Spanky KU - 12/28 11:23:28

And the problem is obscure CRT, right. - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 10:53:57

they can't and shouldn't be trusted (nm) - Sal CMSU - 12/28 11:01:23

You mean like demanding intense cleaning of schools - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 11:03:16

we need to trust that science, BBB (nm) - Sal CMSU - 12/28 11:05:56

There is nothing obscure about CRT - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 10:57:46

Tell me where it is taught friend(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 11:25:15

So before we go off on one of your meaningless tangents - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 12:01:33

I nowhere "sprang" to its defense, unless of course by "it" - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 12:32:44

So now it is an honest teaching versus - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 12:35:04

Define your terms bud(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 13:06:13

You introduced “honest” - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 13:56:56

Honest appraisal of history friend shows the white man has - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 14:08:09

"That is what CRT states friend" - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 14:24:35

JFC, you are dense - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 15:03:10

LOL! If the "theory" isn't taught now - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 15:09:20

schools, universities, corporations, etc. - Sal CMSU - 12/28 11:32:56

Search it dipsht - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 12:04:13

Haven't you stated repeatedly you miss the old - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 14:27:05

RE: There is nothing obscure about CRT - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:05:00

lol "just history" (nm) - Sal CMSU - 12/28 11:31:33

he certainly doesn't know what self-determination, - pickle MU

- 12/28 10:59:42

RE: Nikki Haley - profile in cowardice - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 10:52:43

RE: Nikki Haley - profile in cowardice - BH O'bonga MU - 12/28 10:57:29

RE: Nikki Haley - profile in cowardice - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:08:19

The ugly truth is white Southerners didn't want to share - BH O'bonga MU - 12/28 11:22:07

The cause of the War Between States was political - ummmm MU - 12/28 10:37:56

It wasn't about slavery (nm) - Sal CMSU - 12/28 10:24:45

LOL - JG A - 12/28 12:57:19

what should happen with the south, JG? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 12/28 16:04:11

^^^^^^false - diaclone ISU - 12/28 10:33:46

Because Rs want to bring slavery back, duh(nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 12/28 10:24:36

this isn't a big deal - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 12/28 10:15:25

I agree. I don't like haley and as of now i wouldn't vote - hokie VT - 12/28 10:24:08

Slavery was going to die its own death. Free labor in the - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 11:12:21

RE: I agree. I don't like haley and as of now i wouldn't vote - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 10:56:16

Craftsmen and laborers from the north didn't like competing - BH O'bonga MU - 12/28 11:02:25

RE: Craftsmen and laborers from the north didn't like competing - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:07:25

there was only one cause and reason. slavery was not it (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/28 10:48:40

She’s running for Presisent of all the people, not - namres MU - 12/28 10:21:51

a candidate that can't tell the truth is a big dieal? - diaclone ISU - 12/28 10:19:26

Then. Then lying Biden is out for you as well - tman MU - 12/28 10:37:51

slavery wasn't the cause - pickle MU

- 12/28 10:23:11

States rights issues were the cause of the Civil War - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 12/28 10:20:40

RE: States rights issues were the cause of the Civil War - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:02:19

False - diaclone ISU - 12/28 10:25:06

lol - 90Tiger STL - 12/28 11:04:13

Lincoln's first inaugural address: - ummmm MU - 12/28 10:40:42

RE: Lincoln's first inaugural address: - KC rules MU - 12/28 10:49:08

Who said anything about explaining all history? - ummmm MU - 12/28 10:52:49

He had no purpose to not interfere - KC rules MU - 12/28 10:59:42

It's not what "I think". I'm posting the express motivations - ummmm MU - 12/28 11:07:08

There's also more than I originally posted: - ummmm MU - 12/28 11:15:45

Did FIJI write that? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/28 15:18:22

maybe read the thread first (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/28 11:02:42

RE: maybe read the thread first (nm) - KC rules MU - 12/28 11:06:27

nobody stated nor implied that (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/28 15:18:53

no one in this thread made that assumption (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/28 12:02:17

it may have been a reason for secession - pickle MU

- 12/28 10:27:48

bullshyte - diaclone ISU - 12/28 10:33:01

it wasn't. you can even read Lincoln's words - pickle MU

- 12/28 10:36:22

The party of Wallace and Byrd made it about slavery(nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 12/28 10:26:27

no go read the ariticles of cession of the confederate state - diaclone ISU - 12/28 10:35:40

you're confusing the cause of secession and the direct - 90Tiger STL - 12/28 11:08:01

secession =/= war (nm) - pickle MU

- 12/28 10:36:37