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RE: Lincoln's first inaugural address:

Posted on: December 28, 2023 at 10:49:08 CT
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Lincoln was not a strict abolitionist but opposed the expansion of slavery which he knew would ultimately end slavery as more free states entered the union. The south knew that too and saw Lincoln's position as a big enough threat that they seceded in an effort to preserve slavery indefinitely. As the war progressed, Lincoln became more and more opposed to preserving slavery in the south once the war ended and hence the 13th Amendment. Don't look at a single point in time and think it explains all history.

Edited by KC rules at 10:51:43 on 12/28/23
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Nikki Haley - profile in cowardice - diaclone ISU - 12/28 10:08:39
     She started the trend of tearing down confederate history(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 12/28 11:07:58
          It is US History, should not be erased(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 11:23:29
               South Carolina wasn’t part of the us during the civil war(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 12/28 12:01:46
                    Gosh Beav, neither were any number of states(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 12:26:29
               Agree. Quit tearing down monuments - GODZILLA MU - 12/28 11:29:27
                    Agreed if they are put in context(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 11:31:13
                         Elaborate - GODZILLA MU - 12/28 11:31:53
                              RE: Elaborate - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 11:58:22
                                   RE: Elaborate - MUTGR MU - 12/28 13:12:50
                                   I agree with you here. Attempting to erase - GODZILLA MU - 12/28 12:06:43
                                        I stated that erasing history WAS a terrible thing(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 12:27:16
                                   On this you and I agree rask - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/28 12:00:29
                                        Well put 4Tigs - Happy New Year for you also brother as '24 - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 12:28:30
                                             Happy New Year rask - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/28 12:41:54
     As ummmm states, the cause of the war was - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 11:00:57
          RE: As ummmm states, the cause of the war was - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:03:18
               another hot take (nm) - Sal CMSU - 12/28 11:33:26
               Its always racism or abortion for a democrat - RHAYWORTH MU - 12/28 11:08:39
                    RE: Its always racism or abortion for a democrat - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:20:08
               lol no (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 11:06:45
               At the decision of 9 superior beings............ - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 11:06:20
     Welcome to 160 years ago - Spanky KU - 12/28 11:00:44
          And republicans are the party of the draft - El-ahrairah BAMA - 12/28 11:14:19
               You is dumb - Spanky KU - 12/28 11:39:49
          RE: Welcome to 160 years ago - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:03:55
               Nothing in my post was incorrect. Nothing!(nm) - Spanky KU - 12/28 11:07:54
                    RE: Nothing in my post was incorrect. Nothing!(nm) - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:11:16
                         The party that keeps the Black man in chains has not changed - Spanky KU - 12/28 11:23:28
     And the problem is obscure CRT, right. - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 10:53:57
          they can't and shouldn't be trusted (nm) - Sal CMSU - 12/28 11:01:23
               You mean like demanding intense cleaning of schools - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 11:03:16
                    we need to trust that science, BBB (nm) - Sal CMSU - 12/28 11:05:56
          There is nothing obscure about CRT - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 10:57:46
               Tell me where it is taught friend(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 11:25:15
                    So before we go off on one of your meaningless tangents - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 12:01:33
                         I nowhere "sprang" to its defense, unless of course by "it" - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 12:32:44
                              So now it is an honest teaching versus - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 12:35:04
                                   Define your terms bud(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 13:06:13
                                        You introduced “honest” - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 13:56:56
                                             Honest appraisal of history friend shows the white man has - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 14:08:09
                                                  "That is what CRT states friend" - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 14:24:35
                                                       JFC, you are dense - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 15:03:10
                                                            LOL! If the "theory" isn't taught now - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 15:09:20
                    schools, universities, corporations, etc. - Sal CMSU - 12/28 11:32:56
                         Search it dipsht - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 12:04:13
                              Haven't you stated repeatedly you miss the old - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 14:27:05
               RE: There is nothing obscure about CRT - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:05:00
                    lol "just history" (nm) - Sal CMSU - 12/28 11:31:33
               he certainly doesn't know what self-determination, - pickle MU - 12/28 10:59:42
     RE: Nikki Haley - profile in cowardice - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 10:52:43
          RE: Nikki Haley - profile in cowardice - BH O'bonga MU - 12/28 10:57:29
               RE: Nikki Haley - profile in cowardice - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:08:19
                    The ugly truth is white Southerners didn't want to share - BH O'bonga MU - 12/28 11:22:07
     The cause of the War Between States was political - ummmm MU - 12/28 10:37:56
     It wasn't about slavery (nm) - Sal CMSU - 12/28 10:24:45
          LOL - JG A - 12/28 12:57:19
               what should happen with the south, JG? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 12/28 16:04:11
          ^^^^^^false - diaclone ISU - 12/28 10:33:46
     Because Rs want to bring slavery back, duh(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 12/28 10:24:36
     this isn't a big deal - JayHoaxH8r MU - 12/28 10:15:25
          I agree. I don't like haley and as of now i wouldn't vote - hokie VT - 12/28 10:24:08
               Slavery was going to die its own death. Free labor in the - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 11:12:21
               RE: I agree. I don't like haley and as of now i wouldn't vote - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 10:56:16
                    Craftsmen and laborers from the north didn't like competing - BH O'bonga MU - 12/28 11:02:25
                         RE: Craftsmen and laborers from the north didn't like competing - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:07:25
               there was only one cause and reason. slavery was not it (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 10:48:40
          She’s running for Presisent of all the people, not - namres MU - 12/28 10:21:51
          a candidate that can't tell the truth is a big dieal? - diaclone ISU - 12/28 10:19:26
               Then. Then lying Biden is out for you as well - tman MU - 12/28 10:37:51
               slavery wasn't the cause - pickle MU - 12/28 10:23:11
               States rights issues were the cause of the Civil War - JayHoaxH8r MU - 12/28 10:20:40
                    RE: States rights issues were the cause of the Civil War - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:02:19
                    False - diaclone ISU - 12/28 10:25:06
                         lol - 90Tiger STL - 12/28 11:04:13
                         Lincoln's first inaugural address: - ummmm MU - 12/28 10:40:42
                              RE: Lincoln's first inaugural address: - KC rules MU - 12/28 10:49:08
                                   Who said anything about explaining all history? - ummmm MU - 12/28 10:52:49
                                        He had no purpose to not interfere - KC rules MU - 12/28 10:59:42
                                             It's not what "I think". I'm posting the express motivations - ummmm MU - 12/28 11:07:08
                                                  There's also more than I originally posted: - ummmm MU - 12/28 11:15:45
                                                       Did FIJI write that? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/28 15:18:22
                                             maybe read the thread first (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 11:02:42
                                                  RE: maybe read the thread first (nm) - KC rules MU - 12/28 11:06:27
                                                       nobody stated nor implied that (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/28 15:18:53
                                                       no one in this thread made that assumption (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 12:02:17
                         it may have been a reason for secession - pickle MU - 12/28 10:27:48
                              bullshyte - diaclone ISU - 12/28 10:33:01
                                   it wasn't. you can even read Lincoln's words - pickle MU - 12/28 10:36:22
                         The party of Wallace and Byrd made it about slavery(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 12/28 10:26:27
                              no go read the ariticles of cession of the confederate state - diaclone ISU - 12/28 10:35:40
                                   you're confusing the cause of secession and the direct - 90Tiger STL - 12/28 11:08:01
                                   secession =/= war (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 10:36:37




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