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you're confusing the cause of secession and the direct

Posted on: December 28, 2023 at 11:08:01 CT
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cause of the war - which was lincoln's desire to keep fed control of the southern states.

The southern states could have been left to their own.

Everything you think you know is wrong.
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Nikki Haley - profile in cowardice - diaclone ISU - 12/28 10:08:39
     She started the trend of tearing down confederate history(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 12/28 11:07:58
          It is US History, should not be erased(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 11:23:29
               South Carolina wasn’t part of the us during the civil war(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 12/28 12:01:46
                    Gosh Beav, neither were any number of states(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 12:26:29
               Agree. Quit tearing down monuments - GODZILLA MU - 12/28 11:29:27
                    Agreed if they are put in context(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 11:31:13
                         Elaborate - GODZILLA MU - 12/28 11:31:53
                              RE: Elaborate - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 11:58:22
                                   RE: Elaborate - MUTGR MU - 12/28 13:12:50
                                   I agree with you here. Attempting to erase - GODZILLA MU - 12/28 12:06:43
                                        I stated that erasing history WAS a terrible thing(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 12:27:16
                                   On this you and I agree rask - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/28 12:00:29
                                        Well put 4Tigs - Happy New Year for you also brother as '24 - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 12:28:30
                                             Happy New Year rask - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/28 12:41:54
     As ummmm states, the cause of the war was - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 11:00:57
          RE: As ummmm states, the cause of the war was - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:03:18
               another hot take (nm) - Sal CMSU - 12/28 11:33:26
               Its always racism or abortion for a democrat - RHAYWORTH MU - 12/28 11:08:39
                    RE: Its always racism or abortion for a democrat - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:20:08
               lol no (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 11:06:45
               At the decision of 9 superior beings............ - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 11:06:20
     Welcome to 160 years ago - Spanky KU - 12/28 11:00:44
          And republicans are the party of the draft - El-ahrairah BAMA - 12/28 11:14:19
               You is dumb - Spanky KU - 12/28 11:39:49
          RE: Welcome to 160 years ago - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:03:55
               Nothing in my post was incorrect. Nothing!(nm) - Spanky KU - 12/28 11:07:54
                    RE: Nothing in my post was incorrect. Nothing!(nm) - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:11:16
                         The party that keeps the Black man in chains has not changed - Spanky KU - 12/28 11:23:28
     And the problem is obscure CRT, right. - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 10:53:57
          they can't and shouldn't be trusted (nm) - Sal CMSU - 12/28 11:01:23
               You mean like demanding intense cleaning of schools - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 11:03:16
                    we need to trust that science, BBB (nm) - Sal CMSU - 12/28 11:05:56
          There is nothing obscure about CRT - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 10:57:46
               Tell me where it is taught friend(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 11:25:15
                    So before we go off on one of your meaningless tangents - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 12:01:33
                         I nowhere "sprang" to its defense, unless of course by "it" - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 12:32:44
                              So now it is an honest teaching versus - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 12:35:04
                                   Define your terms bud(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 13:06:13
                                        You introduced “honest” - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 13:56:56
                                             Honest appraisal of history friend shows the white man has - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 14:08:09
                                                  "That is what CRT states friend" - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 14:24:35
                                                       JFC, you are dense - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 15:03:10
                                                            LOL! If the "theory" isn't taught now - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 15:09:20
                    schools, universities, corporations, etc. - Sal CMSU - 12/28 11:32:56
                         Search it dipsht - raskolnikov MU - 12/28 12:04:13
                              Haven't you stated repeatedly you miss the old - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 14:27:05
               RE: There is nothing obscure about CRT - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:05:00
                    lol "just history" (nm) - Sal CMSU - 12/28 11:31:33
               he certainly doesn't know what self-determination, - pickle MU - 12/28 10:59:42
     RE: Nikki Haley - profile in cowardice - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 10:52:43
          RE: Nikki Haley - profile in cowardice - BH O'bonga MU - 12/28 10:57:29
               RE: Nikki Haley - profile in cowardice - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:08:19
                    The ugly truth is white Southerners didn't want to share - BH O'bonga MU - 12/28 11:22:07
     The cause of the War Between States was political - ummmm MU - 12/28 10:37:56
     It wasn't about slavery (nm) - Sal CMSU - 12/28 10:24:45
          LOL - JG MU - 12/28 12:57:19
               what should happen with the south, JG? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 12/28 16:04:11
          ^^^^^^false - diaclone ISU - 12/28 10:33:46
     Because Rs want to bring slavery back, duh(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 12/28 10:24:36
     this isn't a big deal - JayHoaxH8r MU - 12/28 10:15:25
          I agree. I don't like haley and as of now i wouldn't vote - hokie VT - 12/28 10:24:08
               Slavery was going to die its own death. Free labor in the - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/28 11:12:21
               RE: I agree. I don't like haley and as of now i wouldn't vote - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 10:56:16
                    Craftsmen and laborers from the north didn't like competing - BH O'bonga MU - 12/28 11:02:25
                         RE: Craftsmen and laborers from the north didn't like competing - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:07:25
               there was only one cause and reason. slavery was not it (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 10:48:40
          She’s running for Presisent of all the people, not - namres MU - 12/28 10:21:51
          a candidate that can't tell the truth is a big dieal? - diaclone ISU - 12/28 10:19:26
               Then. Then lying Biden is out for you as well - tman MU - 12/28 10:37:51
               slavery wasn't the cause - pickle MU - 12/28 10:23:11
               States rights issues were the cause of the Civil War - JayHoaxH8r MU - 12/28 10:20:40
                    RE: States rights issues were the cause of the Civil War - sarasotatiger MU - 12/28 11:02:19
                    False - diaclone ISU - 12/28 10:25:06
                         lol - 90Tiger STL - 12/28 11:04:13
                         Lincoln's first inaugural address: - ummmm MU - 12/28 10:40:42
                              RE: Lincoln's first inaugural address: - KC rules MU - 12/28 10:49:08
                                   Who said anything about explaining all history? - ummmm MU - 12/28 10:52:49
                                        He had no purpose to not interfere - KC rules MU - 12/28 10:59:42
                                             It's not what "I think". I'm posting the express motivations - ummmm MU - 12/28 11:07:08
                                                  There's also more than I originally posted: - ummmm MU - 12/28 11:15:45
                                                       Did FIJI write that? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/28 15:18:22
                                             maybe read the thread first (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 11:02:42
                                                  RE: maybe read the thread first (nm) - KC rules MU - 12/28 11:06:27
                                                       nobody stated nor implied that (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/28 15:18:53
                                                       no one in this thread made that assumption (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 12:02:17
                         it may have been a reason for secession - pickle MU - 12/28 10:27:48
                              bullshyte - diaclone ISU - 12/28 10:33:01
                                   it wasn't. you can even read Lincoln's words - pickle MU - 12/28 10:36:22
                         The party of Wallace and Byrd made it about slavery(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 12/28 10:26:27
                              no go read the ariticles of cession of the confederate state - diaclone ISU - 12/28 10:35:40
                                   you're confusing the cause of secession and the direct - 90Tiger STL - 12/28 11:08:01
                                   secession =/= war (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 10:36:37




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