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Posted on: February 24, 2023 at 08:55:45 CT
DesertTiger MU
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Christians should be following much of the Torah.

I know it's an unpopular opinion in western Christianity, but if I start struggling with it I go back to Jesus' statement in Matthew 5:17-18 (pasted at the end of my response for readers convenience).

Some portions of the 'law'
- are untenable/not possible right now - no temple, so no offering sacrifices, no Levitical priests currently exist, etc
- have been nullified due to Christs' death on the cross (no more sin atonement sacrifices necessary),
- are followed without realizing it - the basic concepts of our criminal justice system are rooted in many of the same concepts behind the societal laws and punishments of the Torah. We don't acknowledge this because it's what we grow up with in America, but in many countries the justice system bears no resemblance to what God laid out originally for His people.

We (non-Jewish believers) are grafted into the covenant God made with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob spiritually, and thus I believe to be MOST obedient to God, we should try as best to follow the Torah as possible.

Almost all of Jesus' words during his ministry are direct quotes or sourced from the Torah, if He was building a 'new' religion detached from the Torah entirely, why wouldn't he come up with his own source material?

What are we supposed to do? Love God.

How do we love God? Obey Him...that's clear throughout the entire canon of scripture, old and new testament.

How do we obey Him/what do we obey? His law/regulations.



NIV - Mat 5:17  "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 
Mat 5:18  For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 
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Bible Thumpers: Is Levitical law something - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/24 07:59:40
     No - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/24 09:17:02
          What's the separation of the moral and ceremonial law?(nm) - dangertim MU - 2/24 09:18:59
               Moral law is laid out pretty well in the 10 Commandments - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/24 10:11:49
                    when did they all say "moral law only guys - forget - dangertim MU - 2/24 10:52:42
                         Acts and Colossians speak to it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/24 11:05:25
                              sabbath day was outlined in the 10 commandments. - dangertim MU - 2/24 11:25:37
                                   And the sabbath is still observed - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/24 13:29:43
                                        what? - dangertim MU - 2/24 14:37:00
                                             Remembering the sabbath is in the Top 10 list - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/24 14:59:52
               That's the direction i was going - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/24 10:08:35
                    you've actually stumbled upon a logicall fallacy within - dangertim MU - 2/24 10:11:42
                         Which old testament laws - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/24 10:19:16
                              See my answer alone. They were intended for the - dangertim MU - 2/24 10:53:17
     in many ways I believe - DesertTiger MU - 2/24 08:55:45
          I agree that we're grafted into the covenant made to - dangertim MU - 2/24 09:06:25
               the root of that word does not mean complete - DesertTiger MU - 2/24 09:17:12
                    Did the Apostle Paul "de-jew" Christianity?(nm) - dangertim MU - 2/24 09:18:17
                         I'm not sure what you're asking - DesertTiger MU - 2/24 09:25:09
                              His letters to Romans and Galatians - dangertim MU - 2/24 09:52:30
                                   the difference is that - DesertTiger MU - 2/24 10:09:03
                                        if you go back to "obeying the law" you are still then - dangertim MU - 2/24 10:14:11
                                             Yes, we should please God by obeying the law - DesertTiger MU - 2/24 10:24:41
                                                  Ok, well, at least I know where you're coming from. - dangertim MU - 2/24 10:54:56
     No we should follow Jesus who said among other things - Nohawks KC - 2/24 08:43:37
          Random question. What law from the first 5 are we - dangertim MU - 2/24 08:45:08
               I would say those that follow or coincide with the natural - Nohawks KC - 2/24 08:50:14
                    Interesting - I'm not completely on board, but I - dangertim MU - 2/24 08:53:28
          is that a no? - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/24 08:44:46
               It's an admonition to look at scripture in context - Nohawks KC - 2/24 08:45:39
                    It's a simple yes or no question - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/24 08:52:16
                         Don't be a putz. You're embarrassing yourself - Nohawks KC - 2/24 08:56:17
                              I asked if levitical law should be followed - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/24 09:05:20
                                   And you were asked this question - Nohawks KC - 2/24 09:14:30
                                   The 10 commandments are in Exodus and then - dangertim MU - 2/24 09:11:39
                                        and leviticus 19 - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/24 09:15:41
                                             so it was repeated there (partially). - dangertim MU - 2/24 09:16:06
                                                  correct - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/24 09:29:52
                                                       I've heard there were supposed to be 15. - dangertim MU - 2/24 09:52:55
                                                            Moses man - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/24 10:05:06
     Absolutely not, Jesus said so (but there are a lot of - dangertim MU - 2/24 08:34:01
     not a bible thumper but I'll bite - Th8tnTiger MU - 2/24 08:09:50
          I'm just asking if the Bible's - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/24 08:10:53
               it was to the Jews prior to 70 A.D.(nm) - dangertim MU - 2/24 08:34:30
               I'm sure it is to some - Th8tnTiger MU - 2/24 08:14:53




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