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I appreciate the way you worded it. Two people believing in

Posted on: September 28, 2022 at 14:02:55 CT

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natural rights don't have to agree on everything. Those that don't want to make right to self ownership cut and dried and that a fetus's rights are being violated. I can understand that sentiment, yet the mother is also entitled to ownership of her body. It's tricky. I don't think abortion is a violation of natural rights because of the parasitic relationship of the fetus and the mother. But I also and not for or would ever advocate anyone to get an abortion.

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who, if not you, has a superior claim to your life, body, - pickle MU

- 9/28 12:39:05

First question. Why is this not on the shack (nm) - tman MU - 9/28 13:27:16

So abortion is a violation of the rights of the unborn child - JeffB MU

- 9/28 13:22:01

I believe in natural rights. - dangertim MU

- 9/28 13:31:37

I appreciate the way you worded it. Two people believing in - kmawv8 MU - 9/28 14:02:55

The mother's right to self-ownership does not include - JeffB MU

- 9/28 14:50:28

incorrect (nm) - ashtray UF - 9/28 15:47:58

That adage is ignoring the very point in my post. A man - kmawv8 MU - 9/28 15:18:55

It's a tricky subject indeed. I know the Ashtray/pickle - dangertim MU

- 9/28 14:29:18

My issue is this - meatiger MU - 9/28 15:07:51

Don't you think expressing the fetus as a parasite has - Logan BAMA - 9/28 14:11:49

biologically, there isn't a negative connotation(nm) - cnk ATL - 9/28 14:31:17

I think that's where conservatives miss the boat... - Logan BAMA - 9/28 14:56:29

I think the common definition does have a negative - cnk ATL - 9/28 15:32:23

My favorite - meatiger MU - 9/28 15:36:11

I think the emotion you see is anger... - Logan BAMA - 9/28 15:55:15

I see data constantly misrepresented by both left and right - meatiger MU - 9/28 16:09:14

I think conservatives that don't show empathy - Logan BAMA - 9/28 15:52:03

you are correct that - meatiger MU - 9/28 15:54:37

How are you defining conservatives - meatiger MU - 9/28 15:12:25

In this case... - Logan BAMA - 9/28 15:20:33

How does one define long time ago socially traditional - meatiger MU - 9/28 15:34:51

The values set forth by my parents and the generations - Logan BAMA - 9/28 16:00:31

That is nonsensical(nm) - meatiger MU - 9/28 16:06:47

Why? (nm) - Logan BAMA - 9/28 16:54:19

There is nothing of detail in what you said - meatiger MU - 9/28 17:33:29

Imo...I've never seen a free society... - Logan BAMA - 9/28 17:53:46

no, it is a parasitic relationship - pickle MU

- 9/28 14:13:50

I didn't say it wasn't a host relationship. Just know - Logan BAMA - 9/28 14:16:19

then i have no idea what your issue is - pickle MU

- 9/28 14:44:39

I have no issue with it...just interjecting a point of view. - Logan BAMA - 9/28 14:59:04

oh, you’re about civility now? (nm) - pickle MU

- 9/28 15:18:20

I see you're still not. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 9/28 15:21:38

I think you put it better than he put it. You have my vote(nm) - Toger STL - 9/28 14:07:07

you posted this already, dumb@$$ - Spanky KU - 9/28 13:12:33

All those posts and not a single person that opposes his - kmawv8 MU - 9/28 13:23:12

Pickle doesn't engage in conversation or answer - tman MU - 9/28 13:26:09

wrong (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 9/28 13:39:38

I have a question pending. We will see(nm) - tman MU - 9/28 13:40:16

but you're a troll - SwampTiger MU - 9/28 13:44:38

Please. You dodge as well as he does - tman MU - 9/28 13:45:42

what have I dodged? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 9/28 13:46:24

You just dodged the subject. I stated Pickle doesn't answer - tman MU - 9/28 13:48:58

lol troll man - SwampTiger MU - 9/28 13:51:02

he’s also stupid (nm) - pickle MU

- 9/28 13:57:49

You still haven't answered(nm) - tman MU - 9/28 14:04:36

You dodged. Just another liberal that gets called out - tman MU - 9/28 13:52:02

don't feed the troll (nm) - ashtray UF - 9/28 13:48:32

Another troll comes Iin. (nm) - tman MU - 9/28 13:49:41

and you still haven't answered the question - ashtray UF - 9/28 13:22:22

I didn't see your answer in any of those. Weak tactic.(nm) - Toger STL - 9/28 13:20:29

BOAISY (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 9/28 13:09:12

Who cares. When I say this I seriously mean who the f*ck - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/28 13:01:04

smart and sane people - ashtray UF - 9/28 13:22:50

How would you not care about rights? - meatiger MU - 9/28 13:09:42

I don't care about the idiots concept of rights, that he - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/28 13:13:35

do you believe in rights or not?(nm) - meatiger MU - 9/28 13:19:18

Of course I do. But they are a social construct not - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/28 13:26:10

incorrect. they are as inherent to humans - pickle MU

- 9/28 13:55:27

wrong (nm) - ashtray UF - 9/28 13:46:38

So you think rights of people - meatiger MU - 9/28 13:27:25

Are you this stupid? Yes, rights are different here than - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/28 13:36:35

i can't believe you're allowed to teach (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 9/28 17:40:17

incorrect. and none of what you listed are rights (nm) - pickle MU

- 9/28 13:56:21

this is a very dumb post - ashtray UF - 9/28 13:47:22

this is where DH, Spanky, and 4tigs - meatiger MU - 9/28 13:49:55

has spanky even commented on it? - SwampTiger MU - 9/28 13:55:17

on rights I do not know - meatiger MU - 9/28 13:58:37

they aren't even close - ashtray UF - 9/28 13:50:54

as a previous ignorant person - meatiger MU - 9/28 14:02:14

So you believe that rights are granted by power - meatiger MU - 9/28 13:39:46

Did they have rights? I doubt that slaves on the plantation - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/28 13:43:16

yes, every human past, present, and future - pickle MU

- 9/28 14:01:20

so why did they fight for their freedom - meatiger MU - 9/28 13:46:53

what about Thomas Jefferson et al? do you care about - SwampTiger MU - 9/28 13:16:43

i’ve given proof many times - pickle MU

- 9/28 13:15:32

Not once have you proven them. You have offered - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/28 13:27:38

that’s incorrect. i’ve given proof many times (nm) - pickle MU

- 9/28 13:47:32

Perhaps if you cared, you wouldn’t talk out of your - kmawv8 MU - 9/28 13:05:38

an understanding of natural rights is important - pickle MU

- 9/28 13:04:47

And not politics. Post it on the shack (nm) - tman MU - 9/28 13:06:28

Correct, this is the R vs D smack board(nm) - dangertim MU

- 9/28 13:13:47

You're just here to get your D smacked (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 9/28 13:15:23

Just waiting for bluesox to show up(nm) - dangertim MU

- 9/28 13:17:58

How is it not about politics - meatiger MU - 9/28 13:10:55

he’s just a troll - pickle MU

- 9/28 13:11:40

You mentioned nothing about politics in the OP - tman MU - 9/28 13:32:18

Now you're just being dumb(nm) - dangertim MU

- 9/28 13:34:55

he's just being himself (nm) - ashtray UF - 9/28 13:49:14

Read the Op. It has nothing to do with politics - tman MU - 9/28 13:36:24

The question of rights was literally the impetus for the - dangertim MU

- 9/28 14:31:14

Then prove their existence.(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/28 13:06:25

answer the question - pickle MU

- 9/28 13:08:29

Glad to as soon as you offer proof of natural rights. - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/28 13:15:58

who cares if they are natural or not - meatiger MU - 9/28 13:26:31

I don’t think you know what the word demand means - pickle MU

- 9/28 13:19:05

"Answer the question" is most definitely a demand. - DHighlander NWMSU - 9/28 13:39:43

do you have short term memory loss? - pickle MU

- 9/28 13:48:41

when my mind is uncertain my body decides - cnk ATL - 9/28 12:44:22

Wrong board. Why won't you follow the guidelines you - tman MU - 9/28 12:40:56

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