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That's some very circular logic

Posted on: August 9, 2022 at 12:58:51 CT
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You just said the state cannot and should not have a role in protecting you. Now you're admitting that the laws and courts allow them to protect you. And somehow that supports your viewpoint?
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Welcome to all the posters who now understand that - dangertim MU - 8/9 10:19:59
     That is not entirely incorrect - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/9 10:36:22
          RE: That is not entirely incorrect - *M* KC - 8/9 10:40:54
          Even after the last 3 years - meatiger MU - 8/9 10:40:43
          Given their wisdom, and knowledge of human nature - GA Tiger MU - 8/9 10:39:27
               they didn’t (nm) - pickle MU - 8/9 10:48:03
               Totally agree - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 8/9 10:45:45
                    Wait, pic disagreed with me. I'm shocked I tell you.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 8/9 13:02:50
          it is 100% correct (nm) - pickle MU - 8/9 10:39:15
               "The state does not protect you"? IOW, there are - GA Tiger MU - 8/9 10:41:33
                    so there are no murders or killings at all - pickle MU - 8/9 10:47:33
                         But you never said how or why I'm wrong. And - GA Tiger MU - 8/9 10:59:26
                              i just did, you idiot (nm) - pickle MU - 8/9 11:00:08
                    The State is reactionary - meatiger MU - 8/9 10:46:11
     That is a bit overstated. Which will mean - GA Tiger MU - 8/9 10:31:29
          it wasn’t - pickle MU - 8/9 10:40:44
     What would you do if your neighbor - Doc_Nice MU - 8/9 10:31:13
          I would resolve it(nm) - dangertim MU - 8/9 10:43:46
               and check out my hook - pickle MU - 8/9 10:55:30
          if it were me, i’d speak with him - pickle MU - 8/9 10:40:14
               Ok, but that doesn't work, and he continues to infringe - Mormad MU - 8/9 10:56:51
                    then i’d sue (nm) - pickle MU - 8/9 11:06:50
                         Isn't that what happens now? - Doc_Nice MU - 8/9 11:13:52
                              yes, people do bring suits against each other today - pickle MU - 8/9 11:20:50
                                   "I am suing you for violating city ordinance 501.3C"(nm) - dangertim MU - 8/9 11:32:16
                                   How do you win a suit if something is not against the law?(nm) - Doc_Nice MU - 8/9 11:31:17
                                        are you serious? - pickle MU - 8/9 11:48:44
                                        for damages. - dangertim MU - 8/9 11:33:25
                                             Yes, in the doctors case, he is infringing on your rights - Doc_Nice MU - 8/9 11:53:44
                                                  rights aren't established by law. - dangertim MU - 8/9 12:16:38
                                                       Good luck with that in court - Doc_Nice MU - 8/9 12:36:52
                                                            good luck with what? - pickle MU - 8/9 13:20:08
                                                                 I'm not the one who said it did(nm) - Doc_Nice MU - 8/9 13:27:02
                                                                      “the declaration of independence gives me rights” - pickle MU - 8/9 14:15:15
                                                                           Even in written form where sarcasm is harder to detect - Doc_Nice MU - 8/9 16:09:36
                                                            that's quite the strawman(nm) - dangertim MU - 8/9 12:48:30
                                                                 Perhaps it's a straw man but I'm trying to figure out how to - Doc_Nice MU - 8/9 12:53:02
                                                                      Fantasyland? It happens every day right now (nm) - pickle MU - 8/9 13:20:39
                                                                           It should be easy to find an example then(nm) - Doc_Nice MU - 8/9 13:26:07
                                                                      you don't get it. - dangertim MU - 8/9 12:58:29
                                                                           Not all laws require criminal prosecution to enforce - Doc_Nice MU - 8/9 12:59:55
                                                  Rights are not created by law nor are they regulated - pickle MU - 8/9 12:05:18
                                                       Many of our rights are derived from "natural law" but they - Doc_Nice MU - 8/9 12:39:42
                              what do govt regulations have to do with suing someone - dangertim MU - 8/9 11:17:18
                                   How would you win the suit if they weren't breaking the law? - Doc_Nice MU - 8/9 11:32:16
                                        how can you win a suit against a doctor for botching - dangertim MU - 8/9 12:18:41
                                             Alex Jones broke laws against defamation - Doc_Nice MU - 8/9 12:51:46
                                                  no, he was prosecuted and persecuted for free speech - pickle MU - 8/9 13:21:49
                                                       No, literally, he was sued for defamation under Texas law(nm) - Doc_Nice MU - 8/9 13:25:34
                                                            no. see OP (nm) - pickle MU - 8/9 14:16:22
                                                                 What does OP mean?(nm) - Doc_Nice MU - 8/9 16:07:32
                                                  again, you are completely missing the point of this entire - dangertim MU - 8/9 12:55:22
                                                       That's some very circular logic - Doc_Nice MU - 8/9 12:58:51
                                        if the arbiter, mediator, or jury agrees so - pickle MU - 8/9 12:07:03
                                             That's not how courts work - Doc_Nice MU - 8/9 12:54:01
                                   Who grants the trier of fact the authority to enforce - Mormad MU - 8/9 11:21:46
                                        what exactly is your point in relation to the OP? - pickle MU - 8/9 11:25:12
                                             That it's clearly wrong. In the case of Individual A vs B - Mormad MU - 8/9 11:41:51
                                                  there is nothing wrong with what OP said at all - pickle MU - 8/9 11:50:35
                                                       if those rights are in competition - Mormad MU - 8/9 11:59:01
                                                            rights are not and cannot be in competition - pickle MU - 8/9 12:04:34
                                                                 Or your premise is illogical and flawed from the outset - Mormad MU - 8/9 12:06:42
                                                                      It isn’t wrong at all nor is it illogical - pickle MU - 8/9 12:07:45
                                                                           In the situation posited, you have a right - Mormad MU - 8/9 12:16:05
                                                                                there is no such right - pickle MU - 8/9 12:25:10
                                                       When two people have competing rights - Doc_Nice MU - 8/9 11:55:06
                                                            rights are not in competition - pickle MU - 8/9 12:03:54
                                                                 Sometimes people agree to private resolution - Doc_Nice MU - 8/9 12:56:48
                                                                      your post is entirely incorrect (nm) - pickle MU - 8/9 13:22:54
                                                                           Good argument - Doc_Nice MU - 8/9 13:26:29
                                   he has no clue what he’s even trying to argue - pickle MU - 8/9 11:21:25
     Those who believe they understand that - *M* KC - 8/9 10:20:59
          RE: Those who believe they understand that - dangertim MU - 8/9 10:30:43




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