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Sorry, no sale. In your own post it says "This suggests"

Posted on: June 30, 2022 at 11:15:41 CT
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which suggests that others may suggest other suggestions or meaning to the phrase.

In the last sentence of you post it says, "...as calculated to prevent voluntary and beneficial emigrations from Europe to America."

Might it then be ok to prevent NON BENEFICIAL emigrations?

And it has always been my opinion that the document says what it says. If madison meant slaves he should have said slaves. Replacing one term with a more favored term albeit with a different meaning is reckless as well as confusing.

I have posted here multiple times that the constitution says "all person born in the US are citizens". Words to that effect.

That means that despite my wishes, if pregnant maria waddles across the border and before the border patrol can throw her back to the mexican side she gives birth to little pedro....pedro is a US citizen.

That is NOT what the constitution intended according to and suggested by most learned opinions. However IT IS what the constitution says.

Difficult to read the mind of someone dead for centuries. And if that is what HE INTENDED, or is he speaking for the intensions of all the signers of the constitution and all who voted for the amendment...or just himself?

While there was not enough diversity in government in the 18 century by today's definition as there were no wise latinas and idiot affirmative action black women making decisions for us there was great diversity of thought and ideology.

Just because one of our founders or a few of our signers wrote notes to (themselves?) days or years after an event does not mean he is speaking for the entire government.
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     Yes, a few years ago. Will there be a test? nm - hokie VT - 6/30 10:03:38
          Pickle is keeping a spreadsheet (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 6/30 10:05:28
               Totally off topic question - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/30 10:06:45
                    I'd read.(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 6/30 10:07:49
          Where is immigration in the Constitution? - Wilco MU - 6/30 10:05:16
               The Migration and Importation Clause - Spanky KU - 6/30 10:17:18
                    Nice catch spanky. The reason for SCOTUS is because there - hokie VT - 6/30 10:27:29
                         The clause cited by Spanky involved slaves. Not even - ummmm MU - 6/30 10:35:06
                              A slave is not a migrant - Spanky KU - 6/30 10:43:05
                                   Okay, but that doesn't change the widely accepted original - ummmm MU - 6/30 10:45:37
                                        Words have meaning and the 1803 Congress used that clause - Spanky KU - 6/30 11:08:03
                                        When we use terms like "widely accepted intent" of the - hokie VT - 6/30 10:59:55
                                             The ratification debates were recorded (nm) - Wilco MU - 6/30 11:15:06
                                                  Send us that transcript(nm) - Spanky KU - 6/30 11:38:39
                                             I'm not talking about scholars. I'm talking about the actual - ummmm MU - 6/30 11:02:59
                                                  Southern states disagreed that is was limited to the slave - Spanky KU - 6/30 11:47:58
                                                  this settles it - ashtray UF - 6/30 11:17:04
                                                  Sorry, no sale. In your own post it says "This suggests" - hokie VT - 6/30 11:15:41
                                                       Here's source material from Madison (not too hard to - ummmm MU - 6/30 11:27:23
                                                            You say i've never heard of this clause and then you say in - hokie VT - 6/30 11:37:42
                                                                 Yes, you had not heard of this clause before today - ummmm MU - 6/30 11:46:42
                                                                      this all goes to show that the so-called "conservatives" - ashtray UF - 6/30 11:53:54
                                                                      Shouldn't you look at EVERYONE'S writing and not just - hokie VT - 6/30 11:53:27
                                                                           You said it after acknowledging immigration - pickle MU - 6/30 13:41:17
                                                                           You should look at everyone's writings who framed and - ummmm MU - 6/30 12:08:15
                                                       The Constitution does not say all persons born in the US - Wilco MU - 6/30 11:17:44
                         He’s wrong, though. - Wilco MU - 6/30 10:30:17
                              Nope(nm) - Spanky KU - 6/30 10:43:50
               I don't believe it's there. Your point....? Please don't - hokie VT - 6/30 10:12:36
                    Then that means it’s a power reserved to the states - Wilco MU - 6/30 10:15:52
                         So if texas wanted a border wall and california wanted no - hokie VT - 6/30 10:18:01
                              I don’t know what you mean by “that should work” - Wilco MU - 6/30 10:20:46
                              that's irrelevant to the fact that it's unconstiutional - ashtray UF - 6/30 10:20:22
          You do realize this is a double handle, right? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/30 10:04:59
               Can't be. Using a double handle to get around a mobbing - Tigrrrr! MU - 6/30 10:07:05
                    Pretty ironic to be preaching property rights - mizzouSECedes STL - 6/30 10:10:04
                         Dob't tell me i'm actually engaging pinkle when i respond to - hokie VT - 6/30 10:15:41
                              You are (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 6/30 10:20:45
                              He's not even hiding it. (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 6/30 10:17:48
               Didn't know? Who is it? Doesn't seem worth talking - hokie VT - 6/30 10:06:26
                    Or the real thing - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/30 10:07:13
                         Gotta admit, his posts do have that stench about them. nm - hokie VT - 6/30 10:08:10
                              Since you have read the Constitution - Wilco MU - 6/30 10:09:53
                                   Answered above. Try not to be an ass. nm - hokie VT - 6/30 10:13:13
                                        I’m not the one being abrasive - Wilco MU - 6/30 10:17:07
                                             People i trust have outed you. We're done here. nm - hokie VT - 6/30 10:18:46
                                                  Are you afraid of discussion? (nm) - Wilco MU - 6/30 10:21:28
                                                  lol 🍪 (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 6/30 10:19:42
                                                  lol... run away coward (nm) - ashtray UF - 6/30 10:19:03
          This Board is a test. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/30 10:04:20




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