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Posted on: June 30, 2022 at 11:02:59 CT
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framers/ratifiers, including the father of the constitution himself:

James Madison similarly argued that the Clause was intended to protect the slave trade against limitation prior to 1808, and that its phrasing was due to "scruples against admitting the term 'slaves' into the Instrument. Hence the descriptive phrase 'migration or importation of persons;' the term migration allowing those who were scrupulous of acknowledging expressly a property in human beings, to view imported persons as a species of emigrants, while others might apply the same term to foreign malefactors sent or coming into the country." This suggests it is likely that the term "migration" was included only in order to avoid direct reference to slavery, and did not imply any general congressional power to restrict migration. In Federalist 42, Madison decried "[a]ttempts [that] have been made to pervert this clause into an objection against the Constitution, by representing it…as calculated to prevent voluntary and beneficial emigrations from Europe to America."
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     Yes, a few years ago. Will there be a test? nm - hokie VT - 6/30 10:03:38
          Pickle is keeping a spreadsheet (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 6/30 10:05:28
               Totally off topic question - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/30 10:06:45
                    I'd read.(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 6/30 10:07:49
          Where is immigration in the Constitution? - Wilco MU - 6/30 10:05:16
               The Migration and Importation Clause - Spanky KU - 6/30 10:17:18
                    Nice catch spanky. The reason for SCOTUS is because there - hokie VT - 6/30 10:27:29
                         The clause cited by Spanky involved slaves. Not even - ummmm MU - 6/30 10:35:06
                              A slave is not a migrant - Spanky KU - 6/30 10:43:05
                                   Okay, but that doesn't change the widely accepted original - ummmm MU - 6/30 10:45:37
                                        Words have meaning and the 1803 Congress used that clause - Spanky KU - 6/30 11:08:03
                                        When we use terms like "widely accepted intent" of the - hokie VT - 6/30 10:59:55
                                             The ratification debates were recorded (nm) - Wilco MU - 6/30 11:15:06
                                                  Send us that transcript(nm) - Spanky KU - 6/30 11:38:39
                                             I'm not talking about scholars. I'm talking about the actual - ummmm MU - 6/30 11:02:59
                                                  Southern states disagreed that is was limited to the slave - Spanky KU - 6/30 11:47:58
                                                  this settles it - ashtray UF - 6/30 11:17:04
                                                  Sorry, no sale. In your own post it says "This suggests" - hokie VT - 6/30 11:15:41
                                                       Here's source material from Madison (not too hard to - ummmm MU - 6/30 11:27:23
                                                            You say i've never heard of this clause and then you say in - hokie VT - 6/30 11:37:42
                                                                 Yes, you had not heard of this clause before today - ummmm MU - 6/30 11:46:42
                                                                      this all goes to show that the so-called "conservatives" - ashtray UF - 6/30 11:53:54
                                                                      Shouldn't you look at EVERYONE'S writing and not just - hokie VT - 6/30 11:53:27
                                                                           You said it after acknowledging immigration - pickle MU - 6/30 13:41:17
                                                                           You should look at everyone's writings who framed and - ummmm MU - 6/30 12:08:15
                                                       The Constitution does not say all persons born in the US - Wilco MU - 6/30 11:17:44
                         He’s wrong, though. - Wilco MU - 6/30 10:30:17
                              Nope(nm) - Spanky KU - 6/30 10:43:50
               I don't believe it's there. Your point....? Please don't - hokie VT - 6/30 10:12:36
                    Then that means it’s a power reserved to the states - Wilco MU - 6/30 10:15:52
                         So if texas wanted a border wall and california wanted no - hokie VT - 6/30 10:18:01
                              I don’t know what you mean by “that should work” - Wilco MU - 6/30 10:20:46
                              that's irrelevant to the fact that it's unconstiutional - ashtray UF - 6/30 10:20:22
          You do realize this is a double handle, right? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/30 10:04:59
               Can't be. Using a double handle to get around a mobbing - Tigrrrr! MU - 6/30 10:07:05
                    Pretty ironic to be preaching property rights - mizzouSECedes STL - 6/30 10:10:04
                         Dob't tell me i'm actually engaging pinkle when i respond to - hokie VT - 6/30 10:15:41
                              You are (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 6/30 10:20:45
                              He's not even hiding it. (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 6/30 10:17:48
               Didn't know? Who is it? Doesn't seem worth talking - hokie VT - 6/30 10:06:26
                    Or the real thing - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/30 10:07:13
                         Gotta admit, his posts do have that stench about them. nm - hokie VT - 6/30 10:08:10
                              Since you have read the Constitution - Wilco MU - 6/30 10:09:53
                                   Answered above. Try not to be an ass. nm - hokie VT - 6/30 10:13:13
                                        I’m not the one being abrasive - Wilco MU - 6/30 10:17:07
                                             People i trust have outed you. We're done here. nm - hokie VT - 6/30 10:18:46
                                                  Are you afraid of discussion? (nm) - Wilco MU - 6/30 10:21:28
                                                  lol 🍪 (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 6/30 10:19:42
                                                  lol... run away coward (nm) - ashtray UF - 6/30 10:19:03
          This Board is a test. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 6/30 10:04:20




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