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I don't think so when we are dealing on a world stage

Posted on: March 11, 2022 at 13:59:17 CT

4TigersinMichigan MU

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with markets that are not at all capitalistic. Oil prices are determined by all types of forces from all forms of economic models. Our government deals with OPEC as they should. And I have no issue with that. I would hope they do and hope the strike the best conditions possible for US businesses and US consumers. But, the should not strike a deal for Exxon Mobile that would not apply to any other US interest in that industry.

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so according to 4smugs - meatiger MU - 3/11 12:26:57

I guess in simpleton's terms, one of the few things your are - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 12:35:08

yes..I put it in simple terms - meatiger MU - 3/11 13:57:11

That is definitely not an acceptable or desirable goal of - ummmm MU - 3/11 12:43:43

I never said they should help select companies - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 12:46:52

RE: I never said they should help select companies - ummmm MU - 3/11 12:47:34

Yes - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 12:50:19

Correct, "not all companies compete in global markets" - ummmm MU - 3/11 12:51:19

Because part of the role of our government is in negotiating - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 12:52:12

so you do support gvmt helping select companies, when you - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 13:24:31

No, they should not support select companies - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 13:29:06

I think you're misunderstanding or just being a troll - kmawv8 MU - 3/11 13:41:52

correct. I believe he's intentionally ignoring the implied - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 15:25:23

I am never dishonest - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 15:37:00

then you suffer cognitive dissonance (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 15:41:57

I thought I was simply dishonest - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 15:44:42

read carefully here: - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 16:00:37

Why don't you read carefully here - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 16:06:19

You're either dishonest or you don't understand that - kmawv8 MU - 3/11 16:11:52

It's benefitting every American who uses energy - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 16:13:57

because it's irrelevant to the discussion, which is whether - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 16:18:03

And Trump did nothing to pit one American company against - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 16:21:52

He completely wrecked the shale industry - kmawv8 MU - 3/11 16:32:15

Of course the low pricing wasn't all his doing - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 16:35:34

Lol, wow. - kmawv8 MU - 3/11 20:30:13

he's not clueless. He's arrogant and fixed in his - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 20:34:23

holy sht. seriously? (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/11 20:21:43

It wasn't capitalistic (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 16:44:46

What is benefitting every American? - kmawv8 MU - 3/11 16:16:09

Strong energy policy that Trump worked out that kept - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 16:17:19

The energy sector has always been heavily regulated. - kmawv8 MU - 3/11 16:20:16

This had nothing to do with US oil industry regulation - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 16:22:40

this is simple. It's either cognitive dissonance or dishones - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 16:09:37

Yes - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 16:11:08

And what I am saying is that it is not an attack on - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 13:50:14

Well.... - kmawv8 MU - 3/11 13:54:01

now he's going to ignore your posts, call you a kook and - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 15:26:51

I ignore three people, and not because they are kooks - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 15:37:57

I'm being an a**hole by pointing out your irrational - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 15:41:39

You didn't say it was irrational - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 15:43:36

He actually gave you a choice - meatiger MU - 3/11 16:01:06

correct. I also said it's one of 2 things, and gave my - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 16:10:13

This is where I read it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 16:13:14

His words - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 16:09:41

"I believe" and you denied it. - kmawv8 MU - 3/11 16:14:47

Why would I care that a bunch of people I often disgree with - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 16:16:12

lol (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 16:18:54

I often disagree with that group of people too. - kmawv8 MU - 3/11 16:18:05

RE: You didn't say it was irrational - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 16:00:51

Funny how you never want to reference your first post - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 16:14:40

4Tigs, my 2 posts aren't mutually exclusive. I claimed that - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 16:19:59

You first post was A - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 16:23:35

gosh, I had a full thought and gave my opinion and then add - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 16:45:37

Your first thought, the one I responded to, was to accuse me - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 16:58:47

you're really strung out here, and yes, I think you're - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 17:39:57

I don't think so when we are dealing on a world stage - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 13:59:17

And that's anti-capitalism whether you think it is or not.(nm) - kmawv8 MU - 3/11 14:01:56

Wrong again. - ummmm MU - 3/11 12:54:41

They don't have the obligation - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 12:55:53

Why? Why is that foolish? - ummmm MU - 3/11 12:59:37

Global markets are not capitalist - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 13:03:30

Then, those companies can pay for their own negotiations. - ummmm MU - 3/11 13:05:08

They should not be striking deals for individual businesses - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 13:06:29

You pinko commies should move to russhie - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 3/11 13:30:14

Well, I will give you that you changed ponies - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 13:30:48

Lashing out again - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 3/11 13:32:27

Pony talk is lashing out? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 13:33:35

Step away from the keyboard, mam'n - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 3/11 13:35:38

I guess so - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 13:39:43

You have little realization of anything - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 3/11 13:42:22

Yeah, no thanks. - kmawv8 MU - 3/11 13:04:44

And they think we're capitalist - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 3/11 12:44:32

We are - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 12:47:58

you're delusional, truly (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 15:27:53

You are absolutely wrong - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 3/11 13:18:57

You are a one trick pony as of late - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 13:21:08

No trick to it. - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 3/11 13:22:51

RE: You are a one trick pony as of late - ashtray UF - 3/11 13:21:38

That's fundamentally wrong. (nm) - ummmm MU - 3/11 12:50:21

It is absolutely not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 12:51:19

Capitalism doesn't comport with govt interference into - ummmm MU - 3/11 12:52:53

The world and global markets are not capitalistic - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 12:55:20

$12 to save you from stepping in these messes in the future: - ummmm MU - 3/11 13:03:46

There is no mess on my end - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 13:08:03

hahaah - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 3/11 13:24:43

No, there absolutely is something wrong with a taxpayer - ummmm MU - 3/11 12:58:27

I support capitalist markets where they exist - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 13:05:13

Then, you don't support capitalism. - ummmm MU - 3/11 13:06:12

There is capitalism in the United States - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 13:09:05

Capitalism really doesn't exist in the US, and the - ummmm MU - 3/11 13:14:47

I would agree we don't have true capitalism - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 13:19:53

you should, but won't, take this moment to rethink - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 15:29:27

It's almost as backwards as Tigrrrr! saying that - kmawv8 MU - 3/11 13:15:52

meat has no capacity to think. don't bother. He's an emotion - TigerFan92 STL - 3/11 12:38:21

Well he's got his hands full - mizzoumurfkc KC - 3/11 12:41:32

I used to think he was young and inexperienced - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 12:39:57

he's not smart, but at least he isn't dishonest like you (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 15:32:41

RE: I used to think he was young and inexperienced - ashtray UF - 3/11 13:21:03

There is not a single poster in this thread that agrees with - kmawv8 MU - 3/11 13:08:45

says who?(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 3/11 19:22:00

you don't count - ashtray UF - 3/11 20:23:13

Apparently, he thought he had me with that one - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 19:24:30

get him talking about God (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 15:33:24

Funny part about that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 15:39:40

I see the people participating in this thread - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 13:10:08

Yes, you read and see what you want to, not what is - kmawv8 MU - 3/11 13:12:09

I always honestly participate - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 13:22:21

Smugs'd it. LOL you're getting beat down - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 3/11 13:23:28

Sounds uncapitalistic - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 3/11 12:34:06

What is uncapitalistic about our government negotiating - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 12:36:02

why are we negotiating for private business? - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 3/11 12:43:14

We aren't - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 12:50:49

then what is gvmt negotiating, exactly? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 15:34:17

Terms that benefit the American people - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/11 15:40:34

that wasn't specific at all (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 3/11 16:01:16

Don't be emotional but - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 3/11 13:19:51

negotiating terms for a global economy is exactly - kmawv8 MU - 3/11 13:10:52

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