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Why hire a guy if you don't expect final four runs?

Posted on: February 15, 2022 at 14:06:27 CT
HissingPrigs77 MU
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I expect final four runs. Why would you hire a coach unless you think they can get you there?
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people have brought up the desire to hire Gregg Marshall - OGT MU - 2/15 11:55:41
     GM's best players loved him. It's the whining little - cal tiger MU - 2/15 17:04:36
     15 yrs ago, Marshall was worth a look, time has past(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 2/15 17:02:33
     You're right. No one suitable out there. So just keep Cuonzo - pinkman MU - 2/15 16:15:04
     What about hiring the next Gregg Marshall? - ERB KC - 2/15 13:49:51
     I'm not sure he'd be as great in the SEC as some think - HissingPrigs77 MU - 2/15 13:44:35
          MU needs to rebuild the program so that it is realistic to - FIJItiger MU - 2/15 14:37:55
          No one expects final four runs from him. How about a team - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/15 14:01:28
               Why hire a guy if you don't expect final four runs? - HissingPrigs77 MU - 2/15 14:06:27
                    Did you expect Final Four runs from any of - FIJItiger MU - 2/15 14:41:44
                         None of them have that capacity, Quin was the only - alwaysright MU - 2/15 18:05:32
                    Because by that metric any coach you hire will be a failure. - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/15 14:15:24
                         Yes, and they are because eventually they get fired if they - HissingPrigs77 MU - 2/15 14:19:15
                              Are they judged by wins and losses or final fours? You - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/15 14:22:31
                                   We're all proud of you for having a job. - HissingPrigs77 MU - 2/15 14:24:04
                                        Way to avoid the question. Are you judging by W/L or Final - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/15 14:26:13
                                             You're misunderstanding. It's that I don't care and it isn't - HissingPrigs77 MU - 2/15 14:36:10
     Marshall is known for recruiting marginal talent and - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/15 12:21:01
          Just a handful of NBA players - ERB KC - 2/15 13:52:41
               They did not pack the house until the Koch brother dumped - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/15 14:05:02
                    That's who we need to sign - Mormad MU - 2/15 14:15:14
                         True.(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/15 14:15:55
          He had some underrated guys that turned out to be - Jeff85 MU - 2/15 12:28:47
               Fran has been doing that at Iowa. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/15 13:04:54
                    Some top 50 players does not cut it at this level. You need - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/15 13:36:12
                         You need 2 guys in the 40-75 range every year and a third - alwaysright MU - 2/15 14:43:29
                              Quin is the only one that’s done that in the last - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/15 14:51:59
                                   Personality of the coach matters more than anything - alwaysright MU - 2/15 18:06:46
                                        Quin did some things in recruiting that - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/15 19:00:37
                         There are four schools in the SEC with more than two top 50 - HissingPrigs77 MU - 2/15 14:17:46
                         You will be frustrated with any coach - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/15 13:41:31
                              There were 13 top 50 recruits signed last year in the SEC - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/15 14:00:08
                                   Mizzou’s path to success isn’t to out recruit - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/15 14:19:12
                                        Almost no one in the SEC has four top 50 guys - HissingPrigs77 MU - 2/15 14:34:41
                                             3-4 is what final 4 teams usually have. - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/15 14:38:53
                                                  Baylor won it all without a single top 50 recruit. - HissingPrigs77 MU - 2/15 14:56:03
                                                       Baylor is the exception - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/15 14:59:23
                                                            You move goalposts faster than Stan Kroenke - HissingPrigs77 MU - 2/15 15:05:28
                                                                 There a reason I have said top 50ish not top 50 - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/15 15:11:02
                                                                      Not could ignore, should ignore those guys. - alwaysright MU - 2/15 18:08:11
                                        Really 3-4 on the roster? How exactly is that different - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/15 14:24:23
                                             You included needing to get top 20 recruits - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/15 14:28:56
                    And most Iowa fans complain about him non stop - Jeff85 MU - 2/15 13:09:25
                         You talk to a lot of iowa fans?(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/15 13:13:44
                              I do. My whole family is from Iowa. They don't like Fran. - HissingPrigs77 MU - 2/15 14:22:35
                              I live really close to the Iowa line and spend a lot - Jeff85 MU - 2/15 13:15:02
               Exactly what I said, he took guys that were not in demand - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/15 12:43:14
                    If you think guys make it to the NBA without elite ability - Jeff85 MU - 2/15 12:49:40
                         And if you think guys make it to the NBA on ability alone - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/15 13:33:21
                              Can’t teach genetics and without them all the development in - Jeff85 MU - 2/15 15:48:08
     why don't you come up with a better option? If we had - SabertoothTiger MU - 2/15 12:13:41
     You're always taking a chance...if you go D2 do you get - Mormad MU - 2/15 12:05:45
          Bo Ryan wasn't hired from D2, MU is the only - FIJItiger MU - 2/15 12:06:46
               Go check NC state. It wasn't even D2(nm) - tman MU - 2/15 13:52:27
                    Neither was Ryan.....he was DIII and then went - Mormad MU - 2/15 14:23:11
               Fine, from the Midwestern Collegiate Conference - Mormad MU - 2/15 12:08:59
                    I would prefer we not hire Kim Anderson, if I get my choice(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/15 12:13:20
                         I'd prefer an upgrade over what we have - Mormad MU - 2/15 12:19:50
                              I'm not sure its realistic that MU will ever finish top 3rd - FIJItiger MU - 2/15 12:22:35
                                   It isn't closed, but it's uphill for sure - Mormad MU - 2/15 12:24:06
                                        Oh, you mean like Gregg Marshall. Agreed (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/15 12:25:35
                                             You missed the part about aggregating talent - Mormad MU - 2/15 12:54:39
                                                  I've not seen any update on him since he stepped away - FIJItiger MU - 2/15 12:59:39
     Lack of talent isn't the issue, not having a good head coach - FIJItiger MU - 2/15 12:05:28
          You will never let this go no matter how wrong you - Jeff85 MU - 2/15 12:25:52
               Like Texas Tech grabbing Bobby Knight(nm) - Mormad MU - 2/15 13:01:24
                    More like Houston grabbing Kelvin Sampson (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/15 14:34:39
               He was 23-8 his last season. If that is decline then sign - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/15 12:45:24
                    Our last 23 win team went to the NIT - Jeff85 MU - 2/15 12:53:52
                         Yes, it was Haith's worst season. It would be CM's best by - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/15 14:02:44
                              They lost at home in the nit with a high level NBA player - Jeff85 MU - 2/15 16:04:54
                              NIT is not better than making the NCAA tournament (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/15 14:20:20
               Agreed. I still like MU bb, and hold on to the slim notion - FIJItiger MU - 2/15 12:27:42
                    Why does every name on this board have to be damaged - Jeff85 MU - 2/15 12:35:05
                         MU is a broken/cratered program - FIJItiger MU - 2/15 13:00:16
                              BS, you think so little of your school you would tolerate - Jeff85 MU - 2/15 13:07:53
                                   No I wouldn't. What Marshall did is not outside the - FIJItiger MU - 2/15 14:33:54
          I think Gregg Marshall would be a terrible choice - OGT MU - 2/15 12:07:14
               So what, I wouldn't say your posting history seems to - FIJItiger MU - 2/15 12:14:22
                    Nor does yours and you just keep on posting - Jeff85 MU - 2/15 12:43:54
                    This. In fact he is a terrible judge of what it takes - SabertoothTiger MU - 2/15 12:15:25
               What do you want at Missouri? Another shytty coach? - Diamond Dave MU - 2/15 12:09:14
                    and to answer your question, I'm not the one pushing for a - OGT MU - 2/15 12:13:04
                         No you aren't. Which is why I'd say your judgement - SabertoothTiger MU - 2/15 12:16:29
                    Marshall is a prima dona. Wants a private jet. Wants $7M/yr - OGT MU - 2/15 12:10:41
          She’s not a sure hire (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/15 12:06:34
     I don't know but it isn't my job to find the guy. You - SabertoothTiger MU - 2/15 12:02:59
          RE: I don't know but it isn't my job to find the guy. You - TBrown MU - 2/15 13:00:17
               Go ahead and waste your time. Most people posting here - SabertoothTiger MU - 2/15 14:55:49
               I watched through the KA era as well. But… - the808bass MU - 2/15 13:51:00




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