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Actually, this is a subthread of that subthread. I had

Posted on: February 2, 2022 at 17:33:24 CT
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responded in this subthread of a subthread regarding the assertion that the professor wasn't a "real libertarian".

My point is that following the principles of 'real libertarians' to their 'logical conclusions' would lead to the belief that 12 year olds, or really any child of any age who asserted their right of self-ownership by leaving home could exercise those same rights of self-ownership to engage in sex with anyone of their own choosing, including adults.

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Libertarian Prof It's a mistake To Think Pedophilia Is Wrong - JeffB MU - 2/2 12:51:13
     Just what the Talmud teaches - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/2 14:43:29
     Sounds like a familiar argument here - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/2 14:29:24
          smug troll - SwampTiger MU - 2/2 14:34:44
               Surely someone on here - meatiger MU - 2/2 14:39:24
     Not a Libertarian - dangertim MU - 2/2 13:48:30
          Not a 'real libertarian' by your reckoning, just a self-desc - JeffB MU - 2/2 13:50:13
               where does he describe himself as a libertarian?(nm) - dangertim MU - 2/2 13:57:03
     The human race needs FAR more evolution, in - GA Tiger MU - 2/2 13:36:44
     RE: Libertarian Prof It's a mistake To Think Pedophilia Is Wrong - BH O'bonga MU - 2/2 12:59:01
          Hey coward, you ran away - dangertim MU - 2/2 13:57:58
          RE: Libertarian Prof It's a mistake To Think Pedophilia Is Wrong - Panthera MU - 2/2 13:24:11
               LOL - Tigrrrr! MU - 2/2 13:26:15
                    What's he clueless about, snowflake?(nm) - dangertim MU - 2/2 13:58:29
                         Pickle's body of work. - Tigrrrr! MU - 2/2 17:14:57
                              I think you're lost in this thread(nm) - dangertim MU - 2/2 17:18:08
          I know a lot of libertarians. I don't know any that condone - ummmm MU - 2/2 13:05:45
               that's because he isn't a libertarian - dangertim MU - 2/2 13:48:47
                    What about Rothbard's assertions regarding the rights - JeffB MU - 2/2 13:56:14
                         also, what is the age that the child should have self- - dangertim MU - 2/2 14:06:13
                              My take would be that the parents and children themselves - JeffB MU - 2/2 15:02:42
                                   For me, it would be when the child - meatiger MU - 2/2 15:11:25
                         I think from a philosophical standpoint, he's right. - dangertim MU - 2/2 14:00:24
                    Wow. So, he teaches libertarianism more as a critic? (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/2 13:55:22
                         yes(nm) - dangertim MU - 2/2 13:57:22
                              That would render the OP on the misleading side. (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/2 14:02:19
                                   That would appear to be true, however it's likely - dangertim MU - 2/2 14:14:08
                                        The professor teaches libertarian philosophy at the universi - JeffB MU - 2/2 15:05:16
                                             Does a professor of economics adhere to communism - dangertim MU - 2/2 15:16:03
                                                  I will withdraw the assertion, which is a side issue in the - JeffB MU - 2/2 16:33:35
                                                       why did that take so long? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/2 16:44:07
                                                            The reasons it took me all of 2 1/2 hrs or so to respond - JeffB MU - 2/2 17:22:27
                                                            A couple of reasons, but what does it really matter? - JeffB MU - 2/2 17:09:26
                                                                 this subthread was premised on - SwampTiger MU - 2/2 17:18:41
                                                                      Actually, this is a subthread of that subthread. I had - JeffB MU - 2/2 17:33:24
               Not by that name, though some psychiatrists, psychologists - JeffB MU - 2/2 13:17:02
                    It's not just the name. It's the concept. - ummmm MU - 2/2 13:30:43
                         Do you agree or disagree with what Rothbard asserts in that - JeffB MU - 2/2 13:52:10
                              No, not really. (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/2 13:54:25
                                   So you think Rothbard is wrong in that passage? (nm) - JeffB MU - 2/2 13:57:07
                                        I don't agree with him. - ummmm MU - 2/2 14:00:30
                                             And I should say, I don't agree with all of it. - ummmm MU - 2/2 14:01:15
                                                  Do you think parents have a right to force their children to - JeffB MU - 2/2 14:08:24
                                                       RE: Do you think parents have a right to force their children to - ummmm MU - 2/2 14:46:03
                                                            Do children have the right to leave whenever they want to - JeffB MU - 2/2 17:59:13
                                                            So no, parents don't have a right to force their children to - JeffB MU - 2/2 15:08:01
                                                                 It's not a right, Jeff. Rights are negative, never positive. - ummmm MU - 2/2 15:20:38
                                                                      However you would want to phrase it, do you think that - JeffB MU - 2/2 15:37:07
                                                                 that's bad logic, Jeff. - dangertim MU - 2/2 15:17:33
                                                                      That is hardly a way to have a reasonable discussion, Tim. - JeffB MU - 2/2 15:43:11
                                                                           what difference does it make if he is a Libertarian or not?(nm) - meatiger MU - 2/2 15:46:44
                                                                                dangertim is asserting that the professor isn't a libertaria - JeffB MU - 2/2 15:55:16
                                                                                     The burden of proof is on you. - dangertim MU - 2/2 16:04:50
                                                                                          I will withdraw the assertion, which is a side issue in the - JeffB MU - 2/2 16:26:56
                                                                                     That is a whole lot of assertion - meatiger MU - 2/2 15:58:04
                                                                                          pickle, of course, runs from the question whenever it is - JeffB MU - 2/2 16:10:06
                                                                      These are more ethics questions than questions about - ummmm MU - 2/2 15:21:32
                                                                           Rothbard considers it an 'absolute right' of children to - JeffB MU - 2/2 15:47:31
                                                       On the 2nd part - meatiger MU - 2/2 14:12:13
                                                            What about the rest of it? Would parents have the right to - JeffB MU - 2/2 15:09:49
                                                                 Tried to answer above - meatiger MU - 2/2 15:12:40
                                                                      If a 12 year old girl wrote a book that became a best seller - JeffB MU - 2/2 15:57:55
                                                                           I said there were many factors - meatiger MU - 2/2 15:59:11
                                                                                I just asked a simple question that gets to the heart of the - JeffB MU - 2/2 16:18:46
               Just child porn possession, no age of consent laws - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/2 13:08:57
                    Mere possession of child porn should not be against the law. - ummmm MU - 2/2 13:29:45
                         Utter bullshyte position. It sickens me. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/2 13:48:02
                              Because making something illegal - meatiger MU - 2/2 14:00:33
                                   You're too stupid to discuss this with. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/2 14:57:13
                              Oh yeah, I forgot - ummmm MU - 2/2 13:54:06
                                   you're talking to the angrylibertarian - SwampTiger MU - 2/2 14:09:23
          "so many"? this is the first one I've seen - SwampTiger MU - 2/2 13:04:07
               Doesn't it flow quite naturally from 'the rights of the - JeffB MU - 2/2 13:11:23
                    no (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/2 13:27:35
                         If a child has every right to leave his or her parents at - JeffB MU - 2/2 13:48:43
                              RE: If a child has every right to leave his or her parents at - SwampTiger MU - 2/2 13:59:33
          It's pretty high up on the 'freedom' scale? (nm) - JeffB MU - 2/2 13:00:25
     Is he also a Catholic priest or bishop? Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 2/2 12:53:47
          Wrong religion - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/2 14:48:26
          ðŸ¤¨ - MIZ45 MU - 2/2 13:46:06
          No. Just a public school teacher(nm) - Spanky KU - 2/2 13:28:06
          Nice cheap shot. Nothing of value that you could add to - JeffB MU - 2/2 12:58:08
               what discussion? - SwampTiger MU - 2/2 13:00:05
                    for discussion on a political discussion board. (nm) - JeffB MU - 2/2 13:01:00




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