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My take would be that the parents and children themselves

Posted on: February 2, 2022 at 15:02:42 CT
JeffB MU
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will agree when the time is right if they have a decent family relationship.

If it gets into some crazy legal battle, the current norm of 18 years old seems reasonable enough to me.

What about yourself? When should a child have the right of self-ownership under the law?
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Libertarian Prof It's a mistake To Think Pedophilia Is Wrong - JeffB MU - 2/2 12:51:13
     Just what the Talmud teaches - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/2 14:43:29
     Sounds like a familiar argument here - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/2 14:29:24
          smug troll - SwampTiger MU - 2/2 14:34:44
               Surely someone on here - meatiger MU - 2/2 14:39:24
     Not a Libertarian - dangertim MU - 2/2 13:48:30
          Not a 'real libertarian' by your reckoning, just a self-desc - JeffB MU - 2/2 13:50:13
               where does he describe himself as a libertarian?(nm) - dangertim MU - 2/2 13:57:03
     The human race needs FAR more evolution, in - GA Tiger MU - 2/2 13:36:44
     RE: Libertarian Prof It's a mistake To Think Pedophilia Is Wrong - BH O'bonga MU - 2/2 12:59:01
          Hey coward, you ran away - dangertim MU - 2/2 13:57:58
          RE: Libertarian Prof It's a mistake To Think Pedophilia Is Wrong - Panthera MU - 2/2 13:24:11
               LOL - Tigrrrr! MU - 2/2 13:26:15
                    What's he clueless about, snowflake?(nm) - dangertim MU - 2/2 13:58:29
                         Pickle's body of work. - Tigrrrr! MU - 2/2 17:14:57
                              I think you're lost in this thread(nm) - dangertim MU - 2/2 17:18:08
          I know a lot of libertarians. I don't know any that condone - ummmm MU - 2/2 13:05:45
               that's because he isn't a libertarian - dangertim MU - 2/2 13:48:47
                    What about Rothbard's assertions regarding the rights - JeffB MU - 2/2 13:56:14
                         also, what is the age that the child should have self- - dangertim MU - 2/2 14:06:13
                              My take would be that the parents and children themselves - JeffB MU - 2/2 15:02:42
                                   For me, it would be when the child - meatiger MU - 2/2 15:11:25
                         I think from a philosophical standpoint, he's right. - dangertim MU - 2/2 14:00:24
                    Wow. So, he teaches libertarianism more as a critic? (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/2 13:55:22
                         yes(nm) - dangertim MU - 2/2 13:57:22
                              That would render the OP on the misleading side. (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/2 14:02:19
                                   That would appear to be true, however it's likely - dangertim MU - 2/2 14:14:08
                                        The professor teaches libertarian philosophy at the universi - JeffB MU - 2/2 15:05:16
                                             Does a professor of economics adhere to communism - dangertim MU - 2/2 15:16:03
                                                  I will withdraw the assertion, which is a side issue in the - JeffB MU - 2/2 16:33:35
                                                       why did that take so long? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/2 16:44:07
                                                            The reasons it took me all of 2 1/2 hrs or so to respond - JeffB MU - 2/2 17:22:27
                                                            A couple of reasons, but what does it really matter? - JeffB MU - 2/2 17:09:26
                                                                 this subthread was premised on - SwampTiger MU - 2/2 17:18:41
                                                                      Actually, this is a subthread of that subthread. I had - JeffB MU - 2/2 17:33:24
               Not by that name, though some psychiatrists, psychologists - JeffB MU - 2/2 13:17:02
                    It's not just the name. It's the concept. - ummmm MU - 2/2 13:30:43
                         Do you agree or disagree with what Rothbard asserts in that - JeffB MU - 2/2 13:52:10
                              No, not really. (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/2 13:54:25
                                   So you think Rothbard is wrong in that passage? (nm) - JeffB MU - 2/2 13:57:07
                                        I don't agree with him. - ummmm MU - 2/2 14:00:30
                                             And I should say, I don't agree with all of it. - ummmm MU - 2/2 14:01:15
                                                  Do you think parents have a right to force their children to - JeffB MU - 2/2 14:08:24
                                                       RE: Do you think parents have a right to force their children to - ummmm MU - 2/2 14:46:03
                                                            Do children have the right to leave whenever they want to - JeffB MU - 2/2 17:59:13
                                                            So no, parents don't have a right to force their children to - JeffB MU - 2/2 15:08:01
                                                                 It's not a right, Jeff. Rights are negative, never positive. - ummmm MU - 2/2 15:20:38
                                                                      However you would want to phrase it, do you think that - JeffB MU - 2/2 15:37:07
                                                                 that's bad logic, Jeff. - dangertim MU - 2/2 15:17:33
                                                                      That is hardly a way to have a reasonable discussion, Tim. - JeffB MU - 2/2 15:43:11
                                                                           what difference does it make if he is a Libertarian or not?(nm) - meatiger MU - 2/2 15:46:44
                                                                                dangertim is asserting that the professor isn't a libertaria - JeffB MU - 2/2 15:55:16
                                                                                     The burden of proof is on you. - dangertim MU - 2/2 16:04:50
                                                                                          I will withdraw the assertion, which is a side issue in the - JeffB MU - 2/2 16:26:56
                                                                                     That is a whole lot of assertion - meatiger MU - 2/2 15:58:04
                                                                                          pickle, of course, runs from the question whenever it is - JeffB MU - 2/2 16:10:06
                                                                      These are more ethics questions than questions about - ummmm MU - 2/2 15:21:32
                                                                           Rothbard considers it an 'absolute right' of children to - JeffB MU - 2/2 15:47:31
                                                       On the 2nd part - meatiger MU - 2/2 14:12:13
                                                            What about the rest of it? Would parents have the right to - JeffB MU - 2/2 15:09:49
                                                                 Tried to answer above - meatiger MU - 2/2 15:12:40
                                                                      If a 12 year old girl wrote a book that became a best seller - JeffB MU - 2/2 15:57:55
                                                                           I said there were many factors - meatiger MU - 2/2 15:59:11
                                                                                I just asked a simple question that gets to the heart of the - JeffB MU - 2/2 16:18:46
               Just child porn possession, no age of consent laws - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/2 13:08:57
                    Mere possession of child porn should not be against the law. - ummmm MU - 2/2 13:29:45
                         Utter bullshyte position. It sickens me. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/2 13:48:02
                              Because making something illegal - meatiger MU - 2/2 14:00:33
                                   You're too stupid to discuss this with. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/2 14:57:13
                              Oh yeah, I forgot - ummmm MU - 2/2 13:54:06
                                   you're talking to the angrylibertarian - SwampTiger MU - 2/2 14:09:23
          "so many"? this is the first one I've seen - SwampTiger MU - 2/2 13:04:07
               Doesn't it flow quite naturally from 'the rights of the - JeffB MU - 2/2 13:11:23
                    no (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 2/2 13:27:35
                         If a child has every right to leave his or her parents at - JeffB MU - 2/2 13:48:43
                              RE: If a child has every right to leave his or her parents at - SwampTiger MU - 2/2 13:59:33
          It's pretty high up on the 'freedom' scale? (nm) - JeffB MU - 2/2 13:00:25
     Is he also a Catholic priest or bishop? Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 2/2 12:53:47
          Wrong religion - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/2 14:48:26
          ðŸ¤¨ - MIZ45 MU - 2/2 13:46:06
          No. Just a public school teacher(nm) - Spanky KU - 2/2 13:28:06
          Nice cheap shot. Nothing of value that you could add to - JeffB MU - 2/2 12:58:08
               what discussion? - SwampTiger MU - 2/2 13:00:05
                    for discussion on a political discussion board. (nm) - JeffB MU - 2/2 13:01:00




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