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When you are 'stepping back' from a middle of the pack

Posted on: October 20, 2021 at 07:34:06 CT

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finish your program has serious problems.

Stepping back should be a seventh-place finish, not where you are stepping back from.

For any coach years one and two should be freebies while they reset their roster and instill their philosophy. In year three you should be seeing some definite development of the program and what the identity is going to be. Year four does not have to be championships but there should be evidence of growth and the culture of the program should be set.

Year three was a complete disaster with no development and what appeared to be a weekly change in coaching philosophy. Year four looked like things were finally coming together for CM but after the holidays he completely lost his team. If this program has a culture it would seem to be chaos.

So in year five we are hitting the reset button and hoping to reboot the program. I have zero confidence that CM can successfully pull that off.

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MESSAGE THREAD

Mizzou picked 10th by SEC media - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 10:37:22

14-15 wins, here we come! - MUHoopster MU - 10/19 15:50:50

Zero. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 10/19 21:51:41

Why does a new roster buy him good will? Why does a coach - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/20 08:28:06

Note the use of the word "little." - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 10/25 09:10:55

We were picked 10th last year and finished 7th - tsutiger57 MU - 10/19 15:21:53

We also had one of the biggest Covid advantages in the - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/19 16:36:11

Wow. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 10/19 21:49:49

Do you deny that Covid played a part in our hot start last - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/20 08:24:29

No, I don't. We were an experienced team. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 10/25 09:14:29

Another 27 posts today saying the same stupid s hit you have - Jeff85 MU - 10/19 17:57:02

Hey, the dipshìt is back. Care to address my actual post or - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/19 18:19:43

RE: Hey, the dipshìt is back. Care to address my actual post or - Mizzhope MU - 10/19 21:38:03

Its true Mizzou’s likely leading scorers transferred - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 22:24:55

To me, that is highly meaningful - FIJItiger MU

- 10/19 15:37:14

If you think 7th is totally unacceptable prepare to be - Jeff85 MU - 10/19 18:03:42

Where we finished isn’t the point - FIJItiger MU

- 10/19 20:28:39

Every previous coach except Kim had a 30 win season, - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/19 18:24:47

Is your preference Mizzou having a coach doing that - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 18:29:08

No I would much rather keep a guy around who can bring us - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/19 18:42:48

He has the same problem Mizzou has over the last - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 18:47:48

^I agree with this. The last two sentences in particular. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 10/19 21:54:26

Maybe a little optimistic but not entirely unreasonable(nm) - Fred G. Sanford USA - 10/19 12:40:01

Agree, I think 10th would be the top end for this team. - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/19 13:04:53

RE: Agree, I think 10th would be the top end for this team. - TONYTIGR MU - 10/19 13:11:17

yeah huge drop off to bottom 4(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 10/19 13:59:36

Pretty small distinction, 9-11 is also a disaster for - FIJItiger MU

- 10/19 13:24:00

RE: Pretty small distinction, 9-11 is also a disaster for - TONYTIGR MU - 10/19 14:22:15

RE: Pretty small distinction, 9-11 is also a disaster for - FIJItiger MU

- 10/19 14:28:07

we are celebrating 9th place in the SEC in yr 5 - LamarFrazier MU - 10/19 14:24:02

RE: we are celebrating 9th place in the SEC in yr 5 - TONYTIGR MU - 10/19 14:26:57

project much?(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 10/19 14:47:04

RE: project much?(nm) - TONYTIGR MU - 10/19 16:51:13

It's fun to me too. - LamarFrazier MU - 10/19 16:52:50

9-11 is a disaster if - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 13:39:04

Played this game & got to 500last yr. Fool me once shame - Sigma MU - 10/19 15:23:18

Disaster this season is not dependent on what happens next - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/19 14:12:01

I get you live and die with each season - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 14:20:04

No, exactly the opposite. I am looking at his entire body - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/19 14:25:33

That would be 3 out of 4 sub 500. That's enough evidence! - Sigma MU - 10/19 15:24:27

If he’s gone Dennis Gates should be one - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 15:45:50

there is no plan though* - LamarFrazier MU - 10/19 14:24:51

If a plan/vision was in place, why could we not have - FIJItiger MU

- 10/19 14:24:41

They have been. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 14:29:02

Absurdity at it's best! - Sigma MU - 10/19 15:25:18

that is revisionist history and inaccurate - FIJItiger MU

- 10/19 14:32:10

I see how you're discounting this yr and pushing - LamarFrazier MU - 10/19 14:00:49

Wu-T does not believe CM should ever be judged. His - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/19 14:15:09

I have been saying this since the 20-21 season started - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 14:05:02

CM hasn't earned a free pass in his 5th yr - LamarFrazier MU - 10/19 14:10:02

I’m not saying it’s a free pass - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 14:15:39

a .500 season in his 5th yr? - LamarFrazier MU - 10/19 14:21:48

You are really caught up in this 5th year thing - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 14:26:15

oh so now the 6th yr is the pivotal yr - LamarFrazier MU - 10/19 14:45:23

Wait last season was his worst? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 14:52:42

In terms of expectations and maximizing talent? I think so.(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 10/19 15:47:15

You keep claiming this even though multiple current SEC - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/19 14:27:19

None had this level of rebuild - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 14:30:11

And Bruce Pearl? He won the SEC and went to F4(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 10/19 14:45:50

Buy a bunch of players and Cuonzo could do what he did - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 14:54:37

Don't agree with that at all. * - LamarFrazier MU - 10/19 15:48:57

So even when presented with indisputable proof that your - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/19 15:24:57

I haven’t made my mind up about him. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 15:29:13

BS ! You have protected him at every turn. Hell you have - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/19 15:36:33

90% of the complaints against him are BS - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 15:40:45

Bottom line matters. - LamarFrazier MU - 10/19 16:01:01

Most of the “experts” had Mizzou as 10th in the - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 16:18:15

Rewind to 2019. What did you expect in yr 4 with - LamarFrazier MU - 10/19 16:50:29

I thought Mizzou should have been a bubble team - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 16:57:22

When you are 'stepping back' from a middle of the pack - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/20 07:34:06

Does it lead to a top 4-5 finish next season? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/20 10:14:16

Miss St was worse off. LSU was no better. You try to - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/19 14:38:05

Mississippi State was close to as bad as Mizzou was - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 14:44:06

Also if it involves planes crashing into buildings - FIJItiger MU

- 10/19 13:50:40

That standard doesn’t match modern history - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 14:00:03

In terms of recent seasons - FIJItiger MU

- 10/19 14:06:00

Wait 2012 was seen as a frustrating season? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 14:09:02

We didn't get 5th place in 2011-12 - FIJItiger MU

- 10/19 14:10:21

Then Mizzou burned the program to the ground - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 14:18:34

You are lowering the standard of success - FIJItiger MU

- 10/19 14:21:58

Temporarily yes. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 14:33:58

Hiring a good coach is not skipping steps - FIJItiger MU

- 10/19 14:36:05

Mizzou has a good coach. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 15:07:21

Lets hire a mediocre coach and then wonder why our porgram - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/19 14:38:56

Our program can't rise to mediocrity. That is the - FIJItiger MU

- 10/19 14:40:24

you're mixing Big 12 and SEC - LamarFrazier MU - 10/19 14:02:02

I have been saying 9-11 since May - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 13:10:08

the list: (avg 11.25) - LamarFrazier MU - 10/19 13:57:13

That’s not the full list (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/19 14:01:37

what is it missing? (nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 10/19 14:02:23

RE: the list: (avg 11.57) - FIJItiger MU

- 10/19 14:00:41

didn't know Athlon even existed anymore - LamarFrazier MU - 10/19 14:02:56

Most? I have seen as many in the 12-14 range as the 9-11.8(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/19 13:30:05

this is quite the dick measuring contest you 2 have here(nm) - TigerA MU - 10/19 13:31:09

I am one of the few that call him on his bullshlt.(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/19 14:17:53

RE: I am one of the few that call him on his bullshlt.(nm) - TONYTIGR MU - 10/19 14:24:31

not all heroes wear capes(nm) - TigerA MU - 10/19 14:21:02

lol - LamarFrazier MU - 10/19 14:22:30

Seems about right. - ERB KC - 10/19 11:34:43

Appears to be consensus. Cuonzo has flatten out. - Sigma MU - 10/19 11:25:34

so i guess i was right - phrejd MU

- 10/19 10:52:50