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"it is clear that a newborn babe is in no natural sense an

Posted on: October 18, 2021 at 16:07:59 CT
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existing self-owner, but rather a potential self-owner."

Picking "newborn babe" as the starting point is subjective. You could replace this with "conceived fetus" and still claim it as true.

Both are subjective statements.

Give me objective proof that the potential for self ownership starts at birth and NOT conception.
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Children and Rights - pickle MU - 10/18 15:50:56
     When your moral code is derived solely from some - MUTGR MU - 10/18 18:50:57
          if you had any critical reading skills - pickle MU - 10/18 18:58:03
     You show why rejecting God results in a perversely evil - JeffB MU - 10/18 16:10:55
          RE: You show why rejecting God results in a perversely evil - MUTGR MU - 10/18 18:54:12
               well - pickle MU - 10/18 18:59:44
          Is he incorrect - meatiger MU - 10/18 16:18:32
               he’s never read it (nm) - pickle MU - 10/18 16:38:06
                    You are either a liar or very careless with the facts. - JeffB MU - 10/18 17:46:23
                         RE: You are either a liar or very careless with the facts. - MUTGR MU - 10/18 19:06:20
               Sure there are, and there are all too many parents who would - JeffB MU - 10/18 16:24:37
     "it is clear that a newborn babe is in no natural sense an - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/18 16:07:59
          keep reading (nm) - pickle MU - 10/18 16:17:08
               at any point in the argument that uses "at birth" it is - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/18 16:33:29
                    The only objective ontological change takes place at - JeffB MU - 10/18 17:41:52
                    no, that’s an incorrect assumption (nm) - pickle MU - 10/18 16:39:07
                         it is in conflict with the author's subjective claims - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/18 16:42:16
                              it isn’t - pickle MU - 10/18 16:50:32
                                   A rose by any other name is still a rose. - JeffB MU - 10/18 17:45:23
                                   to reinterate - I'm not arguing against his claim that a - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/18 17:20:34
                                   that isn't an assumption. it is fact that the author - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/18 17:16:57




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