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not sure we're even treading water
Posted on: September 16, 2021 at 23:05:00 CT
LamarFrazier
MU
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the longer we keep CM the bigger hole we dig again for the next guy
this yr is gonna be ugly
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Shaw commitment info
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 19:29:29
LETS GOOOO! ! ! ! ! ! !
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Spartus
MWSC
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9/17 08:49:30
RE: Shaw commitment info
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TONYTIGR
MU
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9/17 08:43:02
questioning his assumptions/points isn't personal.
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LamarFrazier
MU
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9/17 09:22:40
RE: questioning his assumptions/points isn't personal.
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TONYTIGR
MU
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9/17 11:11:34
It sounds you're pretty upset about this. (nm)
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LamarFrazier
MU
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9/17 11:52:09
RE: It sounds you're pretty upset about this. (nm)
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TONYTIGR
MU
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9/17 13:49:00
I'm sure wu appreciates you
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LamarFrazier
MU
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9/17 19:19:38
RE: I'm sure wu appreciates you
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TONYTIGR
MU
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9/18 07:40:34
No one questions Wu-T's attention to detail, it is beyond
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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9/17 09:49:45
I heartily second these comments
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Harvest
MU
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9/17 09:15:59
This board has absolutely nothing to do with the State of
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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9/17 09:52:06
do you work for CM?
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LamarFrazier
MU
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9/16 20:00:14
He works for university indirectly. Sub-contractor to work
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Sigma
MU
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9/17 03:44:32
Imagine being crazy enough to believe this (nm)
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zoomer
99
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9/17 08:57:57
Your ignorance doesn't make this false. Maryland was
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Sigma
MU
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9/17 10:44:40
So you work for SLU
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JayHoaxH8r
MU
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9/17 07:37:04
Nope, but if offered a big enough contract I would.
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Sigma
MU
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9/17 10:45:39
To be fair, he was around long before
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 22:03:52
accurate assessment (nm)
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zounami
MU
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9/17 07:06:24
Which is even weirder, for someone who seems to have more
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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9/16 22:13:24
He passionately follows recruiting
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 22:34:30
I did play D1.
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 22:38:16
Agree with that, with only a few exceptions I don't really
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 22:45:50
Ok I disagree with the last part.
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 22:47:45
So you don't disagree with the first part?
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tigerdb
MU
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9/17 06:23:39
From a PR perspective Shaw was a must get
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/18 17:04:00
He got that rebuild in year one with three top 50 players
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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9/16 22:53:18
Would work that way if he had landed 3 top 50 recruits
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 22:57:30
MU is never going to have 3 top 50 recruits every season
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 23:11:55
so he's not responsible for losses because he doesn't have
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LamarFrazier
MU
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9/16 23:00:18
I have never said rankings don’t matter.
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 23:03:39
I've always argued top 100 matter
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LamarFrazier
MU
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9/16 23:07:16
My opinion is top 50 matters. Rivals and 247 have good data
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 23:19:38
Coaching matters considerably more than top 50 players(nm)
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 23:22:02
Quality coaches will always get their fair share of top 50
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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9/16 23:30:42
Not if they don’t have good assistants
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 23:34:00
A quality coach may run on hard times but if they are truly
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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9/17 07:17:57
There are 13 other coaches in the SEC
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 22:52:48
10th would about match how Mizzou spends (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 22:55:12
vomit. You sound like zoomer with that spends excuses
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 22:57:31
My only argument is I am still in wait and see
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 23:00:21
I think if we were able to use the search to go back, I was
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 23:03:10
not sure we're even treading water
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LamarFrazier
MU
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9/16 23:05:00
Unfortunately at this point that is true
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 23:08:22
I have taken more of a wait and see with both coaches
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 22:22:57
*spits out beer*
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LamarFrazier
MU
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9/16 22:31:32
You guys are good at this.
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 22:34:16
actually a discussion about you unless you are CM
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LamarFrazier
MU
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9/16 22:36:32
I would criticize KA as well.
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 22:12:13
People rarely step up to support floundering programs.(nm)
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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9/16 22:14:44
Is positive news not allowed on this board?(nm)
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beerdrinker69
MU
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9/16 21:58:26
Lets GO MIZZOU! ! ! ! !
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Spartus
MWSC
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9/17 08:48:53
None of the above.
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 21:32:11
When you win more than 40% of SEC games it is(nm)
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LamarFrazier
MU
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9/16 21:34:53
Maybe that will change with a commit from Shaw
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 21:42:37
I really hope we land him
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LamarFrazier
MU
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9/16 22:21:45
Slightly lower ranked than Tilmon was. CM did nothing
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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9/16 22:28:41
This is the type of stuff I disagree with.
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 22:31:31
Two of his four seasons were sub .500, he is ten games
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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9/16 22:36:50
That’s normal for massive rebuilds.
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 22:39:35
Below .500?
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 22:56:09
Sure look at Auburn and Mississippi State
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 23:05:16
Pearl won SEC in 4th yr and F4 in 5th yr
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LamarFrazier
MU
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9/16 23:08:28
Usually in the first couple of years as a coach is getting
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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9/16 22:49:54
I think he here at least 2 more seasons
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 22:54:05
what's a 'pretty good run" mean?
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LamarFrazier
MU
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9/16 23:23:08
excuse train rolls on(nm)
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LamarFrazier
MU
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9/16 22:42:04
Do you have examples that show this type of rebuild
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 22:46:24
Bruce Pearl at Auburn. Three tough years, 26 wins in year
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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9/16 23:08:25
Funny that we both use Howland and Pearl as examples
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/17 05:09:35
neither support your point. Pearl won SEC in yr 4 and
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LamarFrazier
MU
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9/17 08:23:48
You keep glossing over the fact that the successful coaches
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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9/17 07:06:53
Pearl then won 25 and 2nd in SEC in yr 6
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LamarFrazier
MU
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9/16 23:11:28
Yes, it is called building a program for a reason. Usually
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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9/16 23:22:49
underachieving last yr with 9 Sr/Jr was enough for me
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LamarFrazier
MU
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9/16 23:28:41
Last season was pretty hard to explain. Not a
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 23:35:40
Same here. I though this year should have been at least a
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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9/16 23:33:22
There has never been a comparable rebuild to this
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/16 23:00:24
Bullshlt! Kim was a horrible coach but he left CM with a
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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9/17 09:11:21
I disagree with that.It was the most significant/challenging
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/17 09:50:39
To build back a program you need one thing, quality players.
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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9/17 10:10:02
a rather dramatic overreaction(nm)
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LamarFrazier
MU
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9/17 10:02:14
Fiji is nothing if not dramatic. His take on the affect of
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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9/17 10:14:14
If anything I undersell his damage
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/17 10:54:14
No, I just pointed out how ridiculous your position is.
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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9/17 10:59:53
Agree, it was worse than that (nm)
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/17 11:01:40
Asinine. Stupid àss statements like that are what cause
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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9/17 11:09:07
That is fine. MU after Kim is the worst rebuild in modern
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/17 11:15:32
Bullshìt ! Kim left quality players and the program was
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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9/17 11:22:09
Absolutely and historically cratered. There has never
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/17 11:47:03
Bullshìt! The program still had SEC level talent and had
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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9/17 12:36:20
We got last in the SEC 3 straight seasons
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/17 13:01:55
This is another place where you go off the rails. Cuonzo
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sprintcar
STL
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9/17 14:23:53
Agree, I won't admit nor believe that to be true (nm)
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FIJItiger
MU
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9/17 15:24:23
BS. Barnett was an all-conference player. Puryear and Geist
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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9/17 13:35:40
so 20-32 in the SEC in past 3 yrs is progress?
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LamarFrazier
MU
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9/16 22:53:42
I see a bad faith argument there
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 22:58:43
I see your head up CM's ass and saying it's not dark(nm)
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LamarFrazier
MU
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9/16 23:00:49
We are finally seeing Mizzou get the type
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 22:24:31
They are not running a 4x100. We do not need athletes, we
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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9/16 22:33:52
100% need better athletes
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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9/16 22:35:52
Agree 100% with both statements. But athletes without BB
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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9/16 22:45:56