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Posted on: April 16, 2021 at 09:58:39 CT
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rightly made yet where I catch grief from you and others. You rightly say, "I also understand that this system is not going to change anytime soon, nor fast, so it is mostly discussion at this point...."

For that reason I say it is foolish not to realize there are degrees of even bad choices, and to refuse to support the best of the options now if we are going to be living with them for quite some time is foolish. And to do nothing actually gives support to the worst of the ideas before us. It makes sense that one should be ready to fight for what you want, but also to make practical decisions today to at least slow the decay if and when possible. And to say both sides are equal in their proposed rate of decay is simply not a realistic or truthful statement.

Edited by 4TigersinMichigan at 09:59:59 on 04/16/21
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     You can't ask them any serious questions. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/16 09:33:54
          Every reply he’s received has been serious - pickle MU - 4/16 09:44:38
               I'm sure you feel that way. It doesn't make you right. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/16 09:48:52
          You're right, rita. Sometimes i can't help myself. And i - hokie VT - 4/16 09:41:25
               lol (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/16 09:56:13
     😡🍪 - Emoji Man MSU - 4/16 09:31:32
          Picture boy is back. The autistic little shlt that cannot - hokie VT - 4/16 09:33:22
               😡🤬🍪 - Emoji Man MSU - 4/16 09:49:56
     If you ask the question again but in a mature way - ummmm MU - 4/16 09:28:05
          You're an arrogant little shlt aren't you? nm - hokie VT - 4/16 09:49:01
               No, I'm about as humble as they come. - ummmm MU - 4/16 10:08:44
                    You have every reason to be humble. nm - hokie VT - 4/16 10:11:04
                         I agree. I'm not worthy of this life. (nm) - ummmm MU - 4/16 10:12:51
                              Are you one who says that voters try to control others, - hokie VT - 4/16 10:16:43
                                   I don't understand what one has to do with the other. - ummmm MU - 4/16 10:24:56
               You’ll need to try again. - Emoji Man MSU - 4/16 09:51:02
                    Go back to pictures. Your words make no sense. nm - hokie VT - 4/16 09:54:34
     People can make their own choices about all of that - El-ahrairah BAMA - 4/16 09:23:12
     same regulations that should apply to everyone - ashtray UF - 4/16 09:12:26
     Do these regulations actually prevent bad stuff from - meatiger MU - 4/16 09:09:39
          So you're ok, knowing that your surgeon will be - hokie VT - 4/16 09:15:41
               it’s not hard to research service providers (nm) - pickle MU - 4/16 09:27:16
                    That is one of the great thing about today's society - meatiger MU - 4/16 09:28:47
               I would expect if I work with a reputable insurance - meatiger MU - 4/16 09:17:33
                    You know enough to check out the insurance company and the - hokie VT - 4/16 09:22:04
                         My base assumptions - meatiger MU - 4/16 09:23:46
                              Why would you expect that if not for government - hokie VT - 4/16 09:28:24
                                   gov't oversight has nothing to do with it - meatiger MU - 4/16 09:31:19
                                        A local store you trust based on...what? You must spend an - hokie VT - 4/16 09:35:45
                                             oh dear(nm) - dangertim MU - 4/16 09:44:49
                                             Wow (nm) - pickle MU - 4/16 09:43:48
                                             when I travel and I want to go out to eat - meatiger MU - 4/16 09:39:34
                                                  How did you pick a taxi driver? How do you know he has a - hokie VT - 4/16 09:44:20
                                                       Perfect example. Uber & Lyft don't have government - kmawv8 KC - 4/16 09:53:59
                                                            Unfortunately, many have to have that now(nm) - meatiger MU - 4/16 09:58:23
                                                       Have you ever left your house? - meatiger MU - 4/16 09:47:37
                                                            nobody wants to talk to cookie, I guess - ashtray UF - 4/16 09:59:07
                                                       this is amazing (nm) - pickle MU - 4/16 09:45:11
                    Yet I only obey laws because of fear of force - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/16 09:19:19
                         If your cop buddy enforced the COVID laws at your - kmawv8 KC - 4/16 09:41:08
                              Had he told us we needed to stick to the max of 9 - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/16 09:45:49
                                   lol (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/16 09:59:39
                                   sir - meatiger MU - 4/16 09:48:59
                                        He is the expert in the area of how the act will be enforced - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/16 10:04:08
                         some laws...yes - meatiger MU - 4/16 09:21:14
                              Some do, some don't - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/16 09:23:39
                                   My experience tells me - meatiger MU - 4/16 09:24:57
                                        "...at some point". Perhaps right after they poison your - hokie VT - 4/16 09:30:43
                                        And all of this happens - meatiger MU - 4/16 09:26:30
                                             Actually, it is those who point to these as issues with the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/16 09:28:15
                                                  Yes...because we are all expert problem solvers - meatiger MU - 4/16 09:33:02
                                                       I never said I do trust them - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/16 09:36:34
                                                            In most cases, the system will not be all that different - meatiger MU - 4/16 09:42:44
                                                                 I do have an appreciation for it, but here is a point you - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/16 09:58:39
                                                                      I do not agree with that at all - meatiger MU - 4/16 10:00:46
                                                                           OK - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/16 10:02:03
               It happens today under the system you currently defend. - kmawv8 KC - 4/16 09:16:52
                    From The Idiot's handbook. Since something isn't perfect, - hokie VT - 4/16 09:19:06
                         lol, oh hokie - kmawv8 KC - 4/16 09:33:21
                         that’s a straw man (nm) - pickle MU - 4/16 09:20:30
                         that's not in his handbook at all - ashtray UF - 4/16 09:20:20
          So should there be any rules or regulations in any area - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/16 09:13:51
               the less the better(nm) - meatiger MU - 4/16 09:16:21
                    So....zero. No rules or regulations at all. About anything. - hokie VT - 4/16 09:26:37
                         so the fact that there is a regulation - meatiger MU - 4/16 09:27:54
                              Generally, yeah. nm - hokie VT - 4/16 09:31:47
                                   But if they had a 3rd party certificate - meatiger MU - 4/16 09:34:18
                    You didn't answer my question based on your response - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/16 09:17:01
                         over time, yes - meatiger MU - 4/16 09:20:09
          Point of Information - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/16 09:10:27
               meat isn’t an idiot nor a moron (nm) - pickle MU - 4/16 09:11:30
               the answer is quite self-evident(nm) - meatiger MU - 4/16 09:11:06
                    No it's not. It's a dodge, a duck and a change of - hokie VT - 4/16 09:17:18
                         it was none of those things - pickle MU - 4/16 09:26:31
                              because he's a little b*tch (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/16 09:30:33
     Why do you do this hokie bird(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 4/16 09:07:31
     No, there shouldn’t be any whatsoever - pickle MU - 4/16 09:04:13
          I read this post of yours. And now i remember why i hadn't - hokie VT - 4/16 09:14:10
               RE: I read this post of yours. And now i remember why i hadn't - pickle MU - 4/16 09:20:06
          a voluntary agreement like U.S. citizenship - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/16 09:06:19
               It's not voluntary.(nm) - TigerMatt - 4/16 09:46:37
     None of them can be older than 12. Why even try(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 4/16 09:03:13




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