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That is not kidnapping, of course. Only the tiniest of

Posted on: March 12, 2021 at 20:35:02 CT

JeffB MU

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tiny minorities would claim that police putting criminals in jail is kidnapping.

There is a social contract in all societies in the world and punishments are meted out to those who violate societal laws.

Can you name a country in the world that does not have police or jails?

Edited by JeffB at 20:44:34 on 03/12/21

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If he killed the police for trying to arrest him would he be - JeffB MU

- 3/12 16:27:57

Where’d that paperboy go? (nm) - HandBanana MU - 3/12 18:09:43

you will never understand rights (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/12 16:40:29

Here's your big chance to explain them to me & TB. (nm) - JeffB MU

- 3/12 16:42:56

are you new here? (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/12 16:46:37

You know better than that. - JeffB MU

- 3/12 16:52:44

my view is we have one side of the story - ashtray UF - 3/12 16:57:19

No doubt. The details in the story are pretty sparse, but it - JeffB MU

- 3/12 18:01:18

If I tried to handcuff you and lock you in a cage - ashtray UF - 3/12 19:47:48

Does that mean that you think Mr. Payne would have been - JeffB MU

- 3/12 19:50:59

Reasonable force in self defense, yes - ashtray UF - 3/12 20:03:29

That is not kidnapping, of course. Only the tiniest of - JeffB MU

- 3/12 20:35:02

you will never understand rights, Jeff (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 3/12 20:56:17

wrong, Jeff - pickle MU

- 3/12 20:40:47

terrible argument. do better - ashtray UF - 3/12 20:36:49

My point is that if societies were based upon your preferred - JeffB MU

- 3/12 20:40:45

that's your opinion - ashtray UF - 3/12 20:42:42

he cannot have an honest conversation - pickle MU

- 3/12 20:47:31

You stopped pretending to have a rational conversation, but - JeffB MU

- 3/12 20:52:52

did you not say in this thread that you had me in mind - pickle MU

- 3/12 20:55:25

and Mr. Hypocrite chimes in again with his questions and - JeffB MU

- 3/12 20:58:45

Jeff, you are mental. read the post (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/12 21:00:43

The society you prefer is a figment of your imagination. - JeffB MU

- 3/12 20:46:51

that doesn't address my argument at all - ashtray UF - 3/12 20:51:48

As I said, the situations are not analogous. But if YOU were - JeffB MU

- 3/12 20:56:42

what's the difference? (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/12 20:58:40

I already told you multiple times. There's a social contract - JeffB MU

- 3/12 21:01:12

I already told you before. I didn't sign a contract (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/12 21:01:34

You think homeowners' associations rules are valid, though, - JeffB MU

- 3/12 21:04:18

yes, you sign those, you idiot (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 3/12 21:18:29

yes, I agreed to that when I purchased my house - ashtray UF - 3/12 21:07:48

and what if you had inherited it? Would you not be bound by - JeffB MU

- 3/12 21:22:52

I could sell the house (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/12 21:30:24

The analogy here is that you could move from this country - JeffB MU

- 3/12 21:46:47

it's a false equivalence - ashtray UF - 3/12 21:56:13

No, the analogy is reasonable. Unless all of your ancestors - JeffB MU

- 3/12 22:23:57

no, it's absurd (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/13 12:05:44

you will never understand rights (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/12 21:48:49

here’s where the thread should have ended - pickle MU

- 3/12 21:05:52

here is your dishonesty revealed - pickle MU

- 3/12 20:48:31

You are the personification of hypocrisy pickle. (nm) - JeffB MU

- 3/12 20:51:15

RE: You are the personification of hypocrisy pickle. (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/12 20:55:53

if that is your point then you’re dodging the question - pickle MU

- 3/12 20:41:28

Chad is the example, not the argument Mr. Hypocrite. (nm) - JeffB MU

- 3/12 20:43:30

“What gives the officer the authority to kidnap him?” - pickle MU

- 3/12 20:45:47

why would you use that as an example unless you were - ashtray UF - 3/12 20:44:13

Given that most police are carrying guns would that mean - JeffB MU

- 3/12 20:10:56

Once again you don’t answer a question. - pickle MU

- 3/12 20:12:51

Mr. hypocrite himself pontificating once again. (nm) - JeffB MU

- 3/12 20:16:57

the only hypocrite here is you, Jeff (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/12 20:17:33

You are such a dishonest person pickle. (nm) - JeffB MU

- 3/12 20:26:55

no, Jeff. (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/12 20:32:23

Yes pickle. (nm) - JeffB MU

- 3/12 20:35:28

alright, i’ll humor you - pickle MU

- 3/12 20:40:15

It isn't a sound bite. The fact that you have so frequently - JeffB MU

- 3/12 21:14:48

answer the question, Jeff - pickle MU

- 3/12 21:27:18

In most cases, yes. Of course - ashtray UF - 3/12 20:12:35

Do you think the anarchy of Chad would be preferable to - JeffB MU

- 3/12 20:15:30

can you please answer my question - ashtray UF - 3/12 20:17:16

Fair enough. My contention is that your apparant attempt at - JeffB MU

- 3/12 20:25:56

you didn’t answer the question (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/12 20:30:30

what's different about the cop? - ashtray UF - 3/12 20:29:51

America, like all other countries and societies has a social - JeffB MU

- 3/12 20:37:00

no, Jeff. there is no social contract - pickle MU

- 3/12 20:38:26

I never signed a contract (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/12 20:37:35

lol another question you don’t answer - pickle MU

- 3/12 20:16:41

Mr. hypocrite himself pontificating once again. (nm) - JeffB MU

- 3/12 20:17:15

he's right, Jeff. Why won't you answer a question - ashtray UF - 3/12 20:17:49

I answered yours, though I noted that it was a poor analogy(nm) - JeffB MU

- 3/12 20:28:54

you haven’t answered a single question (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/12 20:29:51

he does this in every thread - pickle MU

- 3/12 20:20:10

what a hypocrite (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/12 20:20:48

six posts you asked a question - pickle MU

- 3/12 20:25:47

you are incapable of answering a question (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/12 19:54:46

You are such a pathetic hypocrite pickle. (nm) - JeffB MU

- 3/12 20:01:05

you don’t answer questions, Jeff. answer the question (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/12 20:03:48

Mr. hypocrite himself pontificating once again. (nm) - JeffB MU

- 3/12 20:12:32

there’s no hypocrisy, Jeff - pickle MU

- 3/12 20:14:31

You are the epitomy of hypocrisy pickle, running and hiding - JeffB MU

- 3/12 20:50:27

wow, the irony is rich (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/12 20:52:09

he’s mentally unstable (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/12 21:01:12

RE: he’s mentally unstable (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/12 21:02:08

if if if (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/12 16:53:17

Hide, hide, hide. (nm) - JeffB MU

- 3/12 16:53:53

i’m right here, Jeff - pickle MU

- 3/12 16:58:36

You're hiding from the questions, pickle. You could easily - JeffB MU

- 3/12 17:49:15

How's do you know he thought he was 16? - ashtray UF - 3/12 20:05:34

you mean explain to you, not “us”. and you didn’t ask - pickle MU

- 3/12 17:56:00

I asked the questions in the original post with you in mind, - JeffB MU

- 3/12 18:06:59

No you didn’t. “How about yourself?” - pickle MU

- 3/12 18:28:57

Still dancing and dodging I see. Don't be such a hypocrite. - JeffB MU

- 3/12 18:37:13

I directly addressed your post and corrected you - pickle MU

- 3/12 18:40:40

More deflection... running and hiding from the questions. - JeffB MU

- 3/12 18:56:18

i directly addressed that post too, Jeff - pickle MU

- 3/12 19:00:10

Your dancing and dodging, not to mention your hypocrisy - JeffB MU

- 3/12 19:02:46

Jeff, pay attention - pickle MU

- 3/12 19:26:28

Your deflections don't hide your hypocrisy nor your duplicit - JeffB MU

- 3/12 19:48:24

you’re going off the rails, Jeff - pickle MU

- 3/12 19:54:08

Your duplicitous deflections aren't hiding your cowardice - JeffB MU

- 3/12 20:02:05

Jeff, every accusation you have made is wrong - pickle MU

- 3/12 20:04:44

RE: If he killed the police for trying to arrest him would he be - scan MU - 3/12 16:31:48

Or you looked like an undercover policeman. (nm) - JeffB MU

- 3/12 16:33:39

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