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Posted on: June 23, 2020 at 21:41:16 CT
JeffB MU
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What is the true problem with cases of COVID increasing as long as there is no overtaxing of medical facilities that keep those needing medical care from getting it?
By posting that you seemed to imply that there *is* an "overtaxing of the medical facilities that keep those needing medical care from getting it". The article itself seemed to indicate that they were getting somewhat closer to that point, but that they weren't there yet.
Data from the Southeast Texas Regional Advisory Council show almost 1,488 ICU beds are in-use, out of 1,622 available.
There are 326 extra surge capacity ICU beds available, too.
Only 381 of those people in ICUs are confirmed or suspected COVID-19 patients, according to SETRAC.
But even if it was getting to overtaxing of the medical system right now, it left his question unanswered.
My own reply is that there might be some additional but undetermined number of deaths from COVID, but that might well also result in FEWER deaths later in the year when the 2nd wave they're warning about is more likely to hit... in the fall/winter season. If we let our herd immunity continue to build without overtaxing the system, that might keep us from overwhelming the system during the peak respiratory illness season later in the year.
Per some physicians, freeing up the governmental restrictions might well save more lives now even if there are more COVID deaths at this time (vs further down the road). The economic problems caused by the shutdowns have caused people to lose businesses they have built over the years with blood, sweat and tears, not to mention much of their life savings. Others have lost jobs, and some have been booted from homes or apartments or fear that they will be. Suicide deaths are estimated to be some 70,000 above normal levels. Alcohol and drug abuse has also spiked. People have been foregoing important medical examinations, tests, and treatments as they try to clear rooms for the COVID tsunami which largely never came. Nurses and doctors have been furloughed and hospitals have been losing millions because of the slowdown.
That was the issue when this began - that we would not be able to take care of those needing it. As long as we have ample capacity to care for anyone needing care, what is the great concern?
I agree. If the cases spike, they need to keep an eye on it & perhaps reevaluate if necessary, but more and more people are developing immunity and the effective reproductive rate of the virus will continue to drop as the herd immunity increases. That is a good thing. They told us we needed to "flatten the curve" and that has been accomplished so far... perhaps too well. Time to ease up and let the natural process play out as best we can to ensure that things won't get out of hand later.
If done well, this should tend to die down naturally on its own.
By posting that you seemed to imply that there *is* an "overtaxing of the medical facilities that keep those needing medical care from getting it". The article itself seemed to indicate that they were getting somewhat closer to that point, but that they weren't there yet.
Data from the Southeast Texas Regional Advisory Council show almost 1,488 ICU beds are in-use, out of 1,622 available.
There are 326 extra surge capacity ICU beds available, too.
Only 381 of those people in ICUs are confirmed or suspected COVID-19 patients, according to SETRAC.
But even if it was getting to overtaxing of the medical system right now, it left his question unanswered.
My own reply is that there might be some additional but undetermined number of deaths from COVID, but that might well also result in FEWER deaths later in the year when the 2nd wave they're warning about is more likely to hit... in the fall/winter season. If we let our herd immunity continue to build without overtaxing the system, that might keep us from overwhelming the system during the peak respiratory illness season later in the year.
Per some physicians, freeing up the governmental restrictions might well save more lives now even if there are more COVID deaths at this time (vs further down the road). The economic problems caused by the shutdowns have caused people to lose businesses they have built over the years with blood, sweat and tears, not to mention much of their life savings. Others have lost jobs, and some have been booted from homes or apartments or fear that they will be. Suicide deaths are estimated to be some 70,000 above normal levels. Alcohol and drug abuse has also spiked. People have been foregoing important medical examinations, tests, and treatments as they try to clear rooms for the COVID tsunami which largely never came. Nurses and doctors have been furloughed and hospitals have been losing millions because of the slowdown.
That was the issue when this began - that we would not be able to take care of those needing it. As long as we have ample capacity to care for anyone needing care, what is the great concern?
I agree. If the cases spike, they need to keep an eye on it & perhaps reevaluate if necessary, but more and more people are developing immunity and the effective reproductive rate of the virus will continue to drop as the herd immunity increases. That is a good thing. They told us we needed to "flatten the curve" and that has been accomplished so far... perhaps too well. Time to ease up and let the natural process play out as best we can to ensure that things won't get out of hand later.
If done well, this should tend to die down naturally on its own.
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You did not answer his question: - JeffB MU - 6/23 21:41:16