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wow, what a stupid post
Posted on: June 12, 2020 at 13:28:25 CT
ashtray
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DH thinks rights come from government
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pickle
MU
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6/12 12:51:01
from gvmt itself! (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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6/12 15:13:19
He also thought slavery was going away
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meatiger
MU
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6/12 13:45:32
you're not on point (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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6/12 15:13:48
It was going away. And I never said it was not a factor,
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/12 14:05:42
i think you’re missing the target here (nm)
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pickle
MU
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6/12 13:58:34
it would have (nm)
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SwampTiger
MU
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6/12 13:56:04
How so?(nm)
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meatiger
MU
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6/12 13:58:06
most likely some mix of costs, international pressure
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SwampTiger
MU
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6/12 14:24:44
Industrialization was already starting in the South. Large
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/12 14:10:47
Laborers were still needed
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meatiger
MU
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6/12 14:20:05
Not in the numbers that would have made the inherent cost
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/12 14:22:33
You have obvioulsy not been to many plants
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meatiger
MU
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6/12 14:23:37
And in the industrialized North they had already discovered
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/12 14:32:53
I'm guessing you are twisting his words.
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Ragnar Danneskjold
MU
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6/12 13:29:47
Yes I said that the government has the right to collect a
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/12 13:44:20
either gvmt has rights or it doesn’t
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pickle
MU
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6/12 13:51:41
People have the right to impose taxes, government is simply
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/12 14:17:00
you sound like a leftist now (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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6/12 14:39:16
well...
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pickle
MU
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6/12 14:46:26
I don't get why he doesn't vote Democrat
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ashtray
UF
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6/12 14:50:51
Because he votes based on what those around him are
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kmawv8
MU
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6/12 15:07:41
where did these rights come from?
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pickle
MU
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6/12 14:23:28
We are not talking about your mythical natural rights we are
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/12 14:27:54
you said people have the right to impose taxes.
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pickle
MU
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6/12 14:36:56
You simply refuse to believe that rights come from the
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/12 14:56:51
So if I get 10 people to agree to take a portion of your
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TigerMatt
STL
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6/15 11:30:21
your view is both wrong and ignorant
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pickle
MU
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6/12 15:49:22
the founders disagree with you
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ashtray
UF
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6/12 14:58:53
Our founding father revolted and went to war to establish
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kmawv8
MU
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6/12 15:05:29
People don't have the right to impose taxes.
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kmawv8
MU
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6/12 14:21:20
Good luck finding a place to live in the world that does
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/12 14:25:08
Where does the right to impose taxes come from?
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kmawv8
MU
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6/12 14:27:35
You consent by your presence here. You were given a
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/12 14:47:02
FINALLY you can vocalize where your ignorance lies.
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kmawv8
MU
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6/12 14:57:51
another non-argument
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pickle
MU
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6/12 14:57:26
non responsive
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ashtray
UF
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6/12 14:51:24
No it was responsive, you just don't like it.
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/12 14:59:38
1. How do you know we are or aren't working to change it
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kmawv8
MU
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6/12 15:02:23
no (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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6/12 14:59:55
the laydown (nm)
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pickle
MU
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6/12 14:27:14
The end of the argument when they're done doing
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kmawv8
MU
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6/12 14:28:16
I figured. Pickle knows what he is(nm)
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Ragnar Danneskjold
MU
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6/12 13:48:32
will you answer Swamp’s question? (nm)
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pickle
MU
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6/12 13:47:41
yes, consistently stupid and dishonest (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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6/12 13:30:12
RE: DH thinks rights come from government
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MOCO SON
MU
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6/12 13:24:11
do you have the right to take property from others by force?
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ashtray
UF
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6/12 13:31:03
You ask that as if "people" are always united. They aren't.
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GA Tiger
MU
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6/12 13:48:28
wrong (nm)
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pickle
MU
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6/12 13:53:06
false
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ashtray
UF
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6/12 13:51:55
Basically what I said. (nm)
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GA Tiger
MU
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6/12 14:02:48
so you were agreeing with me
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ashtray
UF
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6/12 14:04:18
Where have I ever claimed that governments have rights?
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/12 13:10:52
in the taxation thread below
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pickle
MU
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6/12 13:12:25
The people have given the power to collect taxes to the
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/12 13:18:42
“oh, i did say government has rights. you were right” (nm)
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pickle
MU
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6/12 13:34:17
A completely different usage of the word but you go ahead
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/12 13:41:24
No, they are giving you permission to borrow their
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kmawv8
MU
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6/12 13:43:59
You are as dumb as the cucumber.
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/12 13:50:01
it’s not their car
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pickle
MU
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6/12 13:52:28
holy **** lol
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pickle
MU
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6/12 13:43:55
LOL. Right to life, which the government may not
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kmawv8
MU
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6/12 13:26:10
I'm giving you permission to take money from
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ashtray
UF
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6/12 13:29:42
if rights come from government
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pickle
MU
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6/12 13:20:54
Rights don't come from the government you tard!
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/12 13:27:10
where does education as a right come from?
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pickle
MU
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6/12 13:31:08
The people you idiot! You believe in rights as this mystical
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/12 13:36:54
So, a collective group can give my PERSONAL rights
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kmawv8
MU
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6/12 13:40:05
so...
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pickle
MU
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6/12 13:38:40
then you have been consistently wrong
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ashtray
UF
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6/12 13:37:48
oops (nm)
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kmawv8
MU
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6/12 13:15:53
he's tripping all over himself
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ashtray
UF
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6/12 13:13:28
You have the right to remain silent pickle.
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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6/12 13:02:44
what’s the libertarian position on rights?
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pickle
MU
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6/12 13:05:07
Aren't you on record as denying that there is a God?
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/12 13:13:23
oh dear
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pickle
MU
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6/12 13:16:16
Let's be clear. I am mocking you pickle.
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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6/12 13:25:37
you call natural rights “bullshyte”
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pickle
MU
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6/12 13:28:38
Why bother? You never listen to anyone, let alone me.
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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6/12 13:31:46
what are you afraid of?
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pickle
MU
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6/12 13:35:02
lol
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ashtray
UF
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6/12 13:32:57
wow, what a stupid post
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ashtray
UF
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6/12 13:28:25
Why do you believe a libertarian has to believe in natural
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/12 13:20:19
Wow(nm)
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hefeweizen
MU
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6/12 13:24:30
because they are the foundation of libertarianism
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pickle
MU
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6/12 13:22:31
lol (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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6/12 13:22:03
lol... you're really reaching now (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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6/12 13:13:51
You are the ones that claim natural rights are part of our
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/12 13:23:08
what part of “natural” confuses you?
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pickle
MU
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6/12 13:33:14
Yet you conviently ignore the fact that throughout human
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/12 13:56:41
they have always been present
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pickle
MU
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6/12 14:09:17
So you are suggesting that the bird in you example can
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/12 14:20:15
why do you do this?
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pickle
MU
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6/12 14:26:53
it has been present throughout human history
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ashtray
UF
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6/12 13:57:58
exactly. it’s not difficult (nm)
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pickle
MU
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6/12 14:09:40
It was given to them by a proxy while in the egg (nm)
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kmawv8
MU
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6/12 13:34:35
you're not a big reader, so I won't expect you
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ashtray
UF
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6/12 13:27:37
And the founders of this country believed in God.
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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6/12 13:32:23
will you answer Swamp’s question?
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pickle
MU
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6/12 13:36:43
I don't think he will (nm)
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SwampTiger
MU
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6/12 13:44:44
does a creator have to equal God?
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ashtray
UF
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6/12 13:33:42
from the people
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SwampTiger
MU
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6/12 12:55:27