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This was a bad optic, a terrible one.

Posted on: June 2, 2020 at 12:16:24 CT
Macgrantt MU
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The protestors had a constitutional right to assembly until the curfew. The WH Secuirty cleared the area 25 minutes before the curfew, some using physical force (they struck an Australian camrea crew which was recorded).

Trump parades in with several staff members and the AG, without notifying the Church's Rector for an explicit photo-op.He holds up a bible and was asked if it was his. He looked flustered than admitted it wasn't.

He's obviously trying to make the point he's not cowering in a bunker. This would have been fine, if not for the way the path was cleared.I repeat, the protestors have that right as long as we are the land of the free.

When we lose our ability to be objective, we truly have become lost.
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Statement from Rector at St. John's Episcopal Church - TigerJackSwartz MU - 6/2 11:07:03
     This was a bad optic, a terrible one. - Macgrantt MU - 6/2 12:16:24
     Not a Christian response. Where is the outrage?(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 6/2 11:52:08
          The Christians were providing food and comfort - raskolnikov MU - 6/2 11:55:08
               Their gift of hospitality is conditional. Not Christian(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 6/2 12:19:58
     lol literally shaking rn (right now)(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 6/2 11:39:10
     waaaaaaaa - crybaby(nm) - SEC_BIG_GAMEHUNTER SEC - 6/2 11:35:38
          So politics of POTUS over-rides Mission the Churh, the very - raskolnikov MU - 6/2 11:41:29
     Left out the part about being asked to disperse, and - Cubbie MU - 6/2 11:34:11
     Checking my Believe Meter here.... - tigerfans3 MU - 6/2 11:34:05
          because you're a victim of Nazi propaganda (nm) - ashtray UF - 6/2 11:38:38
               Stop....you're killing me - tigerfans3 MU - 6/2 11:39:30
     This is an interesting gauge on Fundamentalist's allegiance - raskolnikov MU - 6/2 11:29:07
          your calling someone else anti-choice - pickle MU - 6/2 12:04:01
          AGNOSTICS FOR TRUMP! - tigerfans3 MU - 6/2 11:38:46
               Sorry(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 6/2 11:44:33
          Trump is better Christian than people running this church.(nm) - Cubbie MU - 6/2 11:35:43
               how do you know he’s a Christian? (nm) - pickle MU - 6/2 12:16:17
               Where in the world do you get the idda Don is a Christian - raskolnikov MU - 6/2 11:37:52
                    he held up a Bible! (nm) - ashtray UF - 6/2 11:39:49
                         Like it was a specimen or a prop - raskolnikov MU - 6/2 11:43:42
          I prefer it to pagans who use it as some book of - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/2 11:31:59
               Slow down dude - raskolnikov MU - 6/2 11:36:49
                    It is is open to all - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/2 11:42:35
                         You take one line from John as definitive of a 3,000 yr old - raskolnikov MU - 6/2 11:47:34
     First, they are shaken by police clearing the area and not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/2 11:17:14
          do you think she's lying or just mistaken about the tear gas - cnk ATL - 6/2 11:33:48
               Are her lips moving? - tigerfans3 MU - 6/2 11:35:16
               Mistaken - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/2 11:34:50
                    I'm making an assumption here that this statement came from - cnk ATL - 6/2 11:38:05
                         She's a chick - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/2 11:41:04
               Mistaken. All canisters are logged(nm) - tman MU - 6/2 11:34:46
                    LOL (nm) - ashtray UF - 6/2 11:41:11
          Regardless, why did they need to clear peaceful protesters - Mo Texan MU - 6/2 11:22:41
               Because any time the president is going somewhere - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/2 11:29:29
                    Dup* - Mo Texan MU - 6/2 11:51:27
                    Not that way and I’ll guarantee I have been on more - Mo Texan MU - 6/2 11:35:17
                         Of course it wasn't that way - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/2 11:40:32
                              Not that way(nm) - Mo Texan MU - 6/2 11:52:01
                         Cleanup crew? - tigerfans3 MU - 6/2 11:36:26
                              No, but interviewing the crazys prior to reminds me of TB(nm) - Mo Texan MU - 6/2 11:47:29
                    That kind of proves the point that they did in fact - kmawv8 MU - 6/2 11:34:17
                         the Nazis are all over the place now - ashtray UF - 6/2 11:42:33
                         Depends on the nature of the threat - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/2 11:35:51
                              They're not used by police in riot control. - kmawv8 MU - 6/2 11:40:23
                                   And there was not a riot where smoke grenades - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/2 11:43:24
                                        Cops don't use smoke canisters in crowd control - kmawv8 MU - 6/2 11:49:24
               Not meaning to be disrespectful here, but the Bible can - Toger STL - 6/2 11:29:28
                    And if carried by a Christian doesn’t require smoke grenades - Mo Texan MU - 6/2 11:39:17
          I prefer being smoke grenaded to tear gassed - El-ahrairah BAMA - 6/2 11:22:09
               When did they launch smoke grenades into a church? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/2 11:30:40
                    Oh it wasn’t actually in the church? - El-ahrairah BAMA - 6/2 11:37:11
                         It was actually in the area leading to the church - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/2 11:43:54
          RE: First, they are shaken by police clearing the area and not - kmawv8 MU - 6/2 11:19:08
          But they had BLACK SHIELDS...like that Garth Vader - Mizzou Lou KC - 6/2 11:18:22
     St. John's Episcopal Church: She's a clown and unworthy - BH O'bonga MU - 6/2 11:13:43
          why (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 6/2 11:14:07
               Because - Toger STL - 6/2 11:18:43
                    RE: Because - scan MU - 6/2 11:20:08
               because they oppose the Nazis - ashtray UF - 6/2 11:15:03
     This has been proven false. They were smoke - kmawv8 MU - 6/2 11:12:32
          the biggest coincidence. One of the biggest in history - TigerJackSwartz MU - 6/2 11:13:54
          lol (nm) - ashtray UF - 6/2 11:12:52
     after the Catholic Church opposed the Nazis - ashtray UF - 6/2 11:10:49
          RE: after the Catholic Church opposed the Nazis - TigerJackSwartz MU - 6/2 11:13:07
               BOOM! (nm) - ashtray UF - 6/2 11:14:27
     He should’ve held up a copy of the constitution - El-ahrairah BAMA - 6/2 11:10:10
     Rector? DAMN NEAR KILLER HER(nm) - cnk ATL - 6/2 11:08:44
          damn you - TigerJackSwartz MU - 6/2 11:12:10




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