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Someone below said they saw a hammer

Posted on: May 8, 2020 at 09:40:41 CT
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If the kid was carrying a hammer, they would be justified in brandishing a firearm. There are two very separate things going on and people want to conflate them. The first is brandishing the firearm, which they clearly did. The evidence will show if it was justified.

The other thing is using the firearm. They didn't do that. All the shots were fired during the struggle for the weapon and it's hard to assign blame to a party in this case for the use of the firearm.

To give you a more clear example, if I have a gun and somebody else is standing near me with a hammer (or a knife, etc) in a place like a convenience store and they clearly aren't fixing something, I am justified to draw my firearm. If they start to approach me while holding the hammer, I am justified to use deadly force and shoot them because a hammer is definitely a deadly weapon and them approaching me is considered force. This is clear-cut justified use of force.

I don't know if the hammer thing is true, I never heard about it in this case until a few minutes ago. All I want to point out is there is a lot of evidence yet to come out in this case that will be used to determine the justification for the display of deadly weapons and the parties intents that led to the shooting. I don't speculate on things like that.
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     Better stay 6 ft (nm) - TheWildcat MU - 5/8 09:30:26
          that would've avoided this whole mess (nm) - TigerNuts KC - 5/8 09:33:01
     It's legal to kill joggers in Georgia?(nm) - alstl MU - 5/8 08:28:40
          White folk don't kill black folk without cause - playhard NWMSU - 5/8 08:46:18
               Highly unlikely - even without a video it's illegal to - alstl MU - 5/8 09:59:47
                    Is that what happened? (nm) - TigerNuts KC - 5/8 10:33:56
               glad to see your idiocy doesn't stop on one board (nm) - Sal MU - 5/8 08:47:43
                    Hi Sal, how are you today?(nm) - playhard NWMSU - 5/8 08:49:31
          Is that what happened? (nm) - TigerNuts KC - 5/8 08:41:03
               If they get away with 2nd degree murder they will be - alstl MU - 5/8 10:04:57
               it appeared to me that he was bobsledding - phrejd MU - 5/8 08:45:38
     they might introduce other evidence during the trial - phrejd MU - 5/8 08:02:55
          The mob has already spoken (nm) - TigerNuts KC - 5/8 08:40:24
               we should be so lucky. i suspect the mob will continue to - phrejd MU - 5/8 08:48:01
          You mean - meatiger MU - 5/8 08:04:35
               Pickle's going to be confused(nm) - tigerdb MU - 5/8 08:06:43
                    you’re confused (nm) - pickle MU - 5/8 11:27:08
                    why? he simply gave his opinion based on the only - 90Tiger STL - 5/8 09:00:14
                         LOL teetee, there are plenty of other inputs available. - tigerdb MU - 5/8 09:10:46
                              you’re being stupid - pickle MU - 5/8 11:28:35
                              Someone below said they saw a hammer - BigDave MU - 5/8 09:40:41
                                   video doesn't show him carrying a hammer - doesn't - tigerdb MU - 5/8 09:51:58
                              Pickle a statist? - meatiger MU - 5/8 09:17:16
                                   and the shooter's dad was one of them. - tigerdb MU - 5/8 09:20:04
                                        i didn’t make any judgment. i stated the actions - pickle MU - 5/8 11:30:10
                                             Without context, the act of armed interference on another - tigerdb MU - 5/8 11:50:05
                    not at all - meatiger MU - 5/8 08:09:02
                         The father/sons statements are evidence.(nm) - tigerdb MU - 5/8 08:10:40
                              Link? - TigerNuts KC - 5/8 08:43:22
                                   RE: Link? - tigerdb MU - 5/8 08:51:59
                                        Was he just out jogging or was he fleeing after being - TigerNuts KC - 5/8 09:27:59
                                             There's certainly enough evidence to warrant an arrest - tigerdb MU - 5/8 09:39:36
                                                  I'm not saying anything they did was smart or justified - TigerNuts KC - 5/8 09:54:16
                                                       BTW, here's the father's statement to police. - tigerdb MU - 5/8 09:59:52
                                                            That the video hasn't been released doesn't mean it - TigerNuts KC - 5/8 10:37:26
                                                                 Did any actual break-ins exist? If so - why weren't they - tigerdb MU - 5/8 10:57:25
                                        why does everyone keep calling him a jogger? (nm) - phrejd MU - 5/8 08:53:01
                                             He didn't appear to be sprinting - tigerdb MU - 5/8 08:55:26
     I don't see how they don't get convicted of at least the - StaleyTiger MU - 5/8 07:41:54
          The supposed crime hasn't even been identified - Grasslands MU - 5/8 08:14:32
          "he was jogging" - phrejd MU - 5/8 08:07:54
               he was carrying a hammer during the "jog" - zoomer 99 - 5/8 09:18:04
                    I didn't notice that - Sal MU - 5/8 09:22:30
                         RE: I didn't notice that - zoomer 99 - 5/8 09:31:04
                              grenade launcher (nm) - TigerNuts KC - 5/8 09:32:25
               bottom line - Iam4Mizzou MU - 5/8 08:29:06
                    that's good advice, iam. thank you for sharing it with us. - phrejd MU - 5/8 08:33:47
                         Iam gets 1/3 of whatever you make(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 5/8 08:49:06
                         RE: that's good advice, iam. thank you for sharing it with us. - scan MU - 5/8 08:44:06
                              you mispelled - XRob MU - 5/8 09:33:06
                         oh god - Iam4Mizzou MU - 5/8 08:38:19
                              we're in this together, man. serious question though: - phrejd MU - 5/8 08:44:25
                                   The assailants were known by the cops - DC Jayhawk KU - 5/8 11:12:15
                                   you would be surprised and disappointed - Iam4Mizzou MU - 5/8 10:27:42
                                   probably because they're having Sunday dinner together - XRob MU - 5/8 09:33:58
               maybe it was a The Running Man training session gone - cnk ATL - 5/8 08:20:41
               Pure conjecture - Grasslands MU - 5/8 08:14:55
               maybe he was fleeing the people unlawfully trying to - MrBlueSky MU - 5/8 08:13:42
                    appears to be the case. but what was he doing before that? - phrejd MU - 5/8 08:31:46
                         Yeah, there's a reason one of the dudes was - Sal MU - 5/8 08:33:10
     you mean next spring?(nm) - Iam4Mizzou MU - 5/8 07:39:09
     Depends on the makeup of the jury.(nm) - tgr MU - 5/8 07:31:06
     RE: There's gonna be a riot in Georgia in a few weeks - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/8 07:14:15




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