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and yet we're using those models as justification
Posted on: April 13, 2020 at 13:25:02 CT
CulturedDan
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Wait, now MO is supposed to peak on 4/26/20
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Sal
MU
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4/13 13:04:03
I peaked last night
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615Tiger
STL
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4/13 13:47:18
did you forget to lotion yer hand? don't want it chapped(nm)
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TigerFan92
MU
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4/13 14:29:01
And it might go back to 5/18. Forecasting Techniques 101(nm)
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miz_zou
MU
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4/13 13:36:24
Yeah, the models they are using change on the time...
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Gyro
MU
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4/13 13:19:09
do you support the gov and mayors' orders? (nm)
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SwampTiger
MU
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4/13 13:25:36
I absolutely think the economy should not be re-opened...
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Gyro
MU
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4/13 13:28:17
wow (nm)
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pickle
MU
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4/13 14:33:44
What does "the threat has passed" mean to you?(nm)
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dangertim
MU
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4/13 13:44:43
The threat won't pass until a vaccine is available
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Sal
MU
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4/13 13:28:52
not to mention a new vaccine is needed every year
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ashtray
UF
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4/13 13:45:42
So the only question...
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Gyro
MU
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4/13 13:29:29
so you think the order should remain in place until there is
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SwampTiger
MU
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4/13 13:31:13
and yet we're using those models as justification
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dangertim
MU
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4/13 13:25:02
What do you suggest?
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Gyro
MU
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4/13 13:27:02
not to use faulty assumptions to destroy the economy.
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dangertim
MU
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4/13 13:28:16
So you're saying the modeling is unreliable...
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Gyro
MU
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4/13 13:30:02
So if the data isn't reliable
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Sal
MU
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4/13 13:27:37
What else is there to do/use?
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MrBlueSky
MU
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4/13 13:29:52
Principles. (nm)
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ummmm
MU
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4/13 14:02:29
common sense and liberty-mindedness(nm)
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MizzouAstro
MU
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4/13 13:58:40
You seem to accept that with the current models lol (nm)
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Sal
MU
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4/13 13:30:38
lol he's so dumb(nm)
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Ragnar Danneskjold
MU
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4/13 13:45:15
They're based on the data in real time
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MrBlueSky
MU
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4/13 13:31:40
He was thinking "model" as in tall Ukranian woman...
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Gyro
MU
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4/13 13:34:31
The data has been awful (nm)
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Sal
MU
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4/13 13:32:03
That is a function
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MrBlueSky
MU
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4/13 13:32:30
And a lack of good data...
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Gyro
MU
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4/13 13:33:46
Be that as it may, if the data is bad and the resulting
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ummmm
MU
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4/13 14:03:51
So you both are admitting the data is terrible
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Sal
MU
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4/13 13:34:22
Oh Sal, first of all, you still haven't answered...
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Gyro
MU
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4/13 13:35:51
you didn't answer mine (nm)
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SwampTiger
MU
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4/13 13:43:40
I answered it (nm)
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Sal
MU
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4/13 13:37:23
Link?(nm)
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Gyro
MU
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4/13 13:38:55
I said I don't agree with any shelter in place orders
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Sal
MU
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4/13 13:43:04
lmfao you are dumb as f*** (nm)
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Sal
MU
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4/13 13:33:45
How is it not? (nm)
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MrBlueSky
MU
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4/13 13:34:14
Trumpian level free stylin'...
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Gyro
MU
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4/13 13:30:35
Great point...what should they use?
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Gyro
MU
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4/13 13:28:55
What are Trump's metrics?
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Sal
MU
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4/13 13:30:23
Not sure, he pointed to his head when asked...remember?
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Gyro
MU
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4/13 13:31:05
It's almost like they don't really have much confidence
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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4/13 13:06:13
Or it's almost like they adjust the model when they get new
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SparkyStalcup
MU
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4/13 13:18:34
If your model goes from 1 million, to 200k to 100k to 50k
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Ragnar Danneskjold
MU
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4/13 13:26:12
and we used the models from 2 weeks ago to shut down
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dangertim
MU
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4/13 13:25:32
Yet always seem to skew thoughts to a worst case scenario
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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4/13 13:19:30
I think it is nearly impossible to predict and project the
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hokie
VT
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4/13 13:09:38
I am sympathetic as well
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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4/13 13:12:41
Maybe michigan. But maybe not. And if trump is wrong and
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hokie
VT
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4/13 13:20:20
I am with you, and I am so thankful we have a businessman
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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4/13 13:27:27
Agree. I just don't know where the line is between safe and
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hokie
VT
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4/13 13:29:14
Totally agree with that - and caution is good
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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4/13 13:36:37
what's the next phase?
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ashtray
UF
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4/13 13:41:47
I am not sure the economy is a screwed as some think
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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4/13 13:49:19
I'm less concerned about the economy and more
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SwampTiger
MU
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4/13 14:03:35
I see them as one and the same
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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4/13 14:04:49
yeah, I get that, but saying economy makes it easier
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SwampTiger
MU
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4/13 14:11:47
every pillar wasn't really all that strong
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ashtray
UF
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4/13 14:00:56
There was an interest rate bubble from holding them down for
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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4/13 14:04:01
China's lockdown was all it took
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ashtray
UF
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4/13 14:51:16
it’s almost like it’s all about control (nm)
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pickle
MU
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4/13 13:07:45
Neither does Fauci
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Sal
MU
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4/13 13:07:28
It's almost like as more data becomes available
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Da_Haze
KC
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4/13 13:05:43
then why didn't they wait for more accurate info before
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dangertim
MU
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4/13 13:26:10
Hey pal... that's not how the TB
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mizzoumurfkc
KC
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4/13 13:17:50
do you support the gov and mayors' orders? (nm)
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SwampTiger
MU
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4/13 13:18:50
I don't like any of it...
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mizzoumurfkc
KC
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4/13 13:32:13
deference to authority
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SwampTiger
MU
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4/13 13:38:09
One doesn’t have to be a rocket scientist to see the number
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tigerNkc
MU
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4/13 13:11:36
or that model is just junk (nm)
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Sal
MU
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4/13 13:06:54
do you support the MO stay at home order shutting down
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SwampTiger
MU
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4/13 13:06:38
Since I can't ban non essential county to county travel
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Da_Haze
KC
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4/13 13:09:34
it's not rampant in KC(nm)
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dangertim
MU
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4/13 13:26:55
COVID isn't running rampant in KC (nm)
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Sal
MU
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4/13 13:11:13
so what's the criteria for ending it? (nm)
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SwampTiger
MU
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4/13 13:10:43
What a silly question to ask
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Da_Haze
KC
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4/13 13:23:15
silly but then you answered it?
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SwampTiger
MU
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4/13 13:29:26
ok, missouri's healthcare won't be overran. Open it up?(nm)
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dangertim
MU
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4/13 13:27:31
BUT IT'S SCIENCE! (nm)
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hefeweizen
MU
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4/13 13:05:18
It's political science. nm
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hokie
VT
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4/13 13:06:05
Yes. Trump and his advisers are deliberately tanking
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Da_Haze
KC
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4/13 13:07:38
Of course hazel. Off you go. nm
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hokie
VT
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4/13 13:10:17
It's political(nm)
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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4/13 13:07:31
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee(nm)
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Ragnar Danneskjold
MU
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4/13 13:04:28