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No one foresees when bubbles will pop. Even those

Posted on: February 21, 2020 at 23:08:20 CT
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who see them and warn about them can be WAY off on the timing.

I remembered learning in finance classes about diversification. Mutual funds were the big thing. They were supposed to drastically reduce the risks of the stock market because you had such a diversity of stocks. One company could surprise to the downside, but that would be made up for by other companies surprising to the upside.

And if you had bonds and other fixed income instruments that moderated returns even better. When stocks went up, bonds tended to go down.

Another level of diversity was precious metals etc.

That all made a lot of sense, but when Black Monday hit EVERYTHING DROPPED. People found to their dismay that there was a lot of linkage. Guys getting hammered in stocks had to sell bonds, precious metals etc. to meet their margin requirements. So much for the presumed safety in diversity. Obviously it helps, but there is also a lot of linkage even around the world. Foreign investments can also have additional risks due to additional taxation, regulations, nationalization and currency risks.

Yet another factor are the algorithms used in computer trading. Many traders complain of a rigged system. Some of the big boys can manipulate the markets and have computers right next to the computers on the exchange and can game the system. Sometimes they have crashes caused by problems with those algorithms. There have been times when an alleged "fat finger" mistake caused prices to plummet causing stop losses to be broken and the crash cascades as those stop losses are hit and price really plummet. That has caused some big losses for people were suddenly pushed out of positions because of those stop losses and then the prices bounce right back to where they were, or the exchange reverses some "accidental" whale trades but some people get ripped off.

I think those algorithms can exacerbate true market crashes and add additional risk. They could possibly be the catalyst for popping a bubble in a bad situation.
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     you guys are really flailing at this, time to educate - Savage KC - 2/22 07:15:05
     There has to be a catalyst to “burst” a bubble - tiger4real MU - 2/21 18:36:15
          The bubble... A link to the monetary base... - JeffB MU - 2/21 20:47:56
               So what happens next? - tiger4real MU - 2/21 21:29:50
                    Bubbles are notoriously difficult to predict. They have a - JeffB MU - 2/21 21:53:40
                         I remember a seminar hosted by The Economist a little while - JeffB MU - 2/21 22:05:48
                              I remember it well, only it didn’t go BOOM in my mind - tiger4real MU - 2/21 22:21:32
                                   The government bailed out the US & many banks around - JeffB MU - 2/21 22:37:17
                                        The only thing that could stop the US - tiger4real MU - 2/21 22:45:18
                                             No one foresees when bubbles will pop. Even those - JeffB MU - 2/21 23:08:20
                         Paul Krugman has been wrong most of his career - tiger4real MU - 2/21 22:01:38
                              Actually, there have been quite a few around the world - JeffB MU - 2/21 22:23:16
                                   In 2008 it sure happened to us, that’s for sure. - tiger4real MU - 2/21 22:36:43
                                        It's probably not the end of the world, but many countries - JeffB MU - 2/21 22:41:55
                                             Democracy helps(nm) - tiger4real MU - 2/21 22:49:28
                                                  Yes, but the US republic seems a lot more brittle and less - JeffB MU - 2/21 23:18:12
          They were saying the same thing before 'The Great - JeffB MU - 2/21 20:15:28
               He nailed it, for sure. - tiger4real MU - 2/21 21:22:05
                    Current debt per family is $893,223 not counting - JeffB MU - 2/21 21:37:57
                         RE: Current debt per family is $893,223 not counting - tiger4real MU - 2/21 21:50:35
                              As Peter Schiff noted, those values can be illusory. As my - JeffB MU - 2/21 22:54:23
          true And with the world economy down inflation is not likely - TigerFan92 MU - 2/21 20:07:26
          Bubbles are solely created by interventionist gvmt - pickle MU - 2/21 19:18:11
               The Austrian Business Cycle Theory is after all, a theory - tiger4real MU - 2/21 20:03:50
                    It’s not predictive; it’s descriptive - pickle MU - 2/21 20:34:13
                         Name a few..?(nm) - tiger4real MU - 2/21 21:31:27
                              the housing bubble, the dot com bubble - pickle MU - 2/21 22:18:25
                    The Great Depression happened shortly after the Federal - JeffB MU - 2/21 20:22:03
          lol - meatiger MU - 2/21 18:57:13
               I think you meant debt is valued too “high” ? - tiger4real MU - 2/21 20:07:00
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          Not sure what you mean. Could you expound upon that a little - JeffB MU - 2/21 20:25:06
     The Austrians are right. - ummmm MU - 2/21 17:41:49
          It would happen anyway - pickle MU - 2/21 20:32:42
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          Nooooop(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 2/21 20:06:33
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          The Austrians are right like a broken clock is right 2x - SparkyStalcup MU - 2/21 17:59:32
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                         You correct people in the same manner all the time. - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 18:30:02
                              they weren’t early humans (nm) - pickle MU - 2/21 19:29:16
                                   Yes there were. - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 20:51:28
                                        it’s amazing how ****ing stupid you are (nm) - pickle MU - 2/21 22:20:28
                                        lmfao (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 2/21 21:30:33
                         He's firmly in that group. (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/21 18:28:24
                              lol (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 18:30:41
                                   he’s right - pickle MU - 2/21 19:32:33
                                   I'm sorry, but it is true. (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/21 18:48:34
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