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That is not true, utilities are not fossil fuel companies

Posted on: February 21, 2020 at 15:33:09 CT

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they are in the business of generating electricity. They will select the most cost effective method of doing so. Nat gas is more cost effective than coal, so they are making the switch wholesale.

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World’s largest financier of fossil fuels has warned clients - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:12:18

we Are all gonna die !!!!!! - TigerFan92 MU - 2/21 20:15:38

RE: World’s largest financier of fossil fuels has warned clients - Tigrrrr! MU

- 2/21 17:33:09

The only solution is higher taxes and a government take over - hefeweizen MU

- 2/21 15:35:43

You're doing it again(nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:51:20

There's one other solution for me now. - Toger STL - 2/21 15:44:49

At your age you'd be doing everyone a favor to ****te - tigerfans3 MU - 2/21 16:18:13

This is the biggest scam that the leftist, globalist elites - jonesin - 2/21 15:24:49

go on, what happens next (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU

- 2/21 15:31:29

Commies like you acquiesce and take our country with you. - jonesin - 2/21 15:37:06

and then, what do you and your buddies do? (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU

- 2/21 15:39:37

Act rudely. - jonesin - 2/21 15:42:02

What is your basis for doubting it? There has to be one, - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 15:28:50

Jesus GAT. Did you read the post? I think I covered it. - jonesin - 2/21 15:38:02

You indicated you disagreed. That explains nothing as - GA Tiger MU - 2/21 15:53:27

he explained why, you simply don't understand it (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 2/21 18:58:38

China is the world's leading producer of energy from - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:25:46

That must be why their air is so clean. - Emoji Man MSU - 2/21 15:58:00

And world leader in pollution from coal. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/21 15:27:15

China has undergone industrialization in the last 70 years - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:28:16

You deluded fool. No, they aren't. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/21 19:29:04

BS. China doesn't kowtow to UN/European drivel. - jonesin - 2/21 15:32:55

Yup. All thanks to pussies like BlewGuys. - Emoji Man MSU - 2/21 15:59:23

China is currently building hundreds of coal power plants - Ferg STL - 2/21 15:31:19

Did you miss the part about China industrializing - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:32:42

since China is building new power plants, why wouldn't they - Ferg STL - 2/21 15:34:57

They're doing both, ferg. China has several of the largest - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:36:22

Then MOVE YOUR COMMIE ASS TO CHINA, SON. - jonesin - 2/21 15:33:55

And also the worlds leading supplier of airborne pollution. - jonesin - 2/21 15:27:08

correct, they have industrialized in the last century - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:31:13

China has more total output though... - mizzouSECedes STL - 2/21 15:44:29

Of course China emits a lot of carbon. I've said that - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:45:25

Not a lot...the most in the world - mizzouSECedes STL - 2/21 15:48:30

Per capita matters, of course. We are countries of - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:53:23

For sure, per capita does matter from a country - mizzouSECedes STL - 2/21 16:01:29

lol (nm) - pickle MU

- 2/21 15:21:01

COVID-19 says "Don't worry, I'll fix it." (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 15:18:29

Hold my petri dish and watch this!(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU

- 2/21 15:58:28

Poppycock. nm. - MUTGR MU - 2/21 15:18:01

Even more reason to build a southern wall - Ragnar Danneskjold MU

- 2/21 15:16:24

But it's porous & will let the water through. Maybe he needs - JeffB MU

- 2/21 15:17:55

Do you think funding for fossil fuel projects will start - JeffB MU

- 2/21 15:15:14

They should, the price per kilowatt hour of energy - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:17:34

Are Exxon execs just morons, investing so many billions - JeffB MU

- 2/21 15:19:07

The fossil fuel industry is a 20th century industry - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:20:27

Do you have no trust in capitalism? Do you disbelieve that - JeffB MU

- 2/21 15:33:18

Sure, but for centuries now, the externalities of fossil - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:35:07

So you are saying that under current circumstances fossil - JeffB MU

- 2/21 15:38:15

No gov't intervention needed. The true costs of fossil fuels - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:39:04

Government intervention or 'moral suasion' are the only two - JeffB MU

- 2/21 15:41:04

coal is dead but petro and nat gas will be around - Ferg STL - 2/21 15:24:01

Solar is cheaper per kilowatt hour of energy production - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:24:55

But how well does that translate into transportation for - JeffB MU

- 2/21 15:35:39

I'm speaking only of energy production - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:48:55

Tesla is a leader & is producing in China & Europe. (nm) - JeffB MU

- 2/21 16:32:01

in a perfect situation it can be, but not in all - Ferg STL - 2/21 15:28:54

Storage costs are still too high - Spanky KU - 2/21 15:34:22

Because the fossil fuel industry is a 20th century - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:30:23

I think you are leaving some variables out of the equation, - JeffB MU

- 2/21 15:43:49

That is not true, utilities are not fossil fuel companies - Ferg STL - 2/21 15:33:09

And you still are ignoring the information I shared - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:38:32

Are those marginal costs? Do they include batteries or other - JeffB MU

- 2/21 15:51:04

Elon Musk's long distance electric tractor trailers aren't - JeffB MU

- 2/21 16:26:23

just listen to this, jeff - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:52:13

That's great. We're considering getting an electric vehicle - JeffB MU

- 2/21 16:29:17

Then they should get out of the financing - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/21 15:13:54

RE: Then they should get out of the financing - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:14:44

Then they should get out of the business - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/21 15:16:57

It would cost them too much to do that without the governmen - JeffB MU

- 2/21 15:31:29

Should world government be able to force them to stop? (nm) - JeffB MU

- 2/21 15:15:53

No, companies should make the economic choice on\ - MrBlueSky MU - 2/21 15:22:33

Then you don't really need to convince anyone. The companies - JeffB MU

- 2/21 16:41:19