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That's just sad. Being held hostage isn't a win-win

Posted on: January 2, 2020 at 13:24:15 CT
JimD MU
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And it's what we escaped when we realized that Texas couldn't be worked with.

Healthy conferences require healthy partners.

K-State is basically an abused woman that stays in a terrible marriage because her husband earns the money.
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Big 12 Bowl summary - record 1 win, 5 losses (.167) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 1/2 09:35:18
     meanwhile Mizzou would not have competed in the Big 12 - Iam4Mizzou MU - 1/2 12:45:52
          They dish-ragged Big 12 opponent West Virginia. (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 1/2 14:24:35
          Yeah, that's not true - JimD MU - 1/2 13:25:27
          Ehhhhhhh disagree (nm) - Da_Haze KC - 1/2 13:09:16
     schadenfreude(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 11:40:12
          how hot was it in Memphis on Tuesday?(nm) - dangertim MU - 1/2 12:55:08
               great game and the reason bowls make sense ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:56:41
                    answer the question(nm) - dangertim MU - 1/2 13:03:02
                         50's - great football weather and great game(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:04:10
                              you lost AND it wasn't hot? - dangertim MU - 1/2 13:04:50
                                   what? k-state had tons of fans ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:07:20
                                        Tons of fans, but not very many(nm) - Shu MU - 1/2 13:49:29
                                             LOL - Gary P. MU - 1/2 17:50:34
                                             Well done Shu! (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 1/2 14:25:38
                                        they went to the game they cared about(nm) - dangertim MU - 1/2 13:41:58
                                        Lol(nm) - TheWildcat MU - 1/2 13:21:33
          There's 15 - JayHoaxH8r MU - 1/2 12:53:22
          facts (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 1/2 12:14:01
               clearly, facts you take pleasure in ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:21:20
                    Hey...you stupid dumb*ss! You are on an SEC board! Get - ROLLATIGER MU - 1/2 13:00:49
                    RE: clearly, facts you take pleasure in ... - dangertim MU - 1/2 12:59:47
                    you're projecting. I mean who still comes to an SEC board? - TigerJackSwartz MU - 1/2 12:50:56
                         i comment on b12 related matters ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:53:34
                              You're a pathetic LYING LIAR: - Gary P. MU - 1/2 13:00:35
                                   more caps will help make your point(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:01:58
                              you initiate threads. You lied when you left - TigerJackSwartz MU - 1/2 12:55:29
                                   once in awhile i'll ask a question, yes(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:58:01
                    You're lying once again; purple grapes were never a rival - Gary P. MU - 1/2 12:33:23
                         Bob's an old politician. If his lips are moving - TigerJackSwartz MU - 1/2 12:54:33
                              don't you have to go flip hamburgers soon?(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:58:37
                                   I'd take being a hamburger flipper over being a scummy - TigerJackSwartz MU - 1/2 13:12:34
          Question: - AllThingsKC KC - 1/2 11:43:20
               i believe it would be better if the conference ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 11:45:38
                    So then why do K-State fans tolerate this? - AllThingsKC KC - 1/2 11:49:41
                         k-state has as much power in this conference ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 11:58:46
                              No, K-State has much less power - JimD MU - 1/2 12:48:26
                                   yes, if texas is happy that is good for k-state ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:49:32
                                        That's just sad. Being held hostage isn't a win-win - JimD MU - 1/2 13:24:15
                                        What are you not admitting to? - Genco98 MU - 1/2 13:06:10
                                             i'm not admitting to anything ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:08:32
                                                  Isn't that what they want you to admit and you've - Genco98 MU - 1/2 13:11:53
                                                       some of these guys are petty others slow(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:33:07
                              You make a declaration & promptly go about shooting holes in - Gary P. MU - 1/2 12:20:45
                                   what the hell?(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:22:27
                                        Here, you lying POS: - Gary P. MU - 1/2 12:29:36
                                             go away if you don't want to have a reasoned discussion(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:30:52
                                                  1) Mizzou board you so dramatically left. 2) You lied - Gary P. MU - 1/2 12:36:37
                                                       please, go to another topic for your sophomoric nonsense(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:38:36
                                                            If you can't rebut that fact that you are demonstrated, - TigerJackSwartz MU - 1/2 12:59:46
                                                                 sophomoric ^^^ and that's being unkind to sophomores(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:01:11
                              I can translate this. - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:01:18
                                   your little attempted diatribes are funny(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:04:19
                                        You are a lying POS. It's what you do here - Gary P. MU - 1/2 12:28:53
                                             brilliant ^^^ you on missouri's debate team?(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:31:50
                                                  When you can't respond; deflect (LIE) - Gary P. MU - 1/2 12:37:35
                                                       please stop(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:39:02
                                                            ⬆️ Witness ⤴️ - Gary P. MU - 1/2 12:53:45
                                        Here is another translation for you - STRIPES - 1/2 12:15:44
                                        You've come a long way in admitting your position - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:15:11
                                             that's a false narrative promulgated by former rivals ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:18:10
                                                  You were never a rival. Simply an embarrassing nuisance. - Gary P. MU - 1/2 12:30:59
                                                       i think jack hartman, bill snyder, gary pinkel, and norm ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:33:00
                                                            You're a senile LIAR. Leave as promised, LIAR (nm) - Gary P. MU - 1/2 12:38:27
                                                                 well, you're probably half right as i just had that birthday - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:39:35
                                                  But is that truly good for the conference. If there is - Me?Justafan MU - 1/2 12:24:50
                                                       there's a ton of money to share ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:30:00
                                                            The gap is getting wider every year. - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:39:50
                                                                 there's no question that revenue expansion ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:41:35
                                                                      So why do you always play dumb and talk profits instead - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:46:53
                                                                           um, i don't believe that is correct ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:48:22
                                                                                I didn't say that nor did I insinuate that. - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:51:29
                                                                                     you saying miz is successful on the athletic field, really?(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:55:14
                                                                                          I didn't say that either. Sometimes I think you're - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:56:49
                                                                                               what you wrote: - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:59:28
                                                                                                    What I didn't write: - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 13:07:12
                                                                                                         that is a totally false statement ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:09:50
                                                                                                              I was being nice for a while because you were actually - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 13:12:57
                                                                                                                   miz has been on a downward path since sec(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:36:42
                                                                                                                        No it hasn't. - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 13:48:04
                                                                                                    do you disagree with this? Do you not understand what - lqf2b8 MU - 1/2 13:02:55
                                                                                                         He very clearly doesn't even have a basic grasp on - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 13:13:29
                                                                                                         increased revenue does not = successful football/hoops(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:03:39
                                                                                                              agreed but is there a correlation as was stated(nm) - lqf2b8 MU - 1/2 14:44:44
                                                            Compared to the B1G and soon to be the SEC? B1G and SEC are - Me?Justafan MU - 1/2 12:33:25
                                                                 could be and that could change the dynamics ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:37:42
                                                                      ...and the next school is 33 - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:41:52
                                                                           and MU for all its problems is still bringing in more than - Me?Justafan MU - 1/2 12:46:28
                                                                                ku football is a burden(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:47:14
                                                                                     yet....they lap KSU in revenue. - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 13:00:38
                                                                                          actually, their big money is from contributions ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:02:41
                                                                                               Sure, that's a big part of it too. - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 13:14:43
                                                                           your last sentence is high irony(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:43:00
                                                                                I never said it would happen this year or next. - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:45:22
                                                                                     if missouri didn't leave the b12 would be stable today(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:46:12
                                                                                          good grief you are a phucking idiot - TigerJackSwartz MU - 1/2 13:57:29
                                                                                          No it wouldn't. - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:49:58
                                                                                               this is a discussion without merit ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:51:38
                                                                                                    What you're unwilling to admit is the reason for the - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:54:29
                                                                                                         i've said many times if missouri i'd have done the same(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:00:16
                                                                                                              and the vast majority of people associated with the Big XII - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 13:10:19
                                                                      Because they play by different rules, LIAR. GTFO (nm) - Gary P. MU - 1/2 12:39:29
                                                       Yes it will. But as long as the other 9 members don't have - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:26:49
                                                            not sure there are good options for any of the members ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:35:32
                                                                 Texas will give up the lhn if and when it makes financial - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:38:03
                                                                      so would missouri, right?(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:40:30
                                                                           Missouri would jump to the Big 10? - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:43:17
                                                                           Not anymore. nm, - Me?Justafan MU - 1/2 12:42:19
                                                                                umm, we really don't know that ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:44:04
                                                                                     No they're not. They have support of the Commissioner in - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:52:44
                                                                                          yes, i've read some really hurtful comments(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:05:13
                                                                                               don't belong - best of bad choices ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:06:12
                                                                                                    Let me explain something to you. Absolutely NO school - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 13:09:31
                                                                                     We would be worse off than kNowledge U. That dries up - Me?Justafan MU - 1/2 12:50:26
                                                                                     no - JayHoaxH8r MU - 1/2 12:45:38
                                                  liar (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 1/2 12:21:15
                                                       see, there you go again, little man(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:22:50
                                                            Is he wrong? You lied & are still here, DramaB!tch (nm) - Gary P. MU - 1/2 12:40:57
                                                                 he and you are just trying to ruin a discussion(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:42:09
     I sort of wish we were still in the B12 ... - Gamagrass MU - 1/2 10:20:01
          A school like Missouri - Tigerfish MU - 1/2 13:27:43
          that's kietzman logic. - dangertim MU - 1/2 13:02:21
          I wish we were still in the Big 8................. - MNTIGER MU - 1/2 12:59:32
          Big12 future is dependent on UT/OU. Either leaves it's over(nm) - miz_zou MU - 1/2 11:34:32
          RE: What Jon Sunvold said - 1sg MU - 1/2 11:28:40
               I bet his dumb, fired a$$ loved hearing that (nm) - Gary P. MU - 1/2 11:49:18
               Boy I would have love to have heard Kietzman's response - Genco98 MU - 1/2 11:40:31
                    RE: Boy I would have love to have heard Kietzman's response - 1sg MU - 1/2 13:51:10
          The local media here in St. Louis hated the Big 12 - Genco98 MU - 1/2 11:16:16
               It's the Southwest Conference 2.0 - Guinny_Ire MU - 1/2 14:38:22
          Gotta be serious when an SEC member...otherwise - Turn2 MU - 1/2 11:13:01
          I like football road trips. And Big 12 roadies are putrid - TigerJackSwartz MU - 1/2 10:49:27
               The stability is the key - Genco98 MU - 1/2 11:25:50
          I think the SEC is so much more fun especially now that we - cruiser MU - 1/2 10:45:41
          RE: I sort of wish we were still in the B12 ... - SEMO_Hillbilly UMKC - 1/2 10:45:36
     This is interesting but it does get old at some point - Genco98 MU - 1/2 09:55:10
          It never gets old laughing at the Big 12. - AllThingsKC KC - 1/2 10:05:59
               WADR, that is revisionist history and that’ s a polite way - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 1/2 10:33:55
                    Ummm, I'd say the Big 12 or someone screwed us when... - Deputy Dawg MU - 1/2 11:22:00
                         Yes, an argument can be made that happened. There were - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 1/2 13:21:35
                    💧 💧 💧 💧 You're not at all boring & one-note, drippy 💧 💧 💧 💧 - Gary P. MU - 1/2 10:56:43
                         Thank you for your "enlightened" post - nm - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 1/2 13:05:33
                    How Mizzou was relegated to lesser bowls for years - SSN 780 MU - 1/2 10:44:15
                         The big 12 sold the , for lack of a better term, - justwinbaby KC - 1/2 11:18:30
                    Answer me this. - AllThingsKC KC - 1/2 10:40:39
                         None of those are relevant to you initial post - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 1/2 10:47:29
                              What was factually wrong about what he said? - XRob MU - 1/2 12:24:08
                              💧 W A D R 💧 W A D R 💧 W A D R 💧 W A D R 💧 W A D R 💧 - Gary P. MU - 1/2 11:02:48
                                   Obviously creativity is not your strong suit. - nm - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 1/2 13:26:43
                              This Big 12 didn't treat Mizzou badly for years - AllThingsKC KC - 1/2 10:51:35
                                   Cite examples other than the KU Orange Bowl deal - nm - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 1/2 13:25:08




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