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Posted on: January 2, 2020 at 11:58:46 CT

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as missouri does in the sec, perhaps less. the b12 is unsettled and lives at the discretion of texas. keep them happy with things like the lhn and bowl placements and everyone benefits. kinda like the queen bee and the workers in some ways. it's been that way since jon wefald - then k-state president - put the league together with texas, and it's not going to change unless the total landscape of college sports realigns.

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Big 12 Bowl summary - record 1 win, 5 losses (.167) - TigerJackSwartz MU

- 1/2 09:35:18

meanwhile Mizzou would not have competed in the Big 12 - Iam4Mizzou MU

- 1/2 12:45:52

They dish-ragged Big 12 opponent West Virginia. (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 1/2 14:24:35

Yeah, that's not true - JimD MU - 1/2 13:25:27

Ehhhhhhh disagree (nm) - Da_Haze KC - 1/2 13:09:16

schadenfreude(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 11:40:12

how hot was it in Memphis on Tuesday?(nm) - dangertim MU

- 1/2 12:55:08

great game and the reason bowls make sense ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:56:41

answer the question(nm) - dangertim MU

- 1/2 13:03:02

50's - great football weather and great game(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:04:10

you lost AND it wasn't hot? - dangertim MU

- 1/2 13:04:50

what? k-state had tons of fans ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:07:20

Tons of fans, but not very many(nm) - Shu MU - 1/2 13:49:29

LOL - Gary P. MU - 1/2 17:50:34

Well done Shu! (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 1/2 14:25:38

they went to the game they cared about(nm) - dangertim MU

- 1/2 13:41:58

Lol(nm) - TheWildcat MU

- 1/2 13:21:33

There's 15 - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 1/2 12:53:22

facts (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU

- 1/2 12:14:01

clearly, facts you take pleasure in ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:21:20

Hey...you stupid dumb*ss! You are on an SEC board! Get - ROLLATIGER MU - 1/2 13:00:49

RE: clearly, facts you take pleasure in ... - dangertim MU

- 1/2 12:59:47

you're projecting. I mean who still comes to an SEC board? - TigerJackSwartz MU

- 1/2 12:50:56

i comment on b12 related matters ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:53:34

You're a pathetic LYING LIAR: - Gary P. MU - 1/2 13:00:35

more caps will help make your point(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:01:58

you initiate threads. You lied when you left - TigerJackSwartz MU

- 1/2 12:55:29

once in awhile i'll ask a question, yes(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:58:01

You're lying once again; purple grapes were never a rival - Gary P. MU - 1/2 12:33:23

Bob's an old politician. If his lips are moving - TigerJackSwartz MU

- 1/2 12:54:33

don't you have to go flip hamburgers soon?(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:58:37

I'd take being a hamburger flipper over being a scummy - TigerJackSwartz MU

- 1/2 13:12:34

Question: - AllThingsKC KC - 1/2 11:43:20

i believe it would be better if the conference ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 11:45:38

So then why do K-State fans tolerate this? - AllThingsKC KC - 1/2 11:49:41

k-state has as much power in this conference ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 11:58:46

No, K-State has much less power - JimD MU - 1/2 12:48:26

yes, if texas is happy that is good for k-state ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:49:32

That's just sad. Being held hostage isn't a win-win - JimD MU - 1/2 13:24:15

What are you not admitting to? - Genco98 MU - 1/2 13:06:10

i'm not admitting to anything ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:08:32

Isn't that what they want you to admit and you've - Genco98 MU - 1/2 13:11:53

some of these guys are petty others slow(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:33:07

You make a declaration & promptly go about shooting holes in - Gary P. MU - 1/2 12:20:45

what the hell?(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:22:27

Here, you lying POS: - Gary P. MU - 1/2 12:29:36

go away if you don't want to have a reasoned discussion(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:30:52

1) Mizzou board you so dramatically left. 2) You lied - Gary P. MU - 1/2 12:36:37

please, go to another topic for your sophomoric nonsense(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:38:36

If you can't rebut that fact that you are demonstrated, - TigerJackSwartz MU

- 1/2 12:59:46

sophomoric ^^^ and that's being unkind to sophomores(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:01:11

I can translate this. - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:01:18

your little attempted diatribes are funny(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:04:19

You are a lying POS. It's what you do here - Gary P. MU - 1/2 12:28:53

brilliant ^^^ you on missouri's debate team?(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:31:50

When you can't respond; deflect (LIE) - Gary P. MU - 1/2 12:37:35

please stop(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:39:02

⬆️ Witness ⤴️ - Gary P. MU - 1/2 12:53:45

Here is another translation for you - STRIPES

- 1/2 12:15:44

You've come a long way in admitting your position - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:15:11

that's a false narrative promulgated by former rivals ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:18:10

You were never a rival. Simply an embarrassing nuisance. - Gary P. MU - 1/2 12:30:59

i think jack hartman, bill snyder, gary pinkel, and norm ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:33:00

You're a senile LIAR. Leave as promised, LIAR (nm) - Gary P. MU - 1/2 12:38:27

well, you're probably half right as i just had that birthday - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:39:35

But is that truly good for the conference. If there is - Me?Justafan MU - 1/2 12:24:50

there's a ton of money to share ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:30:00

The gap is getting wider every year. - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:39:50

there's no question that revenue expansion ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:41:35

So why do you always play dumb and talk profits instead - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:46:53

um, i don't believe that is correct ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:48:22

I didn't say that nor did I insinuate that. - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:51:29

you saying miz is successful on the athletic field, really?(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:55:14

I didn't say that either. Sometimes I think you're - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:56:49

what you wrote: - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:59:28

What I didn't write: - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 13:07:12

that is a totally false statement ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:09:50

I was being nice for a while because you were actually - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 13:12:57

miz has been on a downward path since sec(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:36:42

No it hasn't. - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 13:48:04

do you disagree with this? Do you not understand what - lqf2b8 MU

- 1/2 13:02:55

He very clearly doesn't even have a basic grasp on - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 13:13:29

increased revenue does not = successful football/hoops(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:03:39

agreed but is there a correlation as was stated(nm) - lqf2b8 MU

- 1/2 14:44:44

Compared to the B1G and soon to be the SEC? B1G and SEC are - Me?Justafan MU - 1/2 12:33:25

could be and that could change the dynamics ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:37:42

...and the next school is 33 - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:41:52

and MU for all its problems is still bringing in more than - Me?Justafan MU - 1/2 12:46:28

ku football is a burden(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:47:14

yet....they lap KSU in revenue. - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 13:00:38

actually, their big money is from contributions ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:02:41

Sure, that's a big part of it too. - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 13:14:43

your last sentence is high irony(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:43:00

I never said it would happen this year or next. - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:45:22

if missouri didn't leave the b12 would be stable today(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:46:12

good grief you are a phucking idiot - TigerJackSwartz MU

- 1/2 13:57:29

No it wouldn't. - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:49:58

this is a discussion without merit ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:51:38

What you're unwilling to admit is the reason for the - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:54:29

i've said many times if missouri i'd have done the same(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:00:16

and the vast majority of people associated with the Big XII - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 13:10:19

Because they play by different rules, LIAR. GTFO (nm) - Gary P. MU - 1/2 12:39:29

Yes it will. But as long as the other 9 members don't have - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:26:49

not sure there are good options for any of the members ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:35:32

Texas will give up the lhn if and when it makes financial - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:38:03

so would missouri, right?(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:40:30

Missouri would jump to the Big 10? - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:43:17

Not anymore. nm, - Me?Justafan MU - 1/2 12:42:19

umm, we really don't know that ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:44:04

No they're not. They have support of the Commissioner in - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 12:52:44

yes, i've read some really hurtful comments(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:05:13

don't belong - best of bad choices ... - tmcats KSU - 1/2 13:06:12

Let me explain something to you. Absolutely NO school - kmawv8 MU - 1/2 13:09:31

We would be worse off than kNowledge U. That dries up - Me?Justafan MU - 1/2 12:50:26

no - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 1/2 12:45:38

liar (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU

- 1/2 12:21:15

see, there you go again, little man(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:22:50

Is he wrong? You lied & are still here, DramaB!tch (nm) - Gary P. MU - 1/2 12:40:57

he and you are just trying to ruin a discussion(nm) - tmcats KSU - 1/2 12:42:09

I sort of wish we were still in the B12 ... - Gamagrass MU - 1/2 10:20:01

A school like Missouri - Tigerfish MU - 1/2 13:27:43

that's kietzman logic. - dangertim MU

- 1/2 13:02:21

I wish we were still in the Big 8................. - MNTIGER MU - 1/2 12:59:32

Big12 future is dependent on UT/OU. Either leaves it's over(nm) - miz_zou MU - 1/2 11:34:32

RE: What Jon Sunvold said - 1sg MU - 1/2 11:28:40

I bet his dumb, fired a$$ loved hearing that (nm) - Gary P. MU - 1/2 11:49:18

Boy I would have love to have heard Kietzman's response - Genco98 MU - 1/2 11:40:31

RE: Boy I would have love to have heard Kietzman's response - 1sg MU - 1/2 13:51:10

The local media here in St. Louis hated the Big 12 - Genco98 MU - 1/2 11:16:16

It's the Southwest Conference 2.0 - Guinny_Ire MU - 1/2 14:38:22

Gotta be serious when an SEC member...otherwise - Turn2 MU - 1/2 11:13:01

I like football road trips. And Big 12 roadies are putrid - TigerJackSwartz MU

- 1/2 10:49:27

The stability is the key - Genco98 MU - 1/2 11:25:50

I think the SEC is so much more fun especially now that we - cruiser MU - 1/2 10:45:41

RE: I sort of wish we were still in the B12 ... - SEMO_Hillbilly UMKC - 1/2 10:45:36

This is interesting but it does get old at some point - Genco98 MU - 1/2 09:55:10

It never gets old laughing at the Big 12. - AllThingsKC KC - 1/2 10:05:59

WADR, that is revisionist history and that’ s a polite way - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 1/2 10:33:55

Ummm, I'd say the Big 12 or someone screwed us when... - Deputy Dawg MU - 1/2 11:22:00

Yes, an argument can be made that happened. There were - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 1/2 13:21:35

💧 💧 💧 💧 You're not at all boring & one-note, drippy 💧 💧 💧 💧 - Gary P. MU - 1/2 10:56:43

Thank you for your "enlightened" post - nm - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 1/2 13:05:33

How Mizzou was relegated to lesser bowls for years - SSN 780 MU - 1/2 10:44:15

The big 12 sold the , for lack of a better term, - justwinbaby KC - 1/2 11:18:30

Answer me this. - AllThingsKC KC - 1/2 10:40:39

None of those are relevant to you initial post - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 1/2 10:47:29

What was factually wrong about what he said? - XRob MU

- 1/2 12:24:08

💧 W A D R 💧 W A D R 💧 W A D R 💧 W A D R 💧 W A D R 💧 - Gary P. MU - 1/2 11:02:48

Obviously creativity is not your strong suit. - nm - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 1/2 13:26:43

This Big 12 didn't treat Mizzou badly for years - AllThingsKC KC - 1/2 10:51:35

Cite examples other than the KU Orange Bowl deal - nm - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 1/2 13:25:08

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