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So your solution is to starve the beast?

Posted on: December 6, 2019 at 16:10:24 CT
Da_Haze KC
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Sounds good, until you realize the only people who will starve are folks like you and me, taxes or no.

Let's say you got your wish, POOF, no taxes. Do you think your boss is going to give you a raise now? Do you think your quality of life is going to drastically change over a few thousand bucks a year?

Nope, you'd still make the same amount of money, you'd be buying the same class of car, your kids would go to the same class of school.

Meanwhile folks on the street are extremely desperate because some of them are going to starve to death, they rely on government programs to help them. So what choice do they have now? Desperate people do desperate things and there are suddenly MILLIONS of desperate people.

Cut corporate welfare, tax the mcdonalds, and the walmart's for every single employee they have that mooches off the government because they don't pay living wages.

We subsidize these businesses by paying for their employees, the same employees that make so little that they have to then shop at their employer because they can't afford anything else. It's a never ending cycle.

Perhaps if we never had this stupid ****ing never ending war on terror that cost this country trillions, we could have actually used that money to make a system that WORKS. Slash the ever growing budget of the pentagon.
Perhaps if we use tax money better and more efficiently... nah that's all crazy talk.

Edited by Da_Haze at 18:27:55 on 12/06/19
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Medicare for All - ummmm MU - 12/6 15:07:31
     Don't know stats now, but for years Medicare had by far the - raskolnikov MU - 12/6 16:11:39
          Yeah, those stats have been debunked, including on here - ummmm MU - 12/6 16:23:11
     now do defense spending (nm) - Hamdogg KC - 12/6 15:20:27
          Cut it all - Sal MU - 12/6 15:44:02
          You're right. Apply it to both. (nm) - ummmm MU - 12/6 15:21:47
               if you are going to take my money I would rather you give - Hamdogg KC - 12/6 15:26:21
                    why is it binary choice and why can't you just address the - 90Tiger STL - 12/6 17:00:09
                    Give it to your neighbor your own damn self - Sal MU - 12/6 15:44:40
                    Or, you could just cut the gubmit out of it and - Newcatbirdseat MU - 12/6 15:30:03
                         cool, so you are going to eliminate all taxes? Sounds great - Hamdogg KC - 12/6 15:31:57
                              That's the plan. You on board? (nm) - ummmm MU - 12/6 15:40:41
                                   Who needs roads... - Da_Haze KC - 12/6 15:46:55
                                        Roads are not magically created by the govt. - ummmm MU - 12/6 15:53:43
                                             Think about this... Do you really want to pay for every - Da_Haze KC - 12/6 16:15:23
                                                  yes. do you want to pay for every beer you order or just - 90Tiger STL - 12/6 17:01:02
                                                  The beauty of the free market - pickle MU - 12/6 16:26:17
                                                       Sweet so the free market would allow multiple roads to - Da_Haze KC - 12/6 16:31:29
                                                            No, property owners would decided that - pickle MU - 12/6 16:44:54
                                                                 So what happens if I want my particular section - Da_Haze KC - 12/6 18:22:03
                                                                      Nice straw man (nm) - pickle MU - 12/6 19:19:10
                                                  Huh? I already pay for most roads that I drive on via - ummmm MU - 12/6 16:21:32
                                                       You guys are arguing eliminating ALL taxes - Da_Haze KC - 12/6 16:28:11
                                                            you have a very limited imagination - pickle MU - 12/6 16:46:15
                                                                 Why wouldn't there be - Da_Haze KC - 12/6 18:25:42
                                                                      Because there are myriad price and payment structures - pickle MU - 12/6 19:21:46
                                                            The elimination of the gas tax and general taxation does not - ummmm MU - 12/6 16:32:34
                                        This is where umm will reply something to the effect of - MrBlueSky MU - 12/6 15:47:56
                                             I wouldn't say that to Da_Haze based on his last post.(nm) - ummmm MU - 12/6 15:54:06
                                             I just don't get it... whatever happened to moderation - Da_Haze KC - 12/6 15:51:25
                                                  No (nm) - pickle MU - 12/6 16:18:42
                                                       Brilliant argument, impeccable research (nm) - Da_Haze KC - 12/6 18:19:50
                                                  Gov't never shrinks. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 12/6 15:55:49
                                                       So your solution is to starve the beast? - Da_Haze KC - 12/6 16:10:24
                                                  Why would we want to have bad and destructive things - ummmm MU - 12/6 15:54:57
                                   Grover Norquist is here (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 12/6 15:46:54
                    Better yet, you just keep your money and then can give - ummmm MU - 12/6 15:28:58
                         not saying you do. I'm tired of people acting like MFA - Hamdogg KC - 12/6 15:31:33
                              they are horrible (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/6 17:03:04
                              they are horrible socialism - pickle MU - 12/6 15:55:21
                              They are horrible socialism (nm) - Sal MU - 12/6 15:45:33
                                   You can't possibly know that. Universal healthcare has not - MrBlueSky MU - 12/6 15:48:40
                                        Have you solved the economic calculation problem? (nm) - pickle MU - 12/6 16:11:30
                                        We don't need universal healthcare to know - Sal MU - 12/6 15:51:30
                                             I guess that's why medicare and medicaid are overwhelmingly - MrBlueSky MU - 12/6 15:53:21
                                                  Maybe to recipients (nm) - ummmm MU - 12/6 15:56:40
                              Social welfare programs are horrible socialism - ummmm MU - 12/6 15:40:03




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